PPG Prediction

AustinFromUNT · August 3, 2017

I want to know how everyone thinks our offense and defense will do this season.

2015:

Our PPG: 15.2

Opponent PPG: 41.2

2016:

Our PPG: 24.8

Opponent PPG: 32.6

How do y'all think we'll do in 2017? My prediction:

Our PPG: 30.5

Opponent PPG: 28

greenminer · August 3, 2017

Our's: 86.7
Their's: 53.09

Edited August 3, 2017 by greenminer

AustinFromUNT · August 3, 2017

8 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Our's: 86.7
Their's: 53.09

Very precise, those are the figures I like to see.

MGNation92 · August 3, 2017

If we open up the playbook? I'd say 28 ppg

If all we run is swing passes and QB draws? 24.8 ppg

North Texas Shep · August 3, 2017

22 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:

If we open up the playbook? I'd say 28 ppg

If all we run is swing passes and QB draws? 24.8 ppg

Swing passes are the worst

GMG24 · August 3, 2017

54 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:

If we open up the playbook? I'd say 28 ppg

If all we run is swing passes and QB draws? 24.8 ppg

Hard to do that when you can't block the basic plays you have.

AustinFromUNT · August 3, 2017

3 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

Hard to do that when you can't block the basic plays you have.

Well it sounds like Littrell has slightly more faith in the OL this year so that's a plus.

Ben Gooding · August 3, 2017

10 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

Hard to do that when you can't block the basic plays you have.

Many, many sacks were on the shoulders of the QB himself. I think the increase of swing passes were dealt as an extension of the run game in passing situations due to having a true freshman QB having a difficult time reading defenses. Sure, the OL has to improve. But so does Fine.

GMG24 · August 3, 2017

1 minute ago, Ben Gooding said:

Many, many sacks were on the shoulders of the QB himself. I think the increase of swing passes were dealt as an extension of the run game in passing situations due to having a true freshman QB having a difficult time reading defenses. Sure, the OL has to improve. But so does Fine.

I'll disagree that many, many were but yes he absolutely held onto the ball too long at times. I'd guess 15-20% of sacks were on Fine.

Mean Green 93-98 · August 3, 2017

Offensive PPG: 28

Defensive PPG: 30

GMG24 · August 3, 2017

Offense 35

Defense 28

Ben Gooding · August 3, 2017

6 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

I'll disagree that many, many were but yes he absolutely held onto the ball too long at times. I'd guess 15-20% of sacks were on Fine.

And not just the sacks, but the ruining of plays because he's gotta break away from the line because of the breakdown of the pocket due to him chilling for 3 or 4 seconds. Those type plays also accumulated throughout the year.

I say 27ish on O. 25ish on D.

If we get 35 ppg we're doing big things this year.

Edited August 3, 2017 by Ben Gooding

AustinFromUNT · August 3, 2017

I do think we'll make more points than are scored against us. Whether that's due to a further improved offense or a lock down defense remains to be seen.

BTG_Fan1 · August 3, 2017

57 minutes ago, AustinFromUNT said:

Well it sounds like Littrell has slightly more faith in the OL this year so that's a plus.

He has to say that stuff.. they have had what, 3 practices since the CUSA meetings and he did was saying they needed to show a lot of improvement

UNT Mean Green · August 3, 2017

9 hours ago, GMG24 said:

Offense 35

Defense 28

In this range for sure.

TIgreen01 · August 3, 2017

10 hours ago, GMG24 said:

Offense 35

Defense 28

9 minutes ago, UNT Mean Green said:

In this range for sure.

That's essentially what ODU finished with last year. Their record was 10-3 and they were #2 in the standings (if you take out divisions). http://conferenceusa.com/stats.aspx?path=football&year=2016

If we make that big a jump we'll be competing for the conference title.

Mean_Green09 · August 3, 2017

Phil Steele has NT at

Offense 28.3

Defense 30.6

Yards

Offense 383.7

Defense 415.5

Pretty realistic expectations

oldguystudent · August 3, 2017

28 ppg from a nationally recognized offensive guru in the video game era of college football ain't gonna get it done.

Hope our defense is good again.

MeanGreenTexan · August 3, 2017

Offensively, I expect Littrell's trends to hold form & take a big step up this year. At least 5 more ppg.
Defensively, I worry about this retooled line & LB depth, but I hope to see a little improvement.

In my mind the Lamar & Iowa stats will offset each other. There are some pretty explosive C-USA offenses, and then there's Rice & UTEP (I know what UTEP did last year, but Jones is gone now).

Give me:
Offense: 29.9
Defense: 29.8

Aldo · August 3, 2017

O: 29 ppg

D: 32 ppg

Wag Tag · August 3, 2017

11 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

And not just the sacks, but the ruining of plays because he's gotta break away from the line because of the breakdown of the pocket due to him chilling for 3 or 4 seconds. Those type plays also accumulated throughout the year.

I say 27ish on O. 25ish on D.

If we get 35 ppg we're doing big things this year.

I agree with the throwing the ball away was an issue. As stated before his height is an issue as far as standing in the pocket and not being able to see the throwing lanes therefore holding onto the ball. I thought Graham coached like he had a 6'2" Qb. I hope see some growth in the OC and he adapts to the talent .on the field. Again slot play is critical for the quick passes along with some type of roll out. Fine could option on the roll out to throw or tuck it and run. Offense 30ppg D 27ppg GMG

Edited August 3, 2017 by Wag Tag

TreeFiddy · August 3, 2017

If are able to increase scoring to 28ppg and keep the opponents under 30ppg, that would put us in the top 70 of each category, which does not seem like an unrealistic ask and represents a small improvement for each side of the ball.

I will go with 28o and 29d. Scoring 28ppg in a supposed air raid offense should be a layup, but we haven't done it yet, so baby steps.

MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF · August 3, 2017

14 hours ago, MGNation92 said:

If we open up the playbook? I'd say 28 ppg

If all we run is swing passes and QB draws? 24.8 ppg

Same.

I'm going to guess we allow less than 28 per game on defense. Littrell hired more experienced guys to coach that side of the ball, so it should keep improving in increments.

1 hour ago, Wag Tag said:

I agree with the throwing the ball away was an issue. As stated before his height is an issue as far as standing in the pocket and not being able to see the throwing lanes therefore holding onto the ball. I thought Graham coached like he had a 6'2" Qb. I hope see some growth in the OC and he adapts to the talent .on the field. Again slot play is critical for the quick passes along with some type of roll out. Fine could option on the roll out to throw or tuck it and run. Offense 30ppg D 27ppg GMG

The other issues are timing, and as Littrell lamented a couple of weeks ago, the WRs fighting more to get open/consistently doing a better job in their routes. Fine doesn't have the luxury of being tall enough to see the whole field over the line. So, timing and route technique are very critical for us.