Committed Players and offer sheets

GMG24 · December 11, 2016

1. RB/S Tyreke Davis: Offers from UNT, Fresno St, New Mexico I will assume he gets 2-3 more G5 offers if he was 2 inches taller he'd be looking at double digit offers. Kid can flat out play, 2016 Highlights aren't posted you can watch game by game.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3858752/tyreke-davis

2. TE Remington Lutz: New Mexico St, ACU, UNT, Coastal Carolina, and Kansas

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5535259/5832529fdfd8b7053c072461

3. DT Junius King: UNT, Lamar, A&M Commerce Listed at 6'1" 302, You have to click on newest tab to see this year's video. I hate how Hudl is changing stuff in middle of recruiting.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4080807/junius-king/videos

4. QB Cade Pearson: McNeese State, SFA, Incarnate Word, Northwestern State, Illinois St, Prairie View A&M, Missouri State, Wyoming, UNT While most offers are D1AA I still really like this recruit. Kid is a very solid pick up IMO and thats just My opinion.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4848657/cade-pearson

5. OL Brendon Weatherspoon: ULM, UNT I believe he had a knee injury (minor) and had surgery ending his senior season early. I like this kid if we can slim/trim him up in a college Strength and Conditioning program. Problem is we don't have time to wait for him to be good. Need OL in immediately.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3917007/57d585a07bddf8682498d279

6. DB Cameron Johnson: Air Force, Army, ECU, Northern Colorado, Fresno St, New Mexico St, Prairie View A&M, SFA, Alabama St, Grambling, UNT, HBU

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4203663/57e2b1def617081be8055baf

7. QB Devlin Isadore: UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/660118/devlin-isadore

8. OL Dakoda Newman: UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/5436712/dakoda-newman

9. DE/DT Tony Krasniqi: Fresno State, UNT, Lamar, Air Force, Northwestern State, Nevada

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3897682/tony-krasniqi

10. LB Kody Fulp: ULM, Incarnate Word, HBU, UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4132573/kody-fulp

11. DB Makyle Sanders: Memphis, Navy, Missouri State, UCA, Northwestern State, SFA, Louisiana College, Air Force, Liberty University, UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4273894/makyle-sanders/videos

12. RB Evan Johnson: UNT

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3551064/5721dfa864e96b63802ca4dc

Edited December 11, 2016 by GMG24

Caw Caw · December 11, 2016

I will say this. Each recruit we do have so far has a fairly competitive offer sheet. I'm looking forward @BillySee58's rating system at the end of the class. He bases it on offers.

GMG24 · December 11, 2016

2 hours ago, GMG24 said:

1. RB/S Tyreke Davis: Offers from UNT, Fresno St, New Mexico  I will assume he gets 2-3 more G5 offers if he was 2 inches taller he'd be looking at double digit offers. Kid can flat out play, 2016 Highlights aren't posted you can watch game by game.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3858752/tyreke-davis

2. TE Remington Lutz: New Mexico St, ACU, UNT, Coastal Carolina, and Kansas

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5535259/5832529fdfd8b7053c072461

3. DT Junius King: UNT, Lamar, A&M Commerce  Listed at 6'1" 302, You have to click on newest tab to see this year's video. I hate how Hudl is changing stuff in middle of recruiting.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4080807/junius-king/videos

4. QB Cade Pearson: McNeese State, SFA, Incarnate Word, Northwestern State, Illinois St, Prairie View A&M, Missouri State, Wyoming, UNT While most offers are D1AA I still really like this recruit. Kid is a very solid pick up IMO and thats just My opinion.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4848657/cade-pearson

5. OL Brendon Weatherspoon: ULM, UNT I believe he had a knee injury (minor) and had surgery ending his senior season early. I like this kid if we can slim/trim him up in a college Strength and Conditioning program. Problem is we don't have time to wait for him to be good. Need OL in immediately.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3917007/57d585a07bddf8682498d279

