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5 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

Then I can't tie ASU's improved records and bowl wins to escorts services at ASU based on the 2011 season.  Come to think of it, is "escort services in the state of Arkansas" an oxymoron?

Escort service got the call and she is on the way! Bringing her own beer too!

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This is partly the result of a law suit by Houston Nutt.  He claims the university, the AD, and Freeze disparaged him by telling sports writers privately that most of the NCAA infractions happened during Nutt's tenure.  They FOI'd phone records looking for evidence of Bjork and Freeze were spreading this story.  Apparently, there was a non-disparagement clause in the resignation agreement.  Freeze just got caught incidentally.

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8 hours ago, MeanGreenTeeth said:

I bet if he was 10-3 last year instead of 5-7 it wouldn't have mattered how many escort services he called.

yeah....unless there were multiple calls....and they told him to stop and he didn't....maybe I could see firing him. I've read where it was called once. There must be more....

I would agree if he was competing for the SEC West crown, he wouldn't have been let go.

Seems like they wanted him gone anyway and they could save several million this way.

 

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6 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

yeah....unless there were multiple calls....and they told him to stop and he didn't....maybe I could see firing him. I've read where it was called once. There must be more....

It sounds like there were calls going back to when he was first hired so it's been going on his entire tenure there on a university paid phone. 

On a funny note, he had the opportunity to redact any personal phone calls from the report handed to Houston Nutt's lawyers and he failed to redact that one number.  He could have prevented this coming out but didn't.  Life lesson ... do stupid things you want to hide and you'll do more stupid things trying to cover it up. 

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Has anyone written a book yet called, "The Restless Penis:  How It Gets Men Of All Ages, Education Level, Income Level, And Social Status Into Trouble."

If not, Hugh Freeze should be considered to write the Forward.

It all goes back to The Ticket's Gordo and his constant referral to men getting into trouble over that one small part of the female anatomy.  If they would all just heed Roxette and listen to their hearts instead of their penises. 

In all seriousness, though, the denial from Hugh Freeze is the icing on the cake.  Losing a very public $5 million jobs to the inability to police up his penis, though, maybe denial is the first stage in admitting he has a problem. 

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3 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

Has anyone written a book yet called, "The Restless Penis:  How It Gets Men Of All Ages, Education Level, Income Level, And Social Status Into Trouble."

If not, Hugh Freeze should be considered to write the Forward.

It all goes back to The Ticket's Gordo and his constant referral to men getting into trouble over that one small part of the female anatomy.  If they would all just heed Roxette and listen to their hearts instead of their penises. 

In all seriousness, though, the denial from Hugh Freeze is the icing on the cake.  Losing a very public $5 million jobs to the inability to police up his penis, though, maybe denial is the first stage in admitting he has a problem. 

Although I truly believe Freeze is a sleazeball, I think the reality is that these calls were to get these escorts over to recruits. Hence, he made Ole Miss into an SEC recruiting juggernaut overnight. Whenever a terrible Power program comes out of nowhere to become a big winner in a fairly short amount of time, you can bet its due to cheating--Baylor and Ole Miss are the obvious two choices that fit this description.

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1 hour ago, untjim1995 said:

Although I truly believe Freeze is a sleazeball, I think the reality is that these calls were to get these escorts over to recruits. Hence, he made Ole Miss into an SEC recruiting juggernaut overnight. Whenever a terrible Power program comes out of nowhere to become a big winner in a fairly short amount of time, you can bet its due to cheating--Baylor and Ole Miss are the obvious two choices that fit this description.

Interesting that a lot of people share the same notion about UTSA's recent recruiting success

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My thoughts?
I'll give him a half point credit for using hookers instead of seducing chicks for fun and maybe causing them to think there might *love* involved. At least kept it a business transaction where everyone got a fair price.

He's a helluva coach I am not crazy about guys using their faith as part of their branding. I go to church, I send my church a check every payday, I volunteer, but I don't expect that to be on my performance evaluation at work. If you are at Liberty or Baylor, then it makes sense.

