I know that it isn't on anyone's radar...

golfingomez · March 21, 2017

But i have been looking at this box score for a while and just find it fascinating. Baylor set the record with the largest win. but so many stats in here are great.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400946557

MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF · March 21, 2017

Women's athletics are horrible when it comes to mismatches. It's difficult enough watching the slower pace of basketball after being accustomed to watching NBA and Division I men's. This type of stuff is just pointless.

Hopefully, they ran clock in the second half. When you're up 61-13 at half and 93-24 after three quarters...what, really, is the point of continuing the game?

TreeFiddy · March 21, 2017

Luckily, the men don't suffer from this same issue. For example, getting out gained 298 yards to 12 at half time:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/playbyplay?gameId=400868994

Matt from A700 · March 21, 2017

On 3/21/2017 at 11:06 AM, MeanGreenMailbox said:

Women's athletics are horrible when it comes to mismatches. It's difficult enough watching the slower pace of basketball after being accustomed to watching NBA and Division I men's. This type of stuff is just pointless.

Hopefully, they ran clock in the second half. When you're up 61-13 at half and 93-24 after three quarters...what, really, is the point of continuing the game?

I'm not a big fan of dynasties. I'm really tired of UConn and I don't think their dominance is good for the growth of the sport. I don't know for sure but there are so many mismatches in the first two rounds that that must be why they have games played at the higher seeds' arenas and not neutral sites to drive attendance.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Matt from A700

greenminer · March 21, 2017

50 minutes ago, Matt from A700 said:

I'm not a big fan of dynasties. I'm really tired of UConn and I don't think they're dominance is good for the growth of the sport. I don't know for sure but there are so many mismatches in the first two rounds that that must be why they have games played at the higher seeds' arenas and not neutral sites to drive attendance.

There is not as much parity in women's basketball. Once UCONN established itself, and Summit retired from Tennessee, this is the way I have seen it unfold:

UNCONN
----
Baylor
ND
Tennessee
-----
Everyone else

Not sure about that second tier. I've been out of touch for a couple seasons.

MeanGreen_MBA · March 21, 2017

there are fewer elite female athletes, so 1 team can load up and dominate...then that team can recruit off the success of the previous team. For men, there are a lot more "elite" athletes that can spread the wealth so to speak across many teams. Thus we get more parity from men's basketball as opposed to women's...

CMJ · March 21, 2017

Tennessee could at least challenge Connecticut up until Summit's final 2-3 years. Baylor had about a five year stretch where they did. No one else has consistently stood toe to toe with them since...1995?

Army of Dad · March 21, 2017

3 hours ago, greenminer said:

There is not as much parity in women's basketball. Once UCONN established itself, and Summit retired from Tennessee, this is the way I have seen it unfold:

UNCONN
----
Baylor
ND
Tennessee
-----
Everyone else

Not sure about that second tier. I've been out of touch for a couple seasons.

There are a couple of others that seem to kind of rotate in. Maybe Maryland, Oklahoma, A&M, and Stanford? I may be off on some of those though since I don't follow WBB close at all.

1 hour ago, MeanGreen_MBA said:

there are fewer elite female athletes, so 1 team can load up and dominate...then that team can recruit off the success of the previous team. For men, there are a lot more "elite" athletes that can spread the wealth so to speak across many teams. Thus we get more parity from men's basketball as opposed to women's...

Another factor is that I'm petty sure women get more scholarships per team than men(I think it's 15). A side affect of football having so many 'ships.

greenminer · March 22, 2017

1 hour ago, Army of Dad said:

Another factor is that I'm petty sure women get more scholarships per team than men(I think it's 15). A side affect of football having so many 'ships.

First I've ever heard this.

Matt from A700 · March 22, 2017

23 hours ago, greenminer said:

There is not as much parity in women's basketball. Once UCONN established itself, and Summit retired from Tennessee, this is the way I have seen it unfold:

UNCONN
----
Baylor
ND
Tennessee
-----
Everyone else

Not sure about that second tier. I've been out of touch for a couple seasons.

