How Big a Deal was Beating Army? I have a question?

[KingDL1]

Does anybody remember the last time we beat a fully D1a  out of conference opponent in the regular season with a winning record at game time and at their house (away game)? Plus we also D1a or equivalent. 

I could not think of it...........

[UNTeagle88]

As well as in their house.

[Cerebus]

54 minutes ago, KingDL1 said:

Does anybody remember the last time we beat a fully D1a  out of conference opponent in the regular season with a winning record at game time and at their house (away game)? Plus we also D1a or equivalent. 

I could not think of it...........

Do you considered .500 a winning record?

If so in 1999 we beat a 1-1 Texas Tech in Lubbock.

 

Do you consider every game an independent pays to be OOC?

If so in 1978 we beat a 4-2 La Tech who was a member of the southland at the time.

On the flip side in  1970 we as mvc members beat independent  3-1 west Texas state.

 

FINALLY: If you want to find a game where we as a conference member beat a team in another conference when they had a winning record...

We as MVC members beat 1-0 UTEP, a member of the Border Intercollegiate Athletic Association, in 1959.

 

BUT, Technically:  DI came into existence in 1973.   Before that the divisions were University and College.  After 1973 University became DI*, and College subdivided into DII and DIII.  In 1959 both UTEP and NT were in the top division,University.   But technically it wasn't DI.

 

 

*Then DI got divided into D1-A and D1-AA in 1978.  DII and DIII did not change at the time.    

[DeepGreen]

Beat a 3-2 Tennessee in 1975.  Does that count?

[KingDL1]

10 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Do you considered .500 a winning record?

If so in 1999 we beat a 1-1 Texas Tech in Lubbock.

 

Do you consider every game an independent pays to be OOC?

If so in 1978 we beat a 4-2 La Tech who was a member of the southland at the time.

On the flip side in  1970 we as mvc members beat independent  3-1 west Texas state.

FINALLY: If you want to find a game where we as a conference member beat a team in another conference when they had a winning record...

 We as MVC members beat 1-0 UTEP, a member of the Border Intercollegiate Athletic Association in 1959.

 

I would say .500 is not a winning record. 

I would say if we are independent then independents are our conference.

To the nature of my thought I find 10-28-1978 La Tech the game I considered last but I think the 10-17-1970 

West Texas State game could be the more fitting game. 

So it only took us between 38-46 years to do it again,

 

It took SL & staff 7 games. 

[Cerebus]

3 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

Beat a 3-2 Tennessee in 1975.  Does that count?

Deep is completely right.  I thought they came in 2-3 in 1975.  They had in fact beat LSU, Auburn, and #14 Maryland before our game.  

 

However as you can tell, beating a OOC team with a winning record on the road is something that has happened RARELY. 

 

[KingDL1]

9 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

Beat a 3-2 Tennessee in 1975.  Does that count?

Yes I think that one counts and is the bigger win, But I think LA Tech was last.

5 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Deep is completely right.  I thought they came in 2-3 in 1975.  They had in fact beat LSU, Auburn, and #14 Maryland before our game.  

 

However as you can tell, beating a OOC team with a winning record on the road is something that has happened RARELY. 

 

Crazy isn't. 

[VideoEagle]

Just for those who might not be sure, the Southland was a 1A conference in 78. 

[PlummMeanGreen]

9 hours ago, DeepGreen said:

Beat a 3-2 Tennessee in 1975.  Does that count?

And a Tennessee that would have been bowl eligible had there been as many bowls as today. 

North Texas vs. Army?  It was a huge win since it was nationally broadcasted on CBSS. 

I have no idea how to predict the rest of our games, so to put it in a Sinatra hit song title & blast from the past I have.......

HIGH HOPES!

Beat the Beep! Beeps! 

Edited October 25, 2016 by PlummMeanGreen

[oldguystudent]

1 hour ago, VideoEagle said:

Just for those who might not be sure, the Southland was a 1A conference in 78. 

1978 - I count 136 D1A teams spread over 13 conferences.  But mein gott, man!  Look at the list of independents that year!

[MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF]

2 hours ago, oldguystudent said:

1978 - I count 136 D1A teams spread over 13 conferences.  But mein gott, man!  Look at the list of independents that year!

Impressive.  Nice find, man!  Good to show the young Mean Greeners who believe we've only had four winning season EVER.

[wardly]

This win against a good Army team on the road was as big a win for our program as was SMU's home victory over Houston. UTSA scares me, as I don't know which Roadrunner team will show up. The one that thumped So. Miss or the one that lost t0 UTEP.