6. DB Cameron Johnson: Air Force, Army, ECU, Northern Colorado, Fresno St, New Mexico St, Prairie View A&M, SFA, Alabama St, Grambling, UNT, HBU

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4203663/57e2b1def617081be8055baf

7. QB Devlin Isadore: UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/660118/devlin-isadore

8. OL Dakoda Newman: UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/5436712/dakoda-newman

9. DE/DT Tony Krasniqi: Fresno State, UNT, Lamar, Air Force, Northwestern State, Nevada

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3897682/tony-krasniqi

10. LB Kody Fulp: ULM, Incarnate Word, HBU, UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4132573/kody-fulp

11. DB Makyle Sanders: Memphis, Navy, Missouri State, UCA, Northwestern State, SFA, Louisiana College, Air Force, Liberty University, UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4273894/makyle-sanders/videos

12. RB Evan Johnson:  UNT

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3551064/5721dfa864e96b63802ca4dc

D1 AA (FCS) : Abilene Christian University (ACU), Missouri State, University of Central Arkansas (UCA), Northwestern State, Stephen F. Austin (SFA), Liberty University, Incarnate Word (UIW), Houston Baptist (HBU), Lamar, Coastal Carolina, Northern Colorado, Illinois State, Alabama State (ASU)

D2: A&M Commerce

D3: Louisiana College

Take those schools out of the offer sheets and it's not quite as impressive, but at least we aren't losing kids to them right?

Ben Gooding · December 11, 2016

1 hour ago, GMG24 said:

D1 AA (FCS) : Abilene Christian University (ACU), Missouri State, University of Central Arkansas (UCA), Northwestern State, Stephen F. Austin (SFA), Liberty University, Incarnate Word (UIW), Houston Baptist (HBU), Lamar, Coastal Carolina, Northern Colorado, Illinois State, Alabama State (ASU)

D2: A&M Commerce

D3: Louisiana College

Take those schools out of the offer sheets and it's not quite as impressive, but at least we aren't losing kids to them right?

that is not a silver lining. Not at all. I think I tallied 17 total FBS offers not including UNT in our 12 commits.

UNT Mean Green · December 11, 2016

1 hour ago, GMG24 said:

D1 AA (FCS) : Abilene Christian University (ACU), Missouri State, University of Central Arkansas (UCA), Northwestern State, Stephen F. Austin (SFA), Liberty University, Incarnate Word (UIW), Houston Baptist (HBU), Lamar, Coastal Carolina, Northern Colorado, Illinois State, Alabama State (ASU)

D2: A&M Commerce

D3: Louisiana College

Take those schools out of the offer sheets and it's not quite as impressive, but at least we aren't losing kids to them right?

Be careful placing too much emphasis on offer lists" right now, as it's a very fluid time in recruiting with daily changes.

BillySee58 · December 12, 2016

1 hour ago, UNT Mean Green said:

Be careful placing too much emphasis on offer lists" right now, as it's a very fluid time in recruiting with daily changes.

Those are the schools who had offered at the time they committed to us. That is important information.

3 hours ago, GMG24 said:

D1 AA (FCS) : Abilene Christian University (ACU), Missouri State, University of Central Arkansas (UCA), Northwestern State, Stephen F. Austin (SFA), Liberty University, Incarnate Word (UIW), Houston Baptist (HBU), Lamar, Coastal Carolina, Northern Colorado, Illinois State, Alabama State (ASU)

D2: A&M Commerce

D3: Louisiana College

Take those schools out of the offer sheets and it's not quite as impressive, but at least we aren't losing kids to them right?

Yeah, I really don't factor in non-FBS offers in my rankings. Looks good the more you have, but FBS offers is where the offer lists stand to impress.