Hoping Baylor can put up a fight with the Lady Huskies this year. 109 or 110 or however many consecutive wins is impressive, but you also have to consider how terribly large the talent gap is in between them and the rest. Especially considering over 50 of those wins have been by more than 40 points. If Connecticut didn't already have a WNBA team, I would say they should just make this squad an expansion team.

greenminer · March 22, 2017

45 minutes ago, Matt from A700 said:

If Connecticut didn't already have a WNBA team, I would say they should just make this squad an expansion team.

The above statement comes up in some form or another every time we have any kind of college win streak.

This goes for any league, any sport: there is no college team in history that could compete with even the worst pro team in history. NBA, WNBA, or NFL squad.

Matt from A700 · March 23, 2017

5 hours ago, greenminer said:

The above statement comes up in some form or another every time we have any kind of college win streak.

This goes for any league, any sport: there is no college team in history that could compete with even the worst pro team in history. NBA, WNBA, or NFL squad.

I admittedly get annoyed with the Alabama v. Browns, Kentucky v. "Trust the Process" Sixers debates, but this UConn dynasty is one college sports dynasty we haven't seen in our lifetimes. Would they win the WNBA Finals? No. Could they compete in a 12-team league where eight make the playoffs? I think that's definitely an argument worth having.

greenminer · March 23, 2017

1 hour ago, Matt from A700 said:

No. Could they compete in a 12-team league where eight make the playoffs? I think that's definitely an argument worth having.

50 minutes ago, Matt from A700 said:

I'm waiting for the Big 12 to implode and then we tag along whatever conference Baylor, Tech, TCU, etc. form and then UNT is a dream job and we don't have to worry about our coaches being poached.

I'm starting to question your state of mind.

Arkstfan · March 23, 2017

I've never cared enough to verify it but I've heard the claim that UConn doesn't dominate the recruiting of high school all-Americans like say Kentucky but then again UConn isn't replacing most of its team every year like Kentucky

greenminer · March 23, 2017

2 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:

but this UConn dynasty is one college sports dynasty we haven't seen in our lifetimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_women's_soccer

Matt from A700 · March 23, 2017

2 hours ago, greenminer said:

I'm starting to question your state of mind.

I'm also waiting for Apogee to be expanded to 80,000 seats. I'm starting to worry why you aren't?

Army of Dad · March 23, 2017

18 hours ago, greenminer said:

The above statement comes up in some form or another every time we have any kind of college win streak.

This goes for any league, any sport: there is no college team in history that could compete with even the worst pro team in history. NBA, WNBA, or NFL squad.

If it is ever going to apply then it might for a women's team...

Edited March 23, 2017 by Army of Dad

Matt from A700 · March 23, 2017

1 hour ago, Army of Dad said:

If it is ever going to apply then it might for a women's team...

I am looking forward to Kelsey Plum, the NCAA's new all-time leading scorer, to give UConn a run for their money this year, though.

MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF · March 24, 2017

Domination always ends at some point. It does makes things very boring. As low as women's college basketball ratings are now, I can't imagine the lack of competitiveness is helping.

I feel bad for the UConn and Baylor gals, to a certain degree because they work hard to do what they do, but in the large sports-scheme of things, so few people care. It's like our soccer team here, if we bring it up as an example of good things happening in the athletic departments, we're immediately met with, "Meh...doesn't make us any money."

If it were a man's team winning 100 basketball games in a row, that's all you'd hear about, day after day, month after month, year after year. UConn dominates and its, "Eh, so what...they always do. It's just girls' basketball - what do you expect?"

I don't have any idea what the fix is for the imbalance in women's college basketball. I just know that watching Baylor or UConn pound school after school isn't that exciting. I think that at least back when UCLA had their dynasty, the scores were closer, the games more competitive.

For example, I think during the second year of their seven titles run, Drake almost knocked off the Bruins in the final four game. Score was like 85-82. Same in other years; UCLA was actually challenged many times during their streak, which made it all the more impressive.

How often are UConn and Baylor actually challenged during these tournaments? Not often.

So, unfortunately for the hard-working Husky and Bear gals, it's just not that interesting to watch.