The Wheeler hit was not intentional

Green Mean · September 18, 2016

6 hours ago, UNT 90 Grad said:

"The hit was very dirty in my mind". Whatevs dude. I wonder what else goes on in his mind.

Drama queen

UNT 90 Grad · September 18, 2016

25 minutes ago, Rudy said:

So anytime a defender tries to tackle a running back or a receiver by the legs, that's dirty?

Only applies to passers: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/new-rule-protect-passers-low-hits

rcade · September 18, 2016

1 hour ago, Mean_Green09 said:

He intentionally went low because that's all he could do.

He was tripped. People who get tripped go low because that's how gravity works.

Gatorbait · September 18, 2016

BS. Once is an accident 2 times in 3 games is not. You may think cause we didn't score 60 on you that you won but your team took cheap little shots all game trying to prove to themselves they belong on the field with us. Pop Warner teaches you not to lower your head and launch at a knee. It may not have been his intent to hurt him but it was his intent to hit him low around the knee. I can only hope that the high school league you guys play in learns about this guy and makes a few of your players pay the same price. Luckily we took the high road and didn't retaliate.

meangreenthirteen · September 18, 2016

1 minute ago, Gatorbait said:

BS. Once is an accident 2 times in 3 games is not. You may think cause we didn't score 60 on you that you won but your team took cheap little shots all game trying to prove to themselves they belong on the field with us. Pop Warner teaches you not to lower your head and launch at a knee. It may not have been his intent to hurt him but it was his intent to hit him low around the knee. I can only hope that the high school league you guys play in learns about this guy and makes a few of your players pay the same price. Luckily we took the high road and didn't retaliate.

Have you ever played a meaningful second of football in your life? You don't know what you're talking about.

eulessismore · September 18, 2016

54 minutes ago, rcade said:

He was tripped. People who get tripped go low because that's how gravity works.

+1, for gravity reference. Once tripped, all is physics.

Edited September 18, 2016 by eulessismore

Mean_Green09 · September 18, 2016

42 minutes ago, rcade said:

He was tripped. People who get tripped go low because that's how gravity works.

He wasn't tripped lol

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

So anytime a defender tries to tackle a running back or a receiver by the legs, that's dirty?

Sorry going low on a QB is widely considered dirty. That why this is get such a dramatic injury. That why it was a penalty

Mean Green 93-98 · September 18, 2016

22 minutes ago, Gatorbait said:

BS. Once is an accident 2 times in 3 games is not. You may think cause we didn't score 60 on you that you won but your team took cheap little shots all game trying to prove to themselves they belong on the field with us. Pop Warner teaches you not to lower your head and launch at a knee. It may not have been his intent to hurt him but it was his intent to hit him low around the knee. I can only hope that the high school league you guys play in learns about this guy and makes a few of your players pay the same price. Luckily we took the high road and didn't retaliate.

What's that supposed to mean, "Cheap little shots trying to prove to themselves they belong on the field with us"? You mean, "Trying to win the game"? That's football, son. You play the game; it's a physical game; and sometimes people get hurt. I'm not glad your QB got hurt, and no one in our fanbase or on the UNT coaching staff or team is. Get over yourself.

TIgreen01 · September 18, 2016

25 minutes ago, Gatorbait said:

BS. Once is an accident 2 times in 3 games is not. You may think cause we didn't score 60 on you that you won but your team took cheap little shots all game trying to prove to themselves they belong on the field with us. Pop Warner teaches you not to lower your head and launch at a knee. It may not have been his intent to hurt him but it was his intent to hit him low around the knee. I can only hope that the high school league you guys play in learns about this guy and makes a few of your players pay the same price. Luckily we took the high road and didn't retaliate.

Did you see the tackle that injured the smu QB? Clearly not. The hit on del Rio was nasty looking, but get out of here calling our team dirty and for retaliation on Wheeler.

Cerebus · September 18, 2016

16 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:

He wasn't tripped lol

Sorry going low on a QB is widely considered dirty. That why this is get such a dramatic injury. That why it was a penalty

You are wrong. First, If you bothered to read the rule you would see it says:

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The rule specifically covers a scenario in which a quarterback is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground. In that situation, no defensive player rushing unabated can hit him forcibly at or below the knee. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the quarterback in the knee area or below.

Wheeler first makes contact with his shoulder to LDR's thigh, he is closer to his hip than he is his knee.

Second, there are exception to the above rule:

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Exceptions for these types of hits occur when:

the passer becomes a runner, either inside or outside the tackle box;

the defender grabs or wraps the passer in an attempt to make a conventional tackle;

the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into the passer.

Wheeler tried to wrap up, even if he had hit him below the knee, it still shouldn't have been a flag. He was also not unabated, he was in contact with a Florida player.

@Gatorbait I get that you guys have lost a lot of QB's to injury the last few years, but this was just bad luck.

KingDL1 · September 18, 2016

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mean_Green09 · September 18, 2016

43 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

You are wrong. First, If you bothered to read the rule you would see it says:

Wheeler first makes contact with his shoulder to LDR's thigh, he is closer to his hip than he is his knee.

Second, there are exception to the above rule:

Wheeler tried to wrap up, even if he had hit him below the knee, it still shouldn't have been a flag. He was also not unabated, he was in contact with a Florida player.

@Gatorbait I get that you guys have lost a lot of QB's to injury the last few years, but this was just bad luck.

Of course I'm wrong on the rule. Dude I don't pay attention to the fucking rules. My stupidity needs to be banned for here so plz do it.

