We should listen to Gary Patterson

[Harry]

He speaks about investing in your program and playing out West:

The coach noted the renovations on Amon G. Carter Stadium were already underway. The $105 million improvements started after TCU beat San Diego State in 2010, the year the Frogs won the Rose Bowl and finished second in the final Associated Press poll.

That was still when TCU was in the Mountain West Conference. Patterson recalled getting home from West Coast conference games halfway through the morning and then practicing later that day.

He'd like to leave those late nights in the past.

"I would prefer not to have to get home at 6 o'clock in the morning like they used to do in the WAC [Western Athletic Conference] and the Mountain West," Patterson said.

read more:. http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2016/08/03/gary-patterson-expanding-big-12-conferences-job-make-university-better

[UNT90]

If getting home late means better things for the UNT athletic program, I'm all for it.

UNT would be f'n crazy to pass up an opportunity to be a part of the MWC. 

[golfingomez]

 

[untjim1995]

13 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

If getting home late means better things for the UNT athletic program, I'm all for it.

UNT would be f'n crazy to pass up an opportunity to be a part of the MWC. 

I've been saying this for years. It doesn't really matter now--we aren't going out there for two reasons:

1. The MWC ain't inviting us anytime soon.

2. Our fans don't want to go there. They want to play in CUSA against regional teams. I think it's a gigantic mistake, but not much you can do but accept it. Same with how they accepted SMU as a premier home opponent at Apogee.

[baberuthbomber8]

Can we all agree we would love to see SL become our Gary Patterson, someone who takes us from nothing to one of the best football conferences and stays the entire time..

[UNT90]

2 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

I've been saying this for years. It doesn't really matter now--we aren't going out there for two reasons:

1. The MWC ain't inviting us anytime soon.

2. Our fans don't want to go there. They want to play in CUSA against regional teams. I think it's a gigantic mistake, but not much you can do but accept it. Same with how they accepted SMU as a premier home opponent at Apogee.

Different athletic director.

Things have changed. If the backward RV lovers want to stay put, it isn't going to matter. 

I hope.

This isn't the same CUSA UNT joined, and UNT should be looking to better themselves as an athletic program, not to cowtow to donors who don't like west coast games. 

Hopefully these days are behind UNT.

[UNTLifer]

14 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

I've been saying this for years. It doesn't really matter now--we aren't going out there for two reasons:

1. The MWC ain't inviting us anytime soon.

2. Our fans don't want to go there. They want to play in CUSA against regional teams. I think it's a gigantic mistake, but not much you can do but accept it. Same with how they accepted SMU as a premier home opponent at Apogee.

 

1. Probably correct.

2.  The only way our fans will keep us out of a conference is by not supporting the team via attendance and donations.  The conferences don't poll the fans to see what they want.

[meangreendork]

MWC has the clout that CUSA doesn't have - the smart move is to go to the MWC if the AAC won't take us, if at all possible.

[DeepGreen]

If we tried really, really hard to get into the MWC I would double my contributions to the UNT football program.  I have felt this way regarding the MAC ever since CUSA lost Tulane, Tulsa, etc., and brought in FIU and FAU.

[Aldo]

4 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

If we tried really, really hard to get into the MWC I would double my contributions to the UNT football program. 

We need to get serious about basketball, too.

[Army of Dad]

1 hour ago, Aldo said:

We need to get serious about basketball, too.

Not gonna happen until next year at the earliest.

Edited August 4, 2016 by Army of Dad

[Grant.UNT]

I'm not sure I care what conference we're in as long as we are winning, but it's a hard to sell with a single win last year. If we aren't dominating in CUSA then why would any other conference want us? I love the fact that we play teams that are geographically close to us. 

[DeepGreen]

I think this all depends on the overall goals of our athletic programs.  If our goal is to dominate CUSA, have relatively regional foes, so be it.  I just think that our goal should be to belong to a higher level conference that what we presently have in CUSA.  And there is a chance that CUSA and the AAC will be diminished even further.  The MAC on the other hand seems solid in football as well as basketball.

[greenminer]

2 hours ago, baberuthbomber8 said:

Can we all agree we would love to see SL become our Gary Patterson, someone who takes us from nothing to one of the best football conferences and stays the entire time..

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[golfingomez]

27 minutes ago, greenminer said:

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Patterson was at least on staff, though, right? plus, TCU was never as bad as UNT was when Franchione took over... this is a failed analogy...

[greenminer]

@golfingomez not making an analogy, nor am I trying to diminish Patterson's role.  Just wondering why people are so quick to dismiss what Franchione did, both in FW and ABQ. 

I think Patterson was a part of the UNM and TCU turnarounds but not the mastermind behind it.  It also didn't hurt to have Urlacher and LT.

[TreeFiddy]

6