Now I drew up tight when the NCAA started crawling all over him and his assistants because nothing the NCAA enjoys more than knocking a little guy around. They started digging in 2012 and actually started over women's hoops. By December 2013 they had enough to chase Louisiana Lafayette over assistant David Saunders and that wrapped up January of 2016. Clock ran out on anything he did at AState on December 4, 2015, so they didn't find anything, but he came to AState in 2010 after signing day and his only class at AState was mostly guys Roberts had been recruiting. Wasn't a notable bunch, rated 4th in the Sun Belt and 102nd in the nation.

I was stunned when he had his superclass at Ole Miss because I hadn't seen any signs of him being a megarecruiter, I mean his starting QB at Ole Miss the first three years was a kid who quit at AState because he not only wasn't starting, he wasn't playing and got mad at then OC Freeze when Freeze shut him down when he claimed he was the best QB he had. I mean guys who are second best at AState aren't exactly the guys you expect to start 39 games in the SEC, Freeze wasn't at AState when either were recruited.

Terribly stupid way to embarrass your family and on top of that, everyone who took a job with him at Ole Miss will be on the chopping block come December, the kids who signed to play for him don't get that. Pretty much everyone who put faith in him loses because he liked hookers.

Now come 2021, I'll stand up and clap for him and the players who make it back when we honor the 10th anniversary of his team but beyond that it's his life to repair.

 

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

Kiffen will hire him as Co-Offensive Coordinator to work along side Little Briles.

Not a chance. Guarantee you Kiffin is thinking, have a good year and I can get the Ole Miss job or whatever decent P5 opens. He's not going to saddle himself with Freeze.

20 hours ago, Coach Bill Lewis said:

Matt Luke is the interim coach.  Looks like there was some new info revealed.  He should have stayed at Arky State!

 

Why should he have stayed at AState? Unless he went crazy with the money he has more banked than he would have made if he had stayed at AState.

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Anyone else see ol' Tommy Tuberville putting his two cents in on the Hugh Freeze deal?  Likely angling for the old job there where years ago he said they "have to carry him out of there in a pine box" a couple of days before he ditched them for the Auburn job.

Good ol' Tommy Tuberville.  Never met a program he couldn't leave...while promising to stay.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Arkstfan said:

My thoughts?
I'll give him a half point credit for using hookers instead of seducing chicks for fun and maybe causing them to think there might *love* involved. At least kept it a business transaction where everyone got a fair price.

He's a helluva coach I am not crazy about guys using their faith as part of their branding. I go to church, I send my church a check every payday, I volunteer, but I don't expect that to be on my performance evaluation at work. If you are at Liberty or Baylor, then it makes sense.

Now I drew up tight when the NCAA started crawling all over him and his assistants because nothing the NCAA enjoys more than knocking a little guy around. They started digging in 2012 and actually started over women's hoops. By December 2013 they had enough to chase Louisiana Lafayette over assistant David Saunders and that wrapped up January of 2016. Clock ran out on anything he did at AState on December 4, 2015, so they didn't find anything, but he came to AState in 2010 after signing day and his only class at AState was mostly guys Roberts had been recruiting. Wasn't a notable bunch, rated 4th in the Sun Belt and 102nd in the nation.

I was stunned when he had his superclass at Ole Miss because I hadn't seen any signs of him being a megarecruiter, I mean his starting QB at Ole Miss the first three years was a kid who quit at AState because he not only wasn't starting, he wasn't playing and got mad at then OC Freeze when Freeze shut him down when he claimed he was the best QB he had. I mean guys who are second best at AState aren't exactly the guys you expect to start 39 games in the SEC, Freeze wasn't at AState when either were recruited.

Terribly stupid way to embarrass your family and on top of that, everyone who took a job with him at Ole Miss will be on the chopping block come December, the kids who signed to play for him don't get that. Pretty much everyone who put faith in him loses because he liked hookers.

 

Not a chance. Guarantee you Kiffin is thinking, have a good year and I can get the Ole Miss job or whatever decent P5 opens. He's not going to saddle himself with Freeze.[\b]

Why should he have stayed at AState? Unless he went crazy with the money he has more banked than he would have made if he had stayed at AState.

It was a joke. 

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3 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

It was a joke. 

I do think once the NCAA rules on Freeze that if he isn't under a show cause someone is going to take him as an OC.

I just wonder if a show cause would only apply to coaching football.

When he coached Briarcrest Christian he won two state titles in football but coached the girls basketball team as well and won four state titles and made the state championship game seven straight years.

Could be a great women's basketball coach.

 

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