2017 Hall of Fame class announced

VideoEagle · July 28, 2017

I just saw this. I'll bet including Dickie is going to raise a few eyebrows here. That certainly would never have happened with RV here. I personally thing he should included.

http://www.meangreensports.com/sports/mg-club/spec-rel/072817aab.html

MeanGreenTexan · July 28, 2017

Wren's first class. Last year's class was announced under Hank's interim leadership.

Good call on the Lovelaces.

I like the inclusion of Dickey, and love Josh White's inclusion. Wasn't Wren at OSU when Josh went off on the Pokes in '07?

Harry · July 28, 2017

Finally DD gets what he deserved for a long time!! Very happy about this.

drex · July 28, 2017

Like him or hate him, Dickey put together an amazing bowl run.

Mean Green 93-98 · July 28, 2017

Yep. When you look at who else is in the HOF, Dickey is a no-brainer.

DeepGreen · July 28, 2017

Mattre$$ Mac will love this Hall of Fame addition.

Mean Green 93-98 · July 28, 2017

6 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

Mattre$$ Mac will love this Hall of Fame addition.

If it leads to him becoming a big-time donor to the program again, that would be a nice bonus.

jdennis82 · July 28, 2017

Death, Taxes, and Josh White free throws...

Excited for his induction (and the others' as well)

bstnsportsfan3 · July 28, 2017

Spent all 4 of my years at UNT watching Josh White lead our basketball team. Very excited for him!

greenjoe · July 28, 2017

Do you think Mattress Mac and DD are still the pals they were ?

Cerebus · July 28, 2017

2 hours ago, Harry said:

Finally DD gets what he deserved for a long time!!

Agree 100% with this. Glad the Buick is finally getting honored.

Cr1028 · July 28, 2017

I've said many negative things about Dickey in the past but I agree that he deserves a spot in our HOF.

GrandGreen · July 28, 2017

Only at NT would a terminated coach with a 42-64 record be included in the HOF. He had a great run in the Belt, but I don't know how any committee could overlook the things he said and the way he left the program.

I like the other inductees, White was definitely a gamer, and the other deserve the recognition.

Aldo · July 28, 2017

48 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Only at NT would a terminated coach with a 42-64 record be included in the HOF. He had a great run in the Belt, but I don't know how any committee could overlook the things he said and the way he left the program.

I like the other inductees, White was definitely a gamer, and the other deserve the recognition.

34-22 conference record*

4 straight bowl appearances

How many rushing champions?

How many HOF players?

Edited July 28, 2017 by Aldo
*29-11 Sun Belt record

Cooley · July 29, 2017

4 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Only at NT would a terminated coach with a 42-64 record be included in the HOF. He had a great run in the Belt, but I don't know how any committee could overlook the things he said and the way he left the program.

I like the other inductees, White was definitely a gamer, and the other deserve the recognition.

I couldn't agree more. It's really hard following this program

Cr1028 · July 29, 2017

6 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Only at NT would a terminated coach with a 42-64 record be included in the HOF. He had a great run in the Belt, but I don't know how any committee could overlook the things he said and the way he left the program.

I like the other inductees, White was definitely a gamer, and the other deserve the recognition.

1 hour ago, Cooley said:

I couldn't agree more. It's really hard following this program

If they put Andrew Smith in, Dickey is a no-brainer. I blame Hank for this.

oldguystudent · July 29, 2017

By this metric, I expect to see Johnny Jones inducted in the very near future.

untjim1995 · July 29, 2017

7 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Only at NT would a terminated coach with a 42-64 record be included in the HOF. He had a great run in the Belt, but I don't know how any committee could overlook the things he said and the way he left the program.

I like the other inductees, White was definitely a gamer, and the other deserve the recognition.

I agree on Dickey. He already has his name on practice fields that is due to being held hostage for a donation by a very disgruntled fan. He had three winning seasons in 9 tries. His personality was less charming than the Fouts piss wall. 42-64...I just don't think he should have a Hall of Fame entry and have the practice fields named after him. If for nothing else, maybe this will allow us to offer the naming rights up for bid again or name it after someone who actually won here, like, oh, I don't know, maybe somebody like Hayden Fry...before he dies, it might be nice to honor the best coach we ever had.

