IPF is happening

Mickey · March 30, 2017

What conference mates have an IPF? I don't recall one at Utsa, Rice or UTEP? So that does make it a game changer for us if that's true. SMU only has plans for one I think. La Tech I couldn't find one.

DeepGreen · March 30, 2017

Marshall and WKU?

trud1966 · March 30, 2017

On 3/28/2017 at 5:59 PM, BTG_Fan1 said:

Indoor Practice Facility..

Just improved recruiting, increased donor support, among other benefits

GMG24 · March 30, 2017

9 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

I understand that. My opinion is that for the investment, the usage is very low, but it is a necessary evil to remain competitive with "the Joneses."

You wanna win?

BTG_Fan1 · March 30, 2017

3 hours ago, Mickey said:

What conference mates have an IPF? I don't recall one at Utsa, Rice or UTEP? So that does make it a game changer for us if that's true. SMU only has plans for one I think. La Tech I couldn't find one.

Why would UTSA need an IPF when they play in one?

TheWestie · March 30, 2017

13 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

I like the fact that we used our familiarity with the hot weather to beat down Ball State a couple of years ago. Practicing in A/C for an outdoor sport is ridiculous. The sad thing is that this is what kids expect these days.

I used to think this way too until I actually stepped foot in a college indoor facility in August.

A lot of em ain't cool and comfy even with exhaust the fans goin'. But that's also not the point. Schools with indoor facilities still also use their outdoor practice fields to do stuff like acclimatize to extreme heat, and conversely to extreme cold.

Reasons to have an indoor facility in a place like Denton:

1. Provides a weather-is-not-a-factor practice area for multiple sports. It rains a lot in Denton, and lightnings and hails, and vicious wind. If the weather is crap and everybody is miserable, they don't practice well, they just wanna get it the hell over with and go home. This solves that situation and yes we've all seen what a difference one good or bad practice in a week can mean for Saturday. Soccer and softball can also use the place in those situations. Also, Green Brigade could potentially practice there in garbage weather.

2. If said crappy weather mucks up the practice field, you don't have to continue tearing it up or go tear up the competition turf in the stadium. You don't want to throw a tackling sled on the nice expensive turf in Apogee if the Dickey fields are muddy AF.

3. Provides a cheaper option for practicing later in the season when it gets dark at 5pm. Instead of using the Apogee and turning on the big field lights, you can use the indoor which isn't gonna spin the meter as fast.

4. It's just one more tool to use to try and convince a fickle-minded 18 year-old high school jock to come to UNT. It's a player ego-booster and a fan/alum/donor ego-booster.

5. In the future, once Jerry Jones dies (providing he doesn't find a way to become a cyborg) and the NFL collectively forgets the complete disaster that was the prep and execution for Super Bowl XLV and decides to gift AT&T Stadium with another Super Bowl, then UNT with it's D1 indoor facility can host the practices for one of the teams instead of freaking Highland Park HS. Same for big time soccer or any other number of things.

oldguystudent · March 30, 2017

Have they said what they're going to call it? Maybe the Dan McCarney Practice Turf that sits inside the Todd Dodge Indoor Practice Facility which rest atop the former Darrell Dickey Practice Fields?

NorthTexan95 · March 30, 2017

1 hour ago, oldguystudent said:

Have they said what they're going to call it? Maybe the Dan McCarney Practice Turf that sits inside the Todd Dodge Indoor Practice Facility which rest atop the former Darrell Dickey Practice Fields?

Gotta work RV in there somewhere.

oldguystudent · March 30, 2017

8 minutes ago, NorthTexan95 said:

Gotta work RV in there somewhere.

I've found myself getting pulled, prodded, provoked, and cajoled so hard on both sides of that issue, that it's better if I merely never mention it at all.

TreeFiddy · March 30, 2017

7 hours ago, BTG_Fan1 said:

Why would UTSA need an IPF when they play in one?

They will probably wait for Incarnate Word to build one and just use theirs.

NorthTexan95 · March 30, 2017

7 hours ago, BTG_Fan1 said:

Why would UTSA need an IPF when they play in one?

The Alamodome is not near the school and requires going through a lot of traffic to get there. It would be like us using an IPF in Lewisville for practice.

Eagle-96 · March 30, 2017

3 hours ago, oldguystudent said:

Have they said what they're going to call it? Maybe the Dan McCarney Practice Turf that sits inside the Todd Dodge Indoor Practice Facility which rest atop the former Darrell Dickey Practice Fields?

I know naming rights are important and bring in much needed revenue to a school that really needs all the money it can get it's hands on. I wouldn't mind seeing it named the Haynes-King Indoor Practice Facility.

Wag Tag · March 30, 2017

4 minutes ago, Eagle-96 said:

I know naming rights are important and bring in much needed revenue to a school that really needs all the money it can get it's hands on. I wouldn't mind seeing it named the Haynes-King Indoor Practice Facility.