Edited December 12, 2016 by BillySee58

GMG24 · December 12, 2016

18 hours ago, GMG24 said:

1. RB/S Tyreke Davis: Offers from UNT, Fresno St, New Mexico  I will assume he gets 2-3 more G5 offers if he was 2 inches taller he'd be looking at double digit offers. Kid can flat out play, 2016 Highlights aren't posted you can watch game by game.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3858752/tyreke-davis

2. TE Remington Lutz: New Mexico St, UNT, Kansas

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5535259/5832529fdfd8b7053c072461

3. DT Junius King: UNT,   Listed at 6'1" 302, You have to click on newest tab to see this year's video. I hate how Hudl is changing stuff in middle of recruiting.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4080807/junius-king/videos

4. QB Cade Pearson: Wyoming, UNT While most offers are D1AA I still really like this recruit. Kid is a very solid pick up IMO and thats just My opinion.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4848657/cade-pearson

5. OL Brendon Weatherspoon: ULM, UNT I believe he had a knee injury (minor) and had surgery ending his senior season early. I like this kid if we can slim/trim him up in a college Strength and Conditioning program. Problem is we don't have time to wait for him to be good. Need OL in immediately.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3917007/57d585a07bddf8682498d279

6. DB Cameron Johnson: Air Force, Army, ECU, Fresno St, New Mexico St, UNT

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4203663/57e2b1def617081be8055baf

7. QB Devlin Isadore: UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/660118/devlin-isadore

8. OL Dakoda Newman: UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/5436712/dakoda-newman

9. DE/DT Tony Krasniqi: Fresno State, UNT, Air Force, Nevada

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3897682/tony-krasniqi

10. LB Kody Fulp: ULM, UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4132573/kody-fulp

11. DB Makyle Sanders: Memphis, Navy, Air Force, UNT

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4273894/makyle-sanders/videos

12. RB Evan Johnson:  UNT

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3551064/5721dfa864e96b63802ca4dc

There is with FBS offers only.

Edited December 12, 2016 by BillySee58

Cerebus · December 12, 2016

I haven't been super impressed by this class so far. It is at this moment near the bottom of CUSA. I am sure SL understands how important recruiting is, I just hope he can make staff changes IF NEEDED.

The class isn't final yet, there is still time for it to improve. If it stays as it is right now then it is troubling.

Ben Gooding · December 12, 2016

11 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

There is with FBS offers only.

Including our offer, our commits have 2.41 offers per recruit. So our commits, on average, have 1 other FBS program after them and then us. Exactly half of our commits have 2 offers (including us) or just us. At the rate this thing is going that number will probably increase.

We are cold on every rated recruits list and we have lost most recruiting momentum. Hate to mention it, but some of our conference foes have been doing pretty well for themselves over the last week. I'm applying a little pressure to the panic button. Not looking very good.

Edited December 12, 2016 by Ben Gooding

UNTLifer · December 12, 2016

3 hours ago, Cerebus said:

I haven't been super impressed by this class so far. It is at this moment near the bottom of CUSA. I am sure SL understands how important recruiting is, I just hope he can make staff changes IF NEEDED.

The class isn't final yet, there is still time for it to improve. If it stays as it is right now then it is troubling.

Something tells me we will end up with more than 12 recruits in this class.

Ben Gooding · December 12, 2016

8 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Something tells me we will end up with more than 12 recruits in this class.

Of course we will. No one is worried about ending up with a full class. Hell, we're half way there right now. The part that worries me and most is the quality of recruit already committed paired with the lack of general interest in North Texas football.

Edited December 12, 2016 by Ben Gooding
For Cerebus!!! :)

Cerebus · December 12, 2016

4 minutes ago, Ben Gooding said:

But you already know this. An apologist apologizing in a passive approach.

There is really no need to call him out, this starts arguments. You could have simply said what I was going to say:

We will have a full class, but if the composition of the rest of the class matches what we have verbally committed already it will be a very low ranked class.

See, same statement. No calling someone out (" But you already know this.") and no name calling (" An apologist apologizing").

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JUST BE CIVIL TO ONE ANOTHER.

Ben Gooding · December 12, 2016

11 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

There is really no need to call him out, this starts arguments. You could have simply said what I was going to say:

We will have a full class, but if the composition of the rest of the class matches what we have verbally committed already it will be a very low ranked class.

