Red Shirt #s?

Wag Tag · September 12, 2016

I have seen 3 freshman play in Fine, Hamilton, and a wr from Sweetwater.

Does anybody have any idea of what red shirts have been burned and who? Also who is still red shirted.

Thanks

meangreenacct · September 12, 2016

29 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

I have seen 3 freshman play in Fine, Hamilton, and a wr from Sweetwater.

Does anybody have any idea of what red shirts have been burned and who? Also who is still red shirted.

Thanks

Following true freshman have played -

Mason Fine

Rico Bussey

Spencer Edwards

Hamilton

Michael Lawrence

Jameel Moore

Muhammad

Tyler Wilson

Hunter Green · September 12, 2016

1 hour ago, Wag Tag said:

I have seen 3 freshman play in Fine, Hamilton, and a wr from Sweetwater.

Does anybody have any idea of what red shirts have been burned and who? Also who is still red shirted.

Thanks

I don't think we have the numbers to red shirt anyone this year. It's all hands on deck.

GMG24 · September 12, 2016

4 hours ago, meangreenacct said:

Following true freshman have played -

Mason Fine

Rico Bussey

Spencer Edwards

Hamilton

Michael Lawrence

Jameel Moore

Muhammad

Tyler Wilson

I havent seen but has anyone seen Nick Smith? Hoping we can keep his redshirt and have a dynamic combo for Jeffrey WIlson's senior year with him and Smith. Smith reminds me alot of Wilson just a hair smaller.

From my count here is who has NOT played. Correct me if I am wrong. If they are highlighted in Red then I believe their shirt is still good.

POS.	HT	WT	Year	Hometown	Last School
42	Corey Mann	LB	6-0	195	FR	Decatur, TX	Temple HS
94	Sam Aguilera	P/K	6-5	200	FR	Fort Worth, TX	W.E. Boswell HS
83	Tyler Wilson	WR	5-11	170	FR	Arlington, TX	Martin HS
39	Braydon Watson	WR	5-11	175	FR	Waco, TX	Celina HS
96	Tim Ursery	DS	6-2	238	FR	Great Mills, MD	Great Mills HS
44	Nick Smith	RB	5-10	175	FR	Arlington, TX	Martin HS
80	Will Boyd	WR	6-3	185	FR	Arlington, TX	Pantego Christian Academy
57	Bernie Santos	OL	6-3	326	FR	Argyle, TX	Guyer HS
8	Rico Bussey, Jr.	WR	6-2	175	FR	Lawton, OK	Eisenhower HS
88	Jason Pirtle	WR	6-2	195	FR	Locust Grove, OK	Locust Grove HS
10	Mitch Cason	QB	6-2	183	FR	Flower Mound, TX	Marcus HS
93	Blake Patterson	K	6-2	195	FR	Round Rock, TX	Cedar Ridge HS
94	JoJo Ozougwu	DE	6-3	205	FR	Alief, TX	Taylor HS
60	Doro Omerhi	OL	6-4	290	FR	Pearland, TX	Pearland HS
4	Khairi Muhammad	DB	5-11	170	FR	DeSoto, TX	DeSoto HS
39	Jameel Moore	DB	5-10	160	FR	Cedar Hill, TX	Cedar Hill HS
47	Dakota Michaels	WR	6-1	185	FR	Lucas, TX	Lovejoy HS
40	Trever Merrell	RB	5-10	195	FR	Davis, OK	Davis HS
34	Elijah McIntyre	WR	6-0	184	FR	Arlington, TX	Grace Preparatory Academy
27	Kam Duhon	WR	5-11	170	FR	Southlake, TX	Southlake Carroll
20	Spencer Edwards	WR	6-0	170	FR	Rockwall, TX	Rockwall HS
74	Chandler Anthony	OL	6-7	280	FR	Tuttle, OK	Tuttle HS
32	Michael Lawrence	WR	5-10	165	FR	Sweetwater, TX	Sweetwater HS
59	Hayden Harrison	LB	6-2	220	FR	Wollforth, TX	Frenship HS
50	LaDarius Hamilton	LB	6-3	240	FR	Corrigan, TX	Corrigan-Camden HS
6	Mason Fine	QB	5-11	170	FR	Locust Grove, OK	Locust Grove HS
82	Deion Hair-Griffin	WR	5-10	165	FR	Fort Worth, TX	Arlington Heights HS
57	Shane Gerths	LB	6-1	205	FR	Celina, TX	Celina HS

