MGB: UNT offensive line outlook for 2017

[Brett Vito]

MGB:

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2017/02/unt-ol-outlook-for-2017-mean-green-look-to-improve-up-front.html/

[Matt from A700]

I still think it's crazy that sacks negatively effect your rushing yards.

[Texas Stranger]

29 minutes ago, Matt from A700 said:

I still think it's crazy that sacks negatively effect your rushing yards.

There's nowhere else to put the yardage.  A pass wasn't thrown, so it can't be negative passing yardage.  And the QB is a runner until he throws the ball.

[Cerebus]

6 hours ago, Texas Stranger said:

There's nowhere else to put the yardage.  A pass wasn't thrown, so it can't be negative passing yardage.  And the QB is a runner until he throws the ball.

This is a hold over from when the forward pass was rare, and the back receiving the snap was much more likely to run the option than attempt a pass. 

NFL counts it as negative passing yardage.

[Army of Dad]

25 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

This is a hold over from when the forward pass was rare, and the back receiving the snap was much more likely to run the option than attempt a pass. 

NFL counts it as negative passing yardage.

Yes, but with college teams using running QBs more often than the pros do I like the stats being kept the way they are now.

[Withers940]

If this line can make a positive step forward, I am excited for the following year once these young guys get some experience under their belt. First things first though, we have to vastly improve in this area and keep our QB's off their back. 

In yalls opinion, what would you accept as improvement as far as Sack allowed? 20? 15? anything better than last year?

[Mean Green 93-98]

1 hour ago, Withers940 said:

If this line can make a positive step forward, I am excited for the following year once these young guys get some experience under their belt. First things first though, we have to vastly improve in this area and keep our QB's off their back. 

In yalls opinion, what would you accept as improvement as far as Sack allowed? 20? 15? anything better than last year?

I'd love to get under 20, but I'm not sure that's realistic.  We did improve through the course of the year.  Getting that season total down from 43 to down around 30 would be marked enough improvement to consider it a favorable trend.

[Harry]

[TreeFiddy]

2.25 per game would have tied for 81st in the country last year, which equates to 27 on the year for 12 games.  This seems like an attainable goal and would be a full sack per game less than last year (3.31 per game and tied UTSA at 121st in the country).

Edited February 21, 2017 by TreeFiddy

[Withers940]

1 hour ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

I'd love to get under 20, but I'm not sure that's realistic.  We did improve through the course of the year.  Getting that season total down from 43 to down around 30 would be marked enough improvement to consider it a favorable trend.

For some reason I was thinking we allowed around 30-25 Sack total but seeing your number and checking, we allowed 43 Sacks so Hell, I would love to get 30.

[Matt from A700]

19 hours ago, Texas Stranger said:

There's nowhere else to put the yardage.  A pass wasn't thrown, so it can't be negative passing yardage.  And the QB is a runner until he throws the ball.

I wish the guys doing stats could decide whether the QB was running or looking to pass and then let it effect whichever appropriate stats. We had some terrible "rushing" games this season because Mason Fine could not get any protection.

[Green Crazy]

can someone remind me why Barr stopped starting after the marshall game?  i thought there was an injury, but he played in three more games.  so, was he wally pipp'd?

Edited February 22, 2017 by Green Crazy

[BTG_Fan1]

On ‎2‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 11:03 AM, Withers940 said:

If this line can make a positive step forward, I am excited for the following year once these young guys get some experience under their belt. First things first though, we have to vastly improve in this area and keep our QB's off their back. 

In yalls opinion, what would you accept as improvement as far as Sack allowed? 20? 15? anything better than last year?

I'd just get it around 30 or even less. I think UF had something like 9 sacks of the 43.

22 hours ago, Withers940 said:

For some reason I was thinking we allowed around 30-25 Sack total but seeing your number and checking, we allowed 43 Sacks so Hell, I would love to get 30.

I totally agree, 30 should be the goal.

The OLine and Fine both had some bad games/plays. Fine if he can learn to throw the ball away could cut that # by 5 or 6 alone.(Hoping that this is something he learns over the off-season) 2nd and 10 is better than 2nd and 16 or 18 and taken a sack.