Early names for UNT BB Job

[Harry]

 

[forevereagle]

Isn't this the same org that report Ray Harper a done deal? Just curious as to why his name isn't in this tweet.

[UNTFan23]

Call me suspicious but these are all names that have been brought up here on this message board at one point or another.

[greenminer]

37 minutes ago, forevereagle said:

Isn't this the same org that report Ray Harper a done deal? Just curious as to why his name isn't in this tweet.

 

[forevereagle]

2 minutes ago, greenminer said:

 

Right, but these other names are rumors as well. So why not mention the old rumor alongside the new rumors?

[TheTastyGreek]

Guys, enough with this twitter account.

Andy Katz, Jeff Goodman, Vito? Rumor away. This other crap is meaningless.

 

[UNT Five&Dime]

Read the dates of the tweets, morons.

[Andrew]

Franschilla, Cross, Harper, and Lutz in that order. Any of those four could easily recruit to UNT and turn this around quickly. 

[UNTLifer]

2 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Franschilla, Cross, Harper, and Lutz in that order. Any of those four could easily recruit to UNT and turn this around quickly. 

What tells you Lutz could turn it around?

[Mean Green 93-98]

26 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Franschilla, Cross, Harper, and Lutz in that order. Any of those four could easily recruit to UNT and turn this around quickly. 

Fraschilla has been out of coaching a looong time now.  There would be nothing certain with him now.

Edited March 10, 2017 by Mean Green 93-98

[Andrew]

51 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

Fraschilla has been out of coaching a looong time now.  There would be nothing certain with him now.

He is still a student of the game and hasn't lost his X's and O's. He lives locally, is well know, and respected. I believe he would be able to recruit the DFW area well. We need someone like they if we are going to compete with SMU  for local talent. Everyone on my list obviously has pros and cons but I think he could hit the DFW area hard and actually developed his guys which Benford wasn't able to do. This would also depend on his assistants. 

[untjim1995]

Fran Fraschilla just re-upped with ESPN for four more years....

[Andrew]

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

What tells you Lutz could turn it around?

So with this one it could go really well or reall bad fast. We took Benford who was a long time assistant and he ran a great team into the ground. I know there is concern about bringing an assistant in, but I remember many people supporting the Benford hire (even though he may not have been their first choice). Lutz brings what Benford had. Lots of experience from a well know basketball school. He can recruit and he is relatively young. Lutz can definetly recruit this area. He had two top 35 recruiting classes at SMU. His time at SFA and SMU show he can recruit texas, locally, and well. Maybe he ends up being Benford 2.0 or maybe he doesn't make the same mistakes Benford made and turns this thing around. In short he has all the positives people saw in Benford but I don't believe he would make the same micromanaging mistakes.

[Mean Green 93-98]

19 minutes ago, Andrew said:

He is still a student of the game and hasn't lost his X's and O's. He lives locally, is well know, and respected. I believe he would be able to recruit the DFW area well. We need someone like they if we are going to compete with SMU  for local talent. Everyone on my list obviously has pros and cons but I think he could hit the DFW area hard and actually developed his guys which Benford wasn't able to do. This would also depend on his assistants. 

I don't really disagree with any of that.  But how many coaches do you know who have been out of coaching for 15 years, come back to take on a rebuilding process, and had success?  And it's not like he had a long, illustrious head coaching career before that.  I'm sure a lot of players would be very interested in playing for him, but you take on a certain risk by taking on the unknown.

[Wag Tag]

I like a lot of the candidates, but as in football I think we need to really step up  the Assistant pool with $$$!

Edited March 10, 2017 by Wag Tag

[UNTLifer]

2 hours ago, Andrew said:

So with this one it could go really well or reall bad fast. We took Benford who was a long time assistant and he ran a great team into the ground. I know there is concern about bringing an assistant in, but I remember many people supporting the Benford hire (even though he may not have been their first choice). Lutz brings what Benford had. Lots of experience from a well know basketball school. He can recruit and he is relatively young. Lutz can definetly recruit this area. He had two top 35 recruiting classes at SMU. His time at SFA and SMU show he can recruit texas, locally, and well. Maybe he ends up being Benford 2.0 or maybe he doesn't make the same mistakes Benford made and turns this thing around. In short he has all the positives people saw in Benford but I don't believe he would make the same micromanaging mistakes.

Honestly, Lutz could be a home run hire, but the Benford experiment has me gun shy over hiring another assistant that is a great recruiter that has never led a program.  I know that isn't fair to Lutz, but Benford, who I thought would be a good hire, has ruined hiring from that direction for me.

[Andrew]

3 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Honestly, Lutz could be a home run hire, but the Benford experiment has me gun shy over hiring another assistant that is a great recruiter that has never led a program.  I know that isn't fair to Lutz, but Benford, who I thought would be a good hire, has ruined hiring from that direction for me.

Completely agree. 