Edited September 12, 2016 by GMG24

GrandGreen · September 12, 2016

Unless I missed something only three scholarship players have not played: Smith and I think most can see why; NT is well stocked with running backs. Anthony, an offensive lineman who was on crutches. Hair-Griffin which is somewhat surprising because NT needs speed at receiver, but he is learning the position.

There were not many freshmen signees, and very few of them were highly recruited. Based on that, I am pleasantly surprised at the apparent quality of the freshmen class. Fine and Hamilton certainly belong on the field and several others are getting good minutes.

NewNTfan · September 12, 2016

88 Jason Pirtle hasn't played yet.

MeanGreenDan · September 12, 2016

49 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Hair-Griffin which is somewhat surprising because NT needs speed at receiver, but he is learning the position.

Thought I read @Brett Vito say he was not active this week (even though I did see him dressed out).

Cr1028 · September 12, 2016

2 hours ago, GMG24 said:

I havent seen but has anyone seen Nick Smith? Hoping we can keep his redshirt and have a dynamic combo for Jeffrey WIlson's senior year with him and Smith. Smith reminds me alot of Wilson just a hair smaller.

From my count here is who has NOT played. Correct me if I am wrong. If they are highlighted in Red then I believe their shirt is still good.

POS. HT WT Year Hometown Last School
42 Corey Mann LB 6-0 195 FR Decatur, TX Temple HS
94 Sam Aguilera P/K 6-5 200 FR Fort Worth, TX W.E. Boswell HS
83 Tyler Wilson WR 5-11 170 FR Arlington, TX Martin HS
39 Braydon Watson WR 5-11 175 FR Waco, TX Celina HS
96 Tim Ursery DS 6-2 238 FR Great Mills, MD Great Mills HS
44 Nick Smith RB 5-10 175 FR Arlington, TX Martin HS
80 Will Boyd WR 6-3 185 FR Arlington, TX Pantego Christian Academy
57 Bernie Santos OL 6-3 326 FR Argyle, TX Guyer HS
8 Rico Bussey, Jr. WR 6-2 175 FR Lawton, OK Eisenhower HS
88 Jason Pirtle WR 6-2 195 FR Locust Grove, OK Locust Grove HS
10 Mitch Cason QB 6-2 183 FR Flower Mound, TX Marcus HS
93 Blake Patterson K 6-2 195 FR Round Rock, TX Cedar Ridge HS
94 JoJo Ozougwu DE 6-3 205 FR Alief, TX Taylor HS
60 Doro Omerhi OL 6-4 290 FR Pearland, TX Pearland HS
4 Khairi Muhammad DB 5-11 170 FR DeSoto, TX DeSoto HS
39 Jameel Moore DB 5-10 160 FR Cedar Hill, TX Cedar Hill HS
47 Dakota Michaels WR 6-1 185 FR Lucas, TX Lovejoy HS
40 Trever Merrell RB 5-10 195 FR Davis, OK Davis HS
34 Elijah McIntyre WR 6-0 184 FR Arlington, TX Grace Preparatory Academy
27 Kam Duhon WR 5-11 170 FR Southlake, TX Southlake Carroll
20 Spencer Edwards WR 6-0 170 FR Rockwall, TX Rockwall HS
74 Chandler Anthony OL 6-7 280 FR Tuttle, OK Tuttle HS
32 Michael Lawrence WR 5-10 165 FR Sweetwater, TX Sweetwater HS
59 Hayden Harrison LB 6-2 220 FR Wollforth, TX Frenship HS
50 LaDarius Hamilton LB 6-3 240 FR Corrigan, TX Corrigan-Camden HS
6 Mason Fine QB 5-11 170 FR Locust Grove, OK Locust Grove HS
82 Deion Hair-Griffin WR 5-10 165 FR Fort Worth, TX Arlington Heights HS
57 Shane Gerths LB 6-1 205 FR Celina, TX Celina HS

I believe the person that said Pirtle should be red, I think Blake Patterson should be reda, and I know damn well Mitch Cason should be red unless he is holding field goals or something because he surely hasn't seen the field at quarterback this season.