Im not wrong about him being tripped and he wasn't being touched while going for the hit.

Again I guess I'm wrong. Please ban my dumb ass.

Whats it going to be banned or deleted on this board? Plz take care of that for me.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Mean_Green09

KingDL1 · September 18, 2016

12 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:

Of course I'm wrong on the rule. Dude I don't pay attention to the fucking rules. My stupidity needs to be banned for here so plz do it.

Im not wrong about him being tripped and he wasn't being touched while going for the hit.

Again I guess I'm wrong. Please ban my dumb ass

Untouched? Have you had your vision checked lately? Did you see Goolsby?

Mean_Green09 · September 18, 2016

1 minute ago, KingDL1 said:

Untouched? Have you had you vision checked lately,

Nope I choose to live with bad eyesight. Makes me feel good about everything I say which is grossly wrong. And yeah untouched 30 tried to trip him but didn't.

KingDL1 · September 18, 2016

11 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:

Nope I choose to live with bad eyesight. Makes me feel good about everything I say which is grossly wrong. And yeah untouched 30 tried to trip him but didn't.

Wow I guess so for your bad eye sight, looked more like a shove to me. If Wheeler was touched at all it is no longer unabated watch the whole play not the just the slow mo Goolsby has contact with him the whole way.

The Slow Mo does not show most of the play.

TIgreen01 · September 18, 2016

Wheeler stumbled and was falling, but I don't think he was tripped. He was just scrambling to try to disrupt the QB and didn't have body control. My $.02.

Mean_Green09 · September 18, 2016

46 minutes ago, KingDL1 said:

Wow I guess so for your bad eye sight, looked more like a shove to me. If Wheeler was touched at all it is no longer unabated watch the whole play not the just the slow mo Goolsby has contact with him the whole way.

The Slow Mo does not show most of the play.

I've seen enough of the f*****g replays. So I'll continue to disagree with you and most of everyone here no matter how many down votes I get.

Ban or delete this account

Rudy · September 18, 2016

1 hour ago, Gatorbait said:

BS. Once is an accident 2 times in 3 games is not. You may think cause we didn't score 60 on you that you won but your team took cheap little shots all game trying to prove to themselves they belong on the field with us. Pop Warner teaches you not to lower your head and launch at a knee. It may not have been his intent to hurt him but it was his intent to hit him low around the knee. I can only hope that the high school league you guys play in learns about this guy and makes a few of your players pay the same price. Luckily we took the high road and didn't retaliate.

Piss off. I'm tired of the classes assholes that I've seen call themselves Florida fans the past 12 hours. Your coach acts like a little bitch and tries to storm the field to start a fight, your backup QB acts like a bitch in the press conference. Your "fans " stalk anyone who disagrees with them. Your fans as a whole are a terrible group of people.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Rudy

GangGreen · September 18, 2016

25 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:

I've seen enough of the f*****g replays. So I'll continue to disagree with you and most of everyone here no matter how many down votes I get.

Ban or delete this account

Why are you acting like a baby?

Mean_Green09 · September 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, GangGreen said:

Why are you acting like a baby?

Damn those are harsh words for a blind guy.

Caw Caw · September 18, 2016

Yes Florida has a history of recent saintly hits. Florida always plays fair and never hits with ill intention:

2015 vs Vandy QB: https://vine.co/a2693280-b62a-4720-ac8c-b5d52d9f1b91 soooooo many tweets about intent should be part of an injection. Love the flip flop here specificially: http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/florida-football/gators-sherit-ejected-targeting/

Fournette is on the record saying he felt like he was in a street fight it was so dirty playing florida: http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2015/10/les_miles_sends_video_to_sec_o.html LSU sent in film to the NCAA of dirty plays.

Literally zero point to dig any further.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Caw Caw

GangGreen · September 18, 2016

If it is making you so angry, nobody has to ban or delete you, you could just stop paying attention.

1 minute ago, Mean_Green09 said:

Damn those are harsh words for a blind guy.

I actually agree with you, but you are acting like a spoiled little brat.

Rudy · September 18, 2016

Someone remind me, what school did Aaron Hernandez go to? Talk about a culture of being dirty.

Oh, which school had a player ejected?

Edited September 18, 2016 by Rudy

UNT 90 Grad · September 18, 2016

I dunno. Looks pretty obvious that #30 was losing the battle against Wheeler and whipped his left leg around and tripped him...

6 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:

Damn those are harsh words for a blind guy.

You're better than this, GG.

Big E · September 18, 2016

Watch the video frame by frame. The blocker's bottom of his right foot trips Wheeler's bottom of his left foot and he immediately moves from a running position to a diving position. The bottom of their cleats touched...cleat on cleat. You can clearly see Wheeler's left leg extend in a disrupted fashion after being tripped. Was the trip intentional by the blocker or incidental? I'm not sure on that. The blocker knows the answer to that question. The Florida fans, for some sensationalistic reason, may feel better trying to make this into something it's not, but the reality is our D played good, clean football and Wheeler gave tremendous effort, but the video clearly shows he was tripped and it altered his pass rush into a low dive. The reality is the officials could have called tripping on Florida and roughing the passer, as they did, on UNT. At the end of the day, football is a violent sport and accidents do happen. I'm convinced nobody wanted to see Del Rio hurt. He's a tough competitor, just like his dad. I grew up cheering for his dad when he was with the Dallas Cowboys. I pray that Luke has a swift recovery.