It will be named after to person or group with the most $$$$ donation! There will be a ton of naming opportunities at all levels. The IPF will be the biggie followed by the practice field. These will all be highly visible.

oldguystudent · March 30, 2017

36 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

It will be named after to person or group with the most $$$$ donation! There will be a ton of naming opportunities at all levels. The IPF will be the biggie followed by the practice field. These will all be highly visible.

I suggest we get the fund raiser started right now so that we can name it the " @THOR gets no cheesecake" indoor practice facility.

MeanGreenTexan · March 30, 2017

40 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:

I suggest we get the fund raiser started right now so that we can name it the " @THOR gets no cheesecake" indoor practice facility.

I vote for "UNT90 Banner Fieldhouse". Not gonna @ him.

THOR · March 30, 2017

42 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:

I suggest we get the fund raiser started right now so that we can name it the " @THOR gets no cheesecake" indoor practice facility.

the cheesecake was the best thing about the club...wish they sold some of that to us peasants in the cheap seats...

UNTLifer · March 30, 2017

12 hours ago, GMG24 said:

You wanna win?

Yes. Does having an IPF equate to wins?

12 hours ago, GMG24 said:

You wanna win?

Just glad you aren't yelling at me again. :)

GMG24 · March 30, 2017

11 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Yes. Does having an IPF equate to wins?

Just glad you aren't yelling at me again. :)

lol I think it is. If it gains you a practice it helps win games

GreenMachine · March 30, 2017

5 hours ago, Eagle-96 said:

I know naming rights are important and bring in much needed revenue to a school that really needs all the money it can get it's hands on. I wouldn't mind seeing it named the Haynes-King Indoor Practice Facility.

Greenmachine IPF at Greenmachine Stadium at The Greenmachine University. Sounds perfect!

TheWestie · April 3, 2017

The Jim McIngvale "Never on Back-Back-Backorder, Saves You Money Today!" Indoor Practice and Couch Financing Facility.

Edited April 3, 2017 by TheWestie

outoftown · April 3, 2017

I guess this could be overall a good thing... provided the prize tag is not completely out there and how it is financed. Could it be, that this is essentially financed via a new credit and the interest for it paid by student fee (really just speculating here). Is this thing cheap enough that it can be donor financed? How much are we looking at? By when will it be there in actuality.

I think before these details are out, there is no really knowing if this is a good investment or not. In order to have success UNT does need to invest, but it needs to do so wisely and with enough donors engaged in a sustainable way.

GrayEagle · April 3, 2017

1 hour ago, outoftown said:

I guess this could be overall a good thing... provided the prize tag is not completely out there and how it is financed. Could it be, that this is essentially financed via a new credit and the interest for it paid by student fee (really just speculating here). Is this thing cheap enough that it can be donor financed? How much are we looking at? By when will it be there in actuality.

I think before these details are out, there is no really knowing if this is a good investment or not. In order to have success UNT does need to invest, but it needs to do so wisely and with enough donors engaged in a sustainable way.

I have no information on this nor do know the MO of Wren Baker when it comes to raising funds for projects. I only know what past ADs have done at the insistence of administrations in the past. Until you have approximately 55% or more pledged, do not go public with your proposal. If that's the case, then there is at least one large benefactor willing to give a large portion of the cost to build the IPF.

Hopefully, there is no thought of going to the students to raise the athletic fee to finance this. There is no guarantee that the increase would pass and that would be disastrous should that fail. I know that Baker and Mosley are much more adept at raising funds than our former AD so I'm hoping that a large donor (or donors) is/are willing to underwrite any shortcomings to obtain the needed capital for completion of the facility.

UNT Mean Green · April 3, 2017

26 minutes ago, GrayEagle said:

I have no information on this nor do know the MO of Wren Baker when it comes to raising funds for projects. I only know what past ADs have done at the insistence of administrations in the past. Until you have approximately 55% or more pledged, do not go public with your proposal. If that's the case, then there is at least one large benefactor willing to give a large portion of the cost to build the IPF.

Hopefully, there is no thought of going to the students to raise the athletic fee to finance this. There is no guarantee that the increase would pass and that would be disastrous should that fail. I know that Baker and Mosley are much more adept at raising funds than our former AD so I'm hoping that a large donor (or donors) is/are willing to underwrite any shortcomings to obtain the needed capital for completion of the facility.

Get 50% - 55% of the project cost raised through the athletic department (via donors) and the university is likely to "match". It will take a pool of around 3-5 key donors to help kick start the campaign. Obviously, the scope of work will dictate the funds needed. IPF should be in the $15M range and the Operations Expansion/Renovation should be near that as well. Depending on fundraising, this could be a single phase or two phase campaign.

TheWestie · April 6, 2017

If we're talking about building an indoor facility and hanging with the big boys, then it means it should be paid for like the big boys. With a big-ass gift. No student fee BS, no 50-50 matching crapola: big gift in exchange for a name. Like the "Brint Ryan Family Indoor Practice Facility".