GMG_Dallas · September 12, 2016

2 hours ago, NewNTfan said:

88 Jason Pirtle hasn't played yet.

With the way our WRs are playing so far, I'm thinking tossing Pirtle out there might be a good idea. He and Mason obviously have chemistry and it might help Mason ease into being the starting QB a bit more. He doesn't need to be in the 2-deep but let him in on a few snaps here and there. Has anybody heard anything about him so far this season?

GMG24 · September 12, 2016

47 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

I believe the person that said Pirtle should be red, I think Blake Patterson should be reda, and I know damn well Mitch Cason should be red unless he is holding field goals or something because he surely hasn't seen the field at quarterback this season.

Yeah, I felt like I missed a chunk of players but I had looked at it so long I was looking right over the easiest position QB. Good eyes. It is fixed.

PlummMeanGreen · September 12, 2016

4 hours ago, NewNTfan said:

88 Jason Pirtle hasn't played yet.

Be nice when Mason Fine gets the other half of his HS receiving tandem on the field whether it be this year or next.

I read where Jason Pirtle runs a 4.7 forty, but 2 of his fellow Oklahomans who played years ago at Tulsa, namely Howard Twilley who was no speed-burner and former Tulsa U great and Seattle Seahawk Hall of Famer Steve Largent ran a 4.6 forty. Both ran excellent routes & could catch anything thrown their direction. Good to have good possession receivers on the squad to complement any speed burners on this team now or in the near future.

GMG!

Edited September 12, 2016 by PlummMeanGreen

NewNTfan · September 12, 2016

Pirtle used his 6'-3" body well and would hold off defenders and take the ball from them, at least in the high schools ranks. He has caught many fade routes from mason too. Good possession receiver and doesn't drop many.

baberuthbomber8 · September 15, 2016

On 9/12/2016 at 2:02 PM, GMG_Dallas said:

With the way our WRs are playing so far, I'm thinking tossing Pirtle out there might be a good idea. He and Mason obviously have chemistry and it might help Mason ease into being the starting QB a bit more. He doesn't need to be in the 2-deep but let him in on a few snaps here and there. Has anybody heard anything about him so far this season?

Ive been saying this from the start with Fine and your right on point.. SL wants to bring a QB every year and I think we should bring in that QBs top target or at least 1 of them. Doing this will help that QB ease into the playbook and have a certain sense of trust with someone plus it also adds to our skill depth as well. People may not agree, but that QB having someone to talk and to help with studying film and even just going out and throwing passes.

GMG_Dallas · September 15, 2016

4 hours ago, baberuthbomber8 said:

Ive been saying this from the start with Fine and your right on point.. SL wants to bring a QB every year and I think we should bring in that QBs top target or at least 1 of them. Doing this will help that QB ease into the playbook and have a certain sense of trust with someone plus it also adds to our skill depth as well. People may not agree, but that QB having someone to talk and to help with studying film and even just going out and throwing passes.

With the way out receivers have been playing so far, I just don't see how it would hurt. Plus, to add to your point of chemistry, mason and Jason are incredibly close (from everything I've read and watched) so let's make sure Jason stays interested and doesn't transfer. Who knows if that would affect Mason at all but let's not chance it...

casual fan · September 15, 2016

Raymond Berry had one leg shorter than the other and no speed. He played JUCO ball prior to smu.

He was 6' 2" and hung onto everything he touched. In 13 years with the Colts he fumbled once. He and Jonny Unitas could read each others minds.

When the Cowboys hired him as a couch, he ran some sideline routes to show how it was done. After he kept touching his toes a few inches out of bounds, he told them the field was wrong. They laughed. The next day he brought a tape measure. When they measured the field, they found it was almost a yard too narrow.