MGB: Littrell to coach RBs

[Brett Vito]

MGB:

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2017/01/littrell-to-coach-unts-running-backs.html/

[Eagle-96]

Seth will coach the running backs next season. Seems logical as that's what he played at OU. Hope it doesn't pull him from game management duties.

Edited January 19, 2017 by Eagle-96

[NorthTexan95]

I'd imagine much of the coaching will be done by a GA or another special assistant.  

[jtm0097]

So who is going to recruit East Texas now?

[forevereagle]

9 minutes ago, PsychicUNT said:

Is this move normal, do other schools do this as well??  I'm a bit new on football coaching, but wouldn't it be better if Litrel hire a former UNT running back with experience to coach the RB's?? Maybe a former UNT running back

There are limits to the number of coaches that can be on staff, so he is trying to make things work as best possible. Just my guess on the second part.

Edited January 19, 2017 by forevereagle

[Green Crazy]

does this also save the ad money?

[Cerebus]

2 hours ago, forevereagle said:

There are limits to the number of coaches that can be on staff, so he is trying to make things work as best possible. Just my guess on the second part.

Current 1 Head Coach and 9 Assistant Coaches, but NCAA will probably allow 10 assistants very soon:

 

[Caw Caw]

9 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Current 1 Head Coach and 9 Assistant Coaches, but NCAA will probably allow 10 assistants very soon:

 

Nick Saban gets around this by have a staff greater than 60. He calls his "definitely not a coach" an analyst. They are a huge piece of his national recruiting scheme.

[forevereagle]

26 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Current 1 Head Coach and 9 Assistant Coaches, but NCAA will probably allow 10 assistants very soon:

 

Right, and I would guess that SL is hoping for that to happen and he will get someone in for the RB coach once that is an option, but working within the rules for now.

[Cerebus]

30 minutes ago, Caw Caw said:

Nick Saban gets around this by have a staff greater than 60. He calls his "definitely not a coach" an analyst. They are a huge piece of his national recruiting scheme.

They cay can't recruit or give "on field instruction", only the 10 (soon 11) coaches can do that.  

[Caw Caw]

4 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

They cay can't recruit or give "on field instruction", only the 10 (soon 11) coaches can do that.  

Yes but the analyze gobs and gobs of film, plan recruiting trips, digest a ton of information for the coaches. That means coaches are actually free to coach and go sign the kid, the aren't worried about evaluating (As much) or doing all the boring backend work.

[Mean Green 93-98]

1 hour ago, Green Crazy said:

does this also save the ad money?

There are still the same number of coaches on staff.  So unless the new hire (Biagiati?) is receiving a lower salary than Perry, the answer is no.

[outoftown]

8 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

There are still the same number of coaches on staff.  So unless the new hire (Biagiati?) is receiving a lower salary than Perry, the answer is no.

He should be receiving a lower salary, he has less experience than Perry had when h arrived here.

[Mean Green 93-98]

3 minutes ago, outoftown said:

He should be receiving a lower salary, he has less experience than Perry had when h arrived here.

Probably, and add the fact that Perry had more duties.  But it doesn't necessarily work that way.  Coaches typically get paid what someone is willing to pay them.

Edited January 19, 2017 by Mean Green 93-98

[Cerebus]

1 hour ago, Caw Caw said:

Yes but the analyze gobs and gobs of film, plan recruiting trips, digest a ton of information for the coaches. That means coaches are actually free to coach and go sign the kid, the aren't worried about evaluating (As much) or doing all the boring backend work.

Agree to a point.  They also don't have to repair their own computers, or cut their own grass, or change out the over head lights.  All that is back end work that frees them up to coach and recruit also.  I get that having all those analysts helps them do that, but they aren't actually recruiting.

There was one are in which I think those roles got used unfairly, at camps.  Since the NCAA had classified those as "instructional", that meant for 30 days a year those analysts could have contact with recruits, and coach them, at those camps.  Now

Now however the NCAA is going to reclassify them as "recruiting" activities, so those extra coaches won't have that contact.   

[Caw Caw]

4 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Agree to a point.  They also don't have to repair their own computers, or cut their own grass, or change out the over head lights.  All that is back end work that frees them up to coach and recruit also.  I get that having all those analysts helps them do that, but they aren't actually recruiting.

There was one are in which I think those roles got used unfairly, at camps.  Since the NCAA had classified those as "instructional", that meant for 30 days a year those analysts could have contact with recruits, and coach them, at those camps.  Now

Now however the NCAA is going to reclassify them as "recruiting" activities, so those extra coaches won't have that contact.   

I can buy that. But I'm in sales, and I know the more time I have freed to actually sell, the more effective I can be. The closing has to obviously be done by the recruiter (sales rep), but good support can make an average salesperson good, and make a good one great. But I do see your point, there is obviously purpose in Saban having such a large staff, and the results speak for themselves. I'm not sating that's all there is too it, i'm saying it matters. How much, however, we could debate for awhile.

[KingDL1]

Did we fire Tommy Perry? Did I miss something i was reading write up in the NT daily and it seemed like there might be more going on. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

3 minutes ago, KingDL1 said:

Did we fire Tommy Perry? Did I miss something i was reading write up in the NT daily and it seemed like there might be more going on. 

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2017/01/source-tommy-perry-out-at-unt.html/
http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2017/01/updated-source-confirms-marty-biagi-is-unts-new-special-teams-coordinator.html/

[KingDL1]

17 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2017/01/source-tommy-perry-out-at-unt.html/
http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2017/01/updated-source-confirms-marty-biagi-is-unts-new-special-teams-coordinator.html/

I got all that it was just a phrasing thing that made think there was more to it. I forgot Tommy was a holdover which I may have made him an outsider also. Seems clear it was not a mutual decision. 

[Aldo]

27 minutes ago, KingDL1 said:

Did we fire Tommy Perry? Did I miss something i was reading write up in the NT daily and it seemed like there might be more going on. 

oh hey a few things have happened through today. Might wanna sit down.

[GrandGreen]

Another loophole exploited by the powers, that the rest try to emulate in lieu of trying to get legislation to stop this nonsense. 

[Marty]

Maybe Brandin Byrd could switch back to the offensive side & help with the RBs.

[jtm0097]

On 1/18/2017 at 6:09 PM, jtm0097 said:

So who is going to recruit East Texas now?

http://etsn.fm/smu-coach-chad-morris-visits-east-texas-coaches-clinic-offers-thoughts-on-his-five-mustangs-from-east-texas/

 

Chad Morris was the keynote speaker at the East Tx coaching clinic this week. We need to maintain a presence out there as well.