[Got5onIt]

No more assistants. Hire a head coach with skins on the wall. Plenty at lower divisions chomping at the bit to get into D1 basketball in the heart of Texas...,

[DWayne47]

What about Mark Slessinger at New Orleans? He just won a regular season title and has his squad in the Southland title game. It must be terribly difficult to recruit there with LSU and Tulane, and he won a conference title at a program that almost dropped down to D-III before school administrators came to their senses.

[shootermcgavin44]

18 minutes ago, DWayne47 said:

What about Mark Slessinger at New Orleans? He just won a regular season title and has his squad in the Southland title game. It must be terribly difficult to recruit there with LSU and Tulane, and he won a conference title at a program that almost dropped down to D-III before school administrators came to their senses.

If the 22 more qualified applicants turn down the job, then for sure Wren should take a look at him. 

Just now, shootermcgavin44 said:

If the 22 more qualified applicants turn down the job, then for sure Wren should take a look at him. 

Season	Team	Overall	Conference	Standing	Postseason
New Orleans (Independent) (2011–2013)
2011–12	New Orleans	17–15
2012–13	New Orleans	8–18
New Orleans (Southland) (2013–present)
2013–14	New Orleans	11–15	8–10	8th
2014–15	New Orleans	11–18	6–12	T–10th
2015–16	New Orleans	10–20	6–12	T–9th
2016–17	New Orleans	15–9	10–3
New Orleans:		72–95 (.431)	30–37 (.448)
Total:		72–95 (.431)

 

Looks Great! 

[DWayne47]

Wow, that looks very similar to the first five years of J. Jones tenure at UNT.

2001-02	15-14	8-7	4th (West)
2002-03	7-21	2-13	6th (West)
2003-04	13-15	8-7	3rd (West)
2004-05	14-14	6-9	T4 (West)
2005-06	14-14	6-9	T4 (West)

2006-07

23-11

10-8

3rd (West)

[shootermcgavin44]

4 minutes ago, DWayne47 said:

Wow, that looks very similar to the first five years of J. Jones tenure at UNT.

2001-02	15-14	8-7	4th (West)
2002-03	7-21	2-13	6th (West)
2003-04	13-15	8-7	3rd (West)
2004-05	14-14	6-9	T4 (West)
2005-06	14-14	6-9	T4 (West)

2006-07

23-11

10-8

3rd (West)

96–97	Kentucky Wesleyan	21–8	14–6	5th
1997–98	Kentucky Wesleyan	30–3	17–2	1st	NCAA Division II runner-up
1998–99	Kentucky Wesleyan	35–2	20–2	1st	NCAA Division II Champion
1999–00	Kentucky Wesleyan	31–3	18–2	1st	NCAA Division II runner-up
2000–01	Kentucky Wesleyan	30–3	17–3	2nd	NCAA Division II Champion
2001–02	Kentucky Wesleyan	31–3	19–1	1st	NCAA Division II runner-up
2002–03	Kentucky Wesleyan	26–3*	18–2*	1st*	NCAA Division II runner-up*
2003–04	Kentucky Wesleyan	22–8*	14–6*	3rd*	NCAA Division II First Round*
2004–05	Kentucky Wesleyan	15–12	9–11	6th
Kentucky Wesleyan:		242–45* (.840)	146–35* (.807)
Oklahoma City Stars (Sooner Athletic Conference) (2005–2008)
2005–06	Oklahoma City	29–8	16–2	1st	NAIA runner-up
2006–07	Oklahoma City	35–2	17–1	1st	NAIA Champions
2007–08	Oklahoma City	31–7	18–4	1st	NAIA Champions
Oklahoma City:		95–17 (.848)	51–7 (.879)
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers (Sun Belt Conference) (2012–2014)
2011–12	Western Kentucky	11–8[9]	6–7[9]	3rd (East)[10]	NCAA 2nd Round[11]
2012–13	Western Kentucky	20–16	10–10	4th (East)[12]	NCAA 2nd Round[13]
2013–14	Western Kentucky	21–11	12–6	2nd
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers (Conference USA) (2014–present)
2014–15	Western Kentucky	20–12	12–6	T–4th
2015–16	Western Kentucky	18–16	8–10	8th
Western Kentucky:		90–63 (.588)	48–39 (.552)
Jacksonville State Gamecocks (Ohio Valley Conference) (2016–present)
2016–17	Jacksonville State	20–14	9–7	3rd (East)	NCAA Tournament

Ya.... Your guy isn't gonna get an interview..... 

Edited March 11, 2017 by shootermcgavin44

[All About UNT]

7 minutes ago, DWayne47 said:

Wow, that looks very similar to the first five years of J. Jones tenure at UNT.

2001-02	15-14	8-7	4th (West)
2002-03	7-21	2-13	6th (West)
2003-04	13-15	8-7	3rd (West)
2004-05	14-14	6-9	T4 (West)
2005-06	14-14	6-9	T4 (West)

2006-07

23-11

10-8

3rd (West)

which we all agree we can do better than right?