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Yep, and thanks. So, are MSU and UTSA the only 2 ranked opponents we’ve ever beaten? I can’t find a good resource for that info but did hear it announced during the Army game. If so, that’s even more pathetic than I first thought: one win was via forfeit and the other was against a startup program.

Agreed. Similar case can be made for Simon, as he coached in the first few years of our return to D1 when half our games were body bag games. And the guys preceding him were playing D-2 schedules. But, the point is we are historically a really bad program no matter who is coaching, which conference, classification or stadium we’re playing in. Any time a UNT coach has success, we worry he will use as a stepping stone to a better program. We should be so lucky. Hugh Freeze, Mario Cristobal, Lane Kiffin are three former conference opponent coaches that immediately come to mind, now coaching P5 schools.

As someone who both hires and fires people, and who has had to tell people “sorry, but you just don’t meet our standard”, I cut Jared Mosley a little slack…until the season has ended. There can be times you know a change needs to be made but, for a myriad of reasons, you choose no comment over good or bad comments and you discreetly do what needs to be done. It isn’t flashy and doesn’t garner the headlines of a hardline “we DEMAND better!” statement, but the job gets done nonetheless. I agree that E. Morris is in well above his head, and beating ECU and a floundering Temple team won’t change that, but I can stomach a change being made at season’s end.

Stone game has not gotten better and when he is on the floor, its 4 vs 5

The lost last year to FIU was enough for me to know this coach wasn't going to elevate the program.... We will be the weakness bowl team to get in....and I mean if we get in