See, same statement. No calling someone out (" But you already know this.") and no name calling (" An apologist apologizing").

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JUST BE CIVIL TO ONE ANOTHER.

Alrighy, alright..it's edited.

Haha, but you agree?

Cerebus · December 12, 2016

I agree with your message, it's just the tone that needs to be worked on.

UNTLifer · December 12, 2016

I see the concern from everyone, but I also realize that Littrell has played everything "close to the vest" since arriving at UNT. From who our starting QB will be, to injury reports, etc... he just chooses to be pretty private on these issues. Is it good for recruiting? I have no idea, but I hope. He has appeared to have a handle on everything else since he has been in Denton, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

What does trouble me is the twitter page that was getting hammered. I seem to recall that we were paying someone good money to come here from Fresno State to fix our social media exposure and that he came with accolades. If we don't have a good class come signing day, and if there is not a good reason that we dropped Donovan and Sewell, then someone will have to stand up and answer the tough questions. Something tells me Vito won't be jeopardizing his access with hard hitting questions. Time will tell.

2 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

Of course we will. No one is worried about ending up with a full class. Hell, we're half way there right now. The part that worries me and most is the quality of recruit already committed paired with the lack of general interest in North Texas football.

It is called sarcasm.

GMG24 · December 12, 2016

40 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

I see the concern from everyone, but I also realize that Littrell has played everything "close to the vest" since arriving at UNT. From who our starting QB will be, to injury reports, etc... he just chooses to be pretty private on these issues. Is it good for recruiting? I have no idea, but I hope. He has appeared to have a handle on everything else since he has been in Denton, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

What does trouble me is the twitter page that was getting hammered. I seem to recall that we were paying someone good money to come here from Fresno State to fix our social media exposure and that he came with accolades. If we don't have a good class come signing day, and if there is not a good reason that we dropped Donovan and Sewell, then someone will have to stand up and answer the tough questions. Something tells me Vito won't be jeopardizing his access with hard hitting questions. Time will tell.

It is called sarcasm.

Other than a random non UNT affiliated account that makes edits, This is one of the few things coming out of the athletic office to my knowledge. I will keep digging.

This isn't social media related but good to see we are sending letters and showing love.

Edited December 12, 2016 by GMG24

greenminer · December 12, 2016

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

I see the concern from everyone, but I also realize that Littrell has played everything "close to the vest" since arriving at UNT.

The counterpoint to this is that the recruits are not playing it close to vest. If they get a visit, an offer or really anything that is related to possibly playing FBS football, they let social media know.

I'm not as in tune with Twitter as others here. They can probably find tons of examples of kids tweeting about coaches, schools, visits, etc. So part of the concern I'm gathering is that we are not even seeing these things from their (the kid's) side of things.

The lack of evidence doesn't prove Littrell's staff is doing nothing. It is, however, a big red flag and should be noted if February roles around and our signed class is at the bottom of CUSA.

keith · December 13, 2016

We usually get stories after recruits commit or sign that talk about their decision and why they chose UNT. Is there ever any study or outreach done with the recruits that didn't choose UNT? Were we ever really in the running or way down the list? Why? All in an effort to better understand the mind of a recruit and what does and doesn't make a difference in their decision. Would "market research" like this even be allowed?

MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF · December 14, 2016

On December 11, 2016 at 3:49 PM, GMG24 said:

D1 AA (FCS) : Abilene Christian University (ACU), Missouri State, University of Central Arkansas (UCA), Northwestern State, Stephen F. Austin (SFA), Liberty University, Incarnate Word (UIW), Houston Baptist (HBU), Lamar, Coastal Carolina, Northern Colorado, Illinois State, Alabama State (ASU)

D2: A&M Commerce

D3: Louisiana College

Take those schools out of the offer sheets and it's not quite as impressive, but at least we aren't losing kids to them right?

Agree, as painful as is it to admit. Doesn't look all that different than past classes.

Hope the bowl game is a win, and can generate more interest from recruits. So far, it's not looking spectacular.