UNTLifer · July 29, 2017

I believe the opposite. Overall losing record is not HOF worthy.

GreenMachine · July 29, 2017

10 hours ago, Aldo said:

34-22 conference record*

4 straight bowl appearances

How many rushing champions?

How many HOF players?

Denton Guyer could have run rampant through the Sun Belt at the time. Weakest conference ever.

emmitt01 · July 29, 2017

5 hours ago, GreenMachine said:

Denton Guyer could have run rampant through the Sun Belt at the time. Weakest conference ever.

And yet only one team did.

I am constantly amused by the posts of "Brandon Kennedy was a beast" or "Jamario was amazing to watch" or "Scott Hall was a gamer" in one thread...and then the same people quickly turn to "the Sun Belt was the worst league ever" when talking about Dickey.

Which was it? Were these players amazing, or were they the recipients of playing the Denton High JV every week? Can't have it both ways.

GrandGreen · July 29, 2017

5 hours ago, GreenMachine said:

Denton Guyer could have run rampant through the Sun Belt at the time. Weakest conference ever.

I have always taken exception to the above opinion although I don't think Dickey should ever even been considered for the HOF. That winning streak was great and I don't care what conference it was in. I still wonder how that one class was put together that really was responsible for winning those four conference championships. The Belt was the weakest conference, but there are not many teams that have ever dominated a league like that.

The facts are that DD killed his own success with lazy recruiting and constant complaining about his situation at NT. Many defend him because he was right about many things he said about NT and it is now in retrospect recognized how weak RV was as an AD. The paradox is that DD comments about NT really did not apply to the early Belt where he found his only success. NT was among the most established programs and had about the highest budget throughout that 4 season run.

I am very disappointed with this selection to the HOF. The HOF has always been suspect with many selected who really were not that outstanding and others left out or delayed for decades after they should have been included. Now they have selected a coach with a questionable record that figuratively if not actually gave the finger to the University. Explain for example why DD was selected above Rod Rust, a better coach with a much better overall record. Most importantly Rust was a fine representative of the University, while Dickey was the direct opposite.

I have followed and supported the NT program for a lot of very lean years, and will continue. However, I can't remember anything other than the move to 1AA that has annoyed me as much as this selection to the HOF. Who makes these decisions, are they trying to destroy any credibility this award has?

GreenMachine · July 29, 2017

1 hour ago, emmitt01 said:

And yet only one team did.

I am constantly amused by the posts of "Brandon Kennedy was a beast" or "Jamario was amazing to watch" or "Scott Hall was a gamer" in one thread...and then the same people quickly turn to "the Sun Belt was the worst league ever" when talking about Dickey.

Which was it? Were these players amazing, or were they the recipients of playing the Denton High JV every week? Can't have it both ways.

Yes, you can have it both ways. Jamario was fun to watch in the weakest league ever. Scott Hall was a gamer in the weakest league ever. Brandon Kennedy was a beast in the weakest league ever. Not a hard concept to grasp.

GreenN'walinsVet · July 29, 2017

23 minutes ago, GreenMachine said:

Yes, you can have it both ways. Jamario was fun to watch in the weakest league ever. Scott Hall was a gamer in the weakest league ever. Brandon Kennedy was a beast in the weakest league ever. Not a hard concept to grasp.

yes, but your disclaimers are not used when talking about Jamario, Cobbs, Kennedy, Hall, Andrew Smith, Buckels, etc....It's ONLY used when talking about Dickey.

GreenMachine · July 29, 2017

Just now, GreenN'walinsVet said:

yes, but your disclaimers are not used when talking about Jamario, Cobbs, Kennedy, Hall, Andrew Smith, Buckels, etc....It's ONLY used when talking about Dickey.

Not sure whose disclaimers you are talking about. I have never claimed any of the 3 mentioned players were great or not. Only claimed it was my opinion that Dickey only won because we were in such a weak conference, nothing more and nothing less.