Cable TV is Dead

oldguystudent · June 22, 2017

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Cable is not dying. It’s dead. The cable box might as well be the landline phone...That spells trouble for college football.

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This article suggests an even further reduction of "Big Time" programs to a separate league of only 32 teams who only play each other with the little guys pretty much having nowhere left to go.

El Paso Eagle · June 22, 2017

In this plan you're going to have a lot of schools with sub 500 records. Not having the buffer of an easy preseason schedule to ensure six wins will have a lot of unhappy alumni seeing their teams with a crappy record

Edited June 22, 2017 by El Paso Eagle

oldguystudent · June 22, 2017

3 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

In this plan you're going to have a lot of schools with sub 500 records. Not having the buffer of an easy preseason schedule to ensure six wins will have a lot of unhappy alumni seeing their teams with a crappy record

I've been kinda wondering about that prospect as this all unfolds. There's a lot of ego in having outlandish winning records year in and year out even if they do come at the expense of Paraplegic University for the Mentally Incapacitated Blind.

Definitely makes it harder to get out that damn "SEC! SEC! SEC!" chant.

Then again, if you make the league exclusive enough, maybe that trumps the century of artificially inflated records.

untjim1995 · June 22, 2017

5 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

In this plan you're going to have a lot of schools with sub 500 records. Not having the buffer of an easy preseason schedule to ensure six wins will have a lot of unhappy alumni seeing their teams with a crappy record

The millions they get would probably comfort them during those trying times.

This needs to happen. Texas doesn't need to be playing North Texas, just like Tennessee doesn't need to play Middle Tennessee. The budget advantages and the other huge advantages these NFL-lite schools have should make them play each other only.

MeanGreen_MBA · June 22, 2017

32 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:

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This article suggests an even further reduction of "Big Time" programs to a separate league of only 32 teams who only play each other with the little guys pretty much having nowhere left to go.

that would get boring fast....not sure that model would work long term. Playing a different team every year adds to the experience...

El Paso Eagle · June 22, 2017

I'm not saying I'm against this and I do agree it would help to level the playing field somewhat. To be honest I think this breakup would probably benefit us if we were able to attach with other former P5 schools.

GreenMachine · June 22, 2017

19 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:

Paraplegic University for the Mentally Incapacitated Blind.

Their keg parties are da bomb!!

The cream will rise to the top (or buy themselves there) and the top 18 will get tired of the bottom 18 being dregs and will want to separate and become the super duper elite league.

oldguystudent · June 22, 2017

11 minutes ago, GreenMachine said:

Their keg parties are da bomb!!

The cream will rise to the top (or buy themselves there) and the top 18 will get tired of the bottom 18 being dregs and will want to separate and become the super duper elite league.

And eventually, it's nothing but a bunch of dudes in Alabama uniforms playing with themselves.

THOR · June 22, 2017

if they do something like this, a promotion/relegation style would be cool every year....worse 3 in the top are replaced by the top 3 from the other league

Ben Gooding · June 22, 2017

17 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:

And eventually, it's nothing but a bunch of dudes in Alabama uniforms playing with themselves.

Not sure I'd tune into this.

MeanGreenTexan · June 22, 2017

52 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I'm not saying I'm against this and I do agree it would help to level the playing field somewhat. To be honest I think this breakup would probably benefit us if we were able to attach with other former P5 schools.

What makes you think UNT is in a position to do this?

Ben Gooding · June 22, 2017

16 minutes ago, THOR said:

if they do something like this, a promotion/relegation style would be cool every year....worse 3 in the top are replaced by the top 3 from the other league

I've been advocating this with P5 and their geographical "sister" G5 conference, but just bottom team of P5 and top team of G5 switch the following year. Much like the Premier League. Greed from the individual P5 universities would blockade this notion almost immediately. It's a damn good solution to a ton of problems.

untjim1995 · June 22, 2017

1 hour ago, Ben Gooding said:

I've been advocating this with P5 and their geographical "sister" G5 conference, but just bottom team of P5 and top team of G5 switch the following year. Much like the Premier League. Greed from the individual P5 universities would blockade this notion almost immediately. It's a damn good solution to a ton of problems.

The top end of the P5s wouldn't care--its the bottom 20 that would $hit themselves over a plan like this.

Ben Gooding · June 22, 2017

9 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

The top end of the P5s wouldn't care--its the bottom 20 that would $hit themselves over a plan like this.

Absolutely they would. But it may improve the suckfest that is the bottom barrel of every P5 conference. And it would be a true fair playing field. I just find it funny that every company/organization wants to promote and advocate equality, fairness, etc. until if/when money gets involved. Then it's lock 'em out and throw away the key.

untjim1995 · June 22, 2017

1 minute ago, Ben Gooding said:

Absolutely they would. But it may improve the suckfest that is the bottom barrel of every P5 conference. And it would be a true fair playing field. I just find it funny that every company/organization wants to promote and advocate equality, fairness, etc. until if/when money gets involved. Then it's lock 'em out and throw away the key.

Historically speaking, the Baylors and Vanderbilt's of the world aren't going to let their position of Big Tick on the FBS Power Bloodhound just go away. They have the attorneys and $$$ to fight that.

One of my favorite examples of how bad this all had become was back in 2006. That year, TCU and Boise State were top ten teams and faced each other in the Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego, because that was where there conferences had made a deal to get them to play each other, TCU won a great game, 17-16, giving Boise State their first loss of the year, and it made both teams finish as Top 10 teams that season. Meanwhile, Baylor, before Briles and the rapists joined the program, were in the midst of their decade long existence as the Big XII's doormat, were again staying at home, having won no more than 2-3 games that season. When it was all said and done, Baylor made MORE MONEY from the Big XII's bowl teams than TCU and Boise State made COMBINED in bowl money.

Its why I'm thrilled to death for the Frogs. They were the Little Engine That Could, no matter what conference they were in after the SWC broke up and they began seriously funding their program for where THEY wanted it to be, not just based off their peers in the G5 leagues they were a member of. They worked hard for the money they now get and know that it could very well be short-lived when the Big XII goes away by 2025. I've always felt that they were the model we should have followed--fund the program above the peers, go west and play against teams people have heard of and care about, start winning big, and get local and national media attention. But the university and the fanbase here have never wanted this, so it is what it is.