MGB: UNT football media day notes

Brett Vito · August 22, 2016

MGB: Terian Goree talks about renewed hope heading into season

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2016/08/unt-media-day-notes-thoughts.html/

Ben Gooding · August 22, 2016

I like it. I like hearing what Goree says about last year compared to this year. I just hope he doesn't let himself or anyone else fall back into the same mindset when times get rough in games or at practice. Mindset and confidence is built in practice and easily destroyed during games. They can't let bad plays or losses bring them down. Take their lumps and keep going.

UNT90 · August 22, 2016

Well, step one of my "bold prediction" appears to be progressing nicely

Let's hope UNT avoids step two.

GMG24 · August 23, 2016

2 hours ago, UNT90 said:

Well, step one of my "bold prediction" appears to be progressing nicely

Let's hope UNT avoids step two.

Care to outline again? I've been busy w/ football

UNT90 · August 23, 2016

12 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

Care to outline again? I've been busy w/ football

Aldo was asking for bold predictions. I predicted Fine wins the backup job and becomes a starter after Morris is injured in the annual whore game. Fine struggles to adjust to the speed of the college game the rest of the year and UNT goes 2-10, with Fine winning one of those games.

BUT, Fine wins the starting job in 2017 and leads UNT to a 7-5 record while earning 3rd team all conference as a true sophomore.

Again, Aldo asked for bold. I don't trust this O line. I hope and pray Morris stays healthy, but I think he is going to run for his life A LOT the first 3 games of the year.

Edited August 23, 2016 by UNT90

GMG24 · August 23, 2016

1 minute ago, UNT90 said:

Also was asking for bold predictions. I predicted Fine wins the backup job and becomes a starter after Morris is injured in the annual whore game. Fine struggles to adjust to the speed of the college game the rest of the year and UNT goes 2-10, with Fine winning one of those games.

BUT, Fine wins the starting job in 2017 and leads UNT to a 7-5 record while earning 3rd team all conference as a true sophomore.

Again, Aldo asked for bold. I don't trust this O line. I hope and pray Morris stays healthy, but I think he is going to run for his life A LOT the first 3 games of the year.

If that's the case, screen game, running game, and quick game better be on point. Lol

UNTGuy5 · August 23, 2016

18 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

I like it. I like hearing what Goree says about last year compared to this year. I just hope he doesn't let himself or anyone else fall back into the same mindset when times get rough in games or at practice. Mindset and confidence is built in practice and easily destroyed during games. They can't let bad plays or losses bring them down. Take their lumps and keep going.

The WRs probably didn't feel like being out there last year because Mac didn't like to throw the ball, and there wasn't a QB on the roster that could do it anyhow. I'd probably want to stay home too.

GreenTexan13 · August 23, 2016

15 hours ago, UNT90 said:

Aldo was asking for bold predictions. I predicted Fine wins the backup job and becomes a starter after Morris is injured in the annual whore game. Fine struggles to adjust to the speed of the college game the rest of the year and UNT goes 2-10, with Fine winning one of those games.

BUT, Fine wins the starting job in 2017 and leads UNT to a 7-5 record while earning 3rd team all conference as a true sophomore.

Again, Aldo asked for bold. I don't trust this O line. I hope and pray Morris stays healthy, but I think he is going to run for his life A LOT the first 3 games of the year.

What makes you think Morris will get hurt?

Mean Green 93-98 · August 23, 2016

If Barr is ready to start some games at center, it seems like he ought to be ready to start all games at center. I've been a little perplexed with the Sam Rice at center experiment.

Tyler Maryak · August 23, 2016

A little bit of a tangent here, but Alec Morris handled the media really well, IMO:

http://www.meangreensports.com/collegesportslive/?media=535215

UNT90 · August 23, 2016

17 minutes ago, GreenTexan13 said:

What makes you think Morris will get hurt?

The quality and depth of the Oline.

Remember, Aldo asked for a bold prediction.

Cr1028 · August 23, 2016

12 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

The quality and depth of the Oline.

Remember, Aldo asked for a bold prediction.

But how would you keep Fine from getting hurt once he came in since Morris outweighs him by 63lbs?

UNT90 · August 23, 2016

15 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

But how would you keep Fine from getting hurt once he came in since Morris outweighs him by 63lbs?

Mobility.

Again, Aldo asked for a bold prediction.

Also, injuries can happen to any size player. DT was about Morris's size, yet went down for the year with a broken hip against Army (??).

