Morris & Fine

MeanGreenWithEnvy · September 4, 2016

I don't think Alec Morris is a bad QB.

I do think that Mason Fine is a better fit for this offense at this point in time due to his experience running a spread in HS.

Even considering that he wasn't seeing SMU's first string defense, three things jumped off the page in watching Fine: first and most importantly, he's got the internal clock for a spread QB playing behind a line that is still gelling. Second, he will move around to buy himself an additional couple of seconds. Third, he throws a really nice ball. When it needed zip, it had zip. When it needed touch, it had touch.

Very small sample size on Fine and taking context into consideration, he looked very good.

More on this tomorrow and other observations in Notes From Section 105. Go Mean Green!

Eastwood Eagle · September 5, 2016

His size does not bother me. See Greg Ward, Jr.

I think that Morris should start BC but allow Fine to get a lot of reps in the second half.

UNT 90 Grad · September 5, 2016

15 minutes ago, dd992emo said:

The thread title sounds like one of those accident law firms. "Call Morris & Fine today!"

Maybe a new musical duo?

KingDL1 · September 5, 2016

Morris had zip on the ball the with a quick release at the scrimmage I went to. I am guessing he has not started a game in nearly 5 years it might be some gameday rust. At the moment Fine is the future of this program. so Morris is here to help the transition.

UNT90 · September 5, 2016

Nick Mullens is listed as 6'1, 198lbs as a senior.

Which means he is closer to 5'11", 185lbs.

Injury risk is ALWAYS there, no matter the size. Play the best player.

UNT 90 Grad · September 5, 2016

28 minutes ago, dd992emo said:

I just watched Littrell's post-game presser again, and got the feeling he is torn on his QB situation. I think maybe Fine is out-performing everyone in practice and Seth wants to know if that will translate to game speed, but that "don't play a freshman QB" thing is stuck in the back of his mind. He mentioned the competition aspect, but I just think he's worried about injuring his future QB. Be interesting to watch...

I wonder if he watched any of the Texas game last night...the one where the team led by a true freshman QB beat the #10 team in the country.

Ben Gooding · September 5, 2016

1 minute ago, UNT 90 Grad said:

I wonder if he watched any of the Texas game last night...the one where the team led by a true freshman QB beat the #10 team in the country.

Good game. Too bad Texas won. But, yeah, play the player that gives us the best chance to win game to game. I say play them both the remainder of the season.

UNT Mean Green · September 5, 2016

46 minutes ago, UNT 90 Grad said:

I wonder if he watched any of the Texas game last night...the one where the team led by a true freshman QB beat the #10 team in the country.

It may be hard for a coach to have time to watch much football during the season. @dd992emo said it best as "torn". The good news is that this staff has demonstrated that they'll play the best guy regardless of background.

Buechele was Texas' best option, and while I know that he was a highly rated recruit, he and Fine do possess similarities in their style.

Cr1028 · September 5, 2016

9 minutes ago, UNT Mean Green said:

It may be hard for a coach to have time to watch much football during the season. @dd992emo said it best as "torn". The good news is that this staff has demonstrated that they'll play the best guy regardless of background.

Buechele was Texas' best option, and while I know that he was a highly rated recruit, he and Fine do possess similarities in their style.

And Buechele is only 6'1".

PlummMeanGreen · September 5, 2016

Boston College's Doug Flutie was 5'9".

He did alright.

greenjoe · September 5, 2016

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MeanGreenTexan · September 5, 2016

Fine came in and was a little field general out there. Barking commands to the entire offense, and they respected him. I liked it.

However... He faced virtually zero blitzes and conservative-almost-prevent secondary that late in the game, so lots of underneath & mid-range stuff was open. Nevermind that it was mostly SMU's second-string defense in there. I like the way he plays though, and am intrigued to see more. Got confused there at the very end taking some bad sacks... but he was keeping his eyes downfield instead of bailing on the play... and I like that.

Morris was erratic. Threw the ball with tons of zip when it wasnt necessary. Threw the ball with touch when they needed more zip (on WR bubble screens, short out routes, etc...). HOLDING THE BALL WAAAAY TOO LONG. That needs to get corrected quick if he's going to remain the starter.

UNT Mean Green · September 5, 2016

So what do you guys do if you're the head ball coach?

Play Morris? Play Fine? Play both?

risinggreen · September 6, 2016

9 hours ago, UNT Mean Green said:

So what do you guys do if you're the head ball coach?

Play Morris? Play Fine? Play both?

Play both. HOPEFULLY, giving time to all of them this week won't be a problem.

outoftown · September 6, 2016

Personally I was really impressed with Fines first outing, and then really let down by his second drive. I think we should give Morris time until at least the Florida game (while also giving some reps to Fine in either game). With playing an FCS and then a good P5 we should then know exactly what his ceiling and floor are before we go into conference play. If I am particularly afraid for Fines health in any game, it would be the Florida game.

MeanGreenTexan · September 6, 2016

Start Morris. Everyone knows the leash is significantly shorter though...

UNT90 · September 6, 2016

19 hours ago, UNT Mean Green said:

So what do you guys do if you're the head ball coach?

Play Morris? Play Fine? Play both?

It's pretty simple. Play the person te coach thinks is the best player.

GrandGreen · September 6, 2016

Fine's second drive may not have been impressive, but I doubt any QB could have don better with basically no blocking. SMU put the pressure on, and NT just could not stop them.

I'm not sure when was the last time, there were not a segment of NT fans calling for a QB change. Even Thompson's senior year, most of the schedule was over before many decided that he just might be doing a good job.

Morris's start was rough and Fine's was promising. I think either QB is better than anything NT has trotted out since Thompson. Morris will continue to start and should, however if he doesn't improve; there is no reason not to go with the future and Fine.

UNT 90 Grad · September 6, 2016

If you want to listen to the call of the Fine drive, it starts right about the 4 hour mark:

http://www.kntu.com/2016/09/03/smu-nt/

PlummMeanGreen · September 6, 2016

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