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I am happy about this.  Rice is a place where academics truly is first. 

Now, did Rice have a bad year?  Yes.  But, I think at a place like Rice you look at the overall big picture.  David Bailiff is a guy who has been there 10 seasons now.  He's led the program to two of its three 10 win seasons...2008 and 2013.  The other 10 win season was in ... 1949!

Ken Hatfield coached at Rice for 12 seasons and has a .414 winning percentage.  Bailiff, after this season, is at .448.  He's 3-1 in the four bowl games at Rice.  I'm not sure what else you expect out of a Rice football coach.  Academics "prevents" you from being OU and Texas...and, that's fine.

Stanford, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt are private schools who mostly do better because decades ago, they joined what turned out to be the "right" conferences.  Rice was in the SWC, which folded due to UT foolishness and greed (which has also gotten them into the mess they are in now).

I really have no problem with Rice keeping Bailiff.  He has won there in the past.  There is no reason to think he won't do it again.  And, in the end, Rice fries the bigger overall fish of academic success.  Can't there be one or two schools, out of 130 or so FBS schools, that don't freak out about football and lurch from this coach to that one every three or four years?

Except for the one year Todd Graham blip, Rice has only had two head football coaches since 1994, Ken Hatfield from 1994-2006, and Bailiff from 2007 to present.  That's nice continuity; and, refreshing continuity.

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44 minutes ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

I am happy about this.  Rice is a place where academics truly is first. 

Now, did Rice have a bad year?  Yes.  But, I think at a place like Rice you look at the overall big picture.  David Bailiff is a guy who has been there 10 seasons now.  He's led the program to two of its three 10 win seasons...2008 and 2013.  The other 10 win season was in ... 1949!

Ken Hatfield coached at Rice for 12 seasons and has a .414 winning percentage.  Bailiff, after this season, is at .448.  He's 3-1 in the four bowl games at Rice.  I'm not sure what else you expect out of a Rice football coach.  Academics "prevents" you from being OU and Texas...and, that's fine.

Stanford, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt are private schools who mostly do better because decades ago, they joined what turned out to be the "right" conferences.  Rice was in the SWC, which folded due to UT foolishness and greed (which has also gotten them into the mess they are in now).

I really have no problem with Rice keeping Bailiff.  He has won there in the past.  There is no reason to think he won't do it again.  And, in the end, Rice fries the bigger overall fish of academic success.  Can't there be one or two schools, out of 130 or so FBS schools, that don't freak out about football and lurch from this coach to that one every three or four years?

Except for the one year Todd Graham blip, Rice has only had two head football coaches since 1994, Ken Hatfield from 1994-2006, and Bailiff from 2007 to present.  That's nice continuity; and, refreshing continuity.

Great post.  I can see how it would be hard for their fans to see that bigger picture right now, but this is dead on.

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North Texas' endowment fund is about $150 million .  Rice's endowment is about $5.5 Billion.

They could take their lose pocket change and build a upper level G5 program.  They have in other sports.  Rice baseball has been in 20 consecutive NCAA tournaments.  They have 20+ active players in MLB. 

Rice is in a different ballpark than we are.  Money doesn't have to be an issue for them.  If it is an issue, it's because leadership has decided it to be one.  

The Rice alumni I have spoken to are just very frustrated that the school has decided to not put major effort in FBS football.  

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50 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

North Texas' endowment fund is about $150 million .  Rice's endowment is about $5.5 Billion.

They could take their lose pocket change and build a upper level G5 program.  They have in other sports.  Rice baseball has been in 20 consecutive NCAA tournaments.  They have 20+ active players in MLB. 

Rice is in a different ballpark than we are.  Money doesn't have to be an issue for them.  If it is an issue, it's because leadership has decided it to be one.  

The Rice alumni I have spoken to are just very frustrated that the school has decided to not put major effort in FBS football.  

This is just an aside, but UNT's endowment is still quite pitiful for its size and the fact that it's a D1 school. I know that since Smatresk came on board it has been (relatively-speaking) dramatically increasing, but we're still way behind. Even little UT Dallas has surpassed the $400 million mark.

Just a little something that still irks me.

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2 hours ago, dmaxel said:

This is just an aside, but UNT's endowment is still quite pitiful for its size and the fact that it's a D1 school. I know that since Smatresk came on board it has been (relatively-speaking) dramatically increasing, but we're still way behind. Even little UT Dallas has surpassed the $400 million mark.

Just a little something that still irks me.

UT-Dallas has alumni who go straight to work in science and tech jobs. They make a lot more than teachers and music/arts majors that we have rolled out for decades. Plus, UTD has no sports teams to take money to build up.

Here, finally, we have people in place to begin the journey upward except at chancellor. Great vision from the president, BOR, athletic director, and football coach. We have been about 25 years behind in just about everything regarding raising capital for areas that can  produce more revenue in the years to come. And it's very possible that it is too late to make the difference we want it to make when it comes to athletics--but if we can make progress toward the goal of increasing capital across the board, the guys we have in place now look to be the ones who just might be able to pull it off. 

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On 11/29/2016 at 7:13 PM, untjim1995 said:

UT-Dallas has alumni who go straight to work in science and tech jobs. They make a lot more than teachers and music/arts majors that we have rolled out for decades. Plus, UTD has no sports teams to take money to build up.

Here, finally, we have people in place to begin the journey upward except at chancellor. Great vision from the president, BOR, athletic director, and football coach. We have been about 25 years behind in just about everything regarding raising capital for areas that can  produce more revenue in the years to come. And it's very possible that it is too late to make the difference we want it to make when it comes to athletics--but if we can make progress toward the goal of increasing capital across the board, the guys we have in place now look to be the ones who just might be able to pull it off. 

Mostly true...except UTD does compete in Division III of NCAA.  They are the Comets...and, yes, they have a mascot:
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Had a neighbor growing up whose daughter played soccer and softball there. 

When our kids were taking Chinese, we'd go there for events and competitions.  It's a really, really international-student heavy campus.  Very different from when my mom got her accounting degree there back in the late 70s.  The school and that part of Richardson have both changed a bunch over the past two decades. 

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