A mobile QB has a better shot with this line. Also, Morris and DT also compare pretty equally where mobility is concerned.

Edited August 23, 2016 by UNT90

UNTcrazy727 · August 23, 2016

2 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Mobility.

Again, Aldo asked for a bold prediction.

Also, injuries can happen to any size player. DT was about Morris's size, yet went down for the year with a broken hip against Army (??).

A mobile QB has a better shot with this line. Also, Morris and DT also compare pretty equally where mobility is concerned.

Morris is noticeably bigger than DT was, but all it takes is one bad hit.

Ben Gooding · August 23, 2016

22 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Mobility.

Again, Aldo asked for a bold prediction.

Also, injuries can happen to any size player. DT was about Morris's size, yet went down for the year with a broken hip against Army (??).

A mobile QB has a better shot with this line. Also, Morris and DT also compare pretty equally where mobility is concerned.

Morris is bigger and more mobile. Neither are in question.

Mean_Green09 · August 23, 2016

1 hour ago, UNT90 said:

Mobility.

Again, Aldo asked for a bold prediction.

Also, injuries can happen to any size player. DT was about Morris's size, yet went down for the year with a broken hip against Army (??).

A mobile QB has a better shot with this line. Also, Morris and DT also compare pretty equally where mobility is concerned.

Not saying you're wrong about the OL bc I believe they are the weak point. However DT and Morris played in two different offenses. Morris will throw more but should benefit from the fact that the ball will come out quicker. There won't be as many long developing routes. Still OL is very shaky and I have concerns too

TreeFiddy · August 23, 2016

2 hours ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

Morris is noticeably bigger than DT was, but all it takes is one bad hit.

Yep. Romo's collar bone is connected to a 6-2 230 pound frame. Didn't keep him from getting hurt. Injuries can happen to anyone.

TheReal_jayD · August 23, 2016

5 minutes ago, TreeFiddy said:

Yep. Romo's collar bone is connected to a 6-2 230 pound frame. Didn't keep him from getting hurt. Injuries can happen to anyone.

Yep totally agree. See Big Ben..

MeanGreenTexan · August 23, 2016

13 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Yep totally agree. See Big Ben..

Yeah, but does anyone see Jared Lorenzen injured?

jared-lorenzen-touchdown_4970715_gifsoup

Edited August 23, 2016 by MeanGreenTexan

97and03 · August 23, 2016

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Yeah, but does anyone see Jared Lorenzen injured?

Btw, his leg was broken the next game...

TreeFiddy · August 23, 2016

Big tree falls hard, and typically ugly.

forevereagle · August 23, 2016

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Yeah, but does anyone see Jared Lorenzen injured?

He blocks for himself.

UNT90 · August 23, 2016

5 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

Morris is bigger and more mobile. Neither are in question.

Actually, they both are. ?

Morris is listed by 24/7 as 6'3" 233lbs. Thompson was listed as a junior as 6'4" 218 pounds.

I'd bet DT was actually more mobile than Morris.

Edited August 23, 2016 by UNT90

Aldo · August 24, 2016

23 hours ago, UNT90 said:

The quality and depth of the Oline.

Remember, Aldo asked for a bold prediction.

Hey now, don't drag me into this. Bold prediction thread is a safe space. Once you leave that safe space you gotta back it up. Like this:

21 hours ago, Mean_Green09 said:

Not saying you're wrong about the OL bc I believe they are the weak point. However DT and Morris played in two different offenses. Morris will throw more but should benefit from the fact that the ball will come out quicker. There won't be as many long developing routes. Still OL is very shaky and I have concerns too

UNT90 · August 24, 2016

6 minutes ago, Aldo said:

Hey now, don't drag me into this. Bold prediction thread is a safe space. Once you leave that safe space you gotta back it up. Like this:

Well then, it's great to think that quick hitting routes will help the QB, until you realize this:

Once defenses figure out that the OL can't stop the pass rush, get ready for press coverage EVERY DOWN. That means zero space between receiver and DB. That means forcing the QB to read and react with a pass rush 2 seconds away. You can claim that this offense will do this and that, but defenses adjust to offensive weakness. I expect teams to dare is to throw deep, starting with SMU in the first quarter. The fact that Morris doesn't throw a great deep ball will also factor into this defensive decision.

If I'm the opposing team DC, I'm bringing the heat on the pass rush, whether that's 4, 5, or 6 guys. I'm forcing a QB with no experience to beat me and to beat me with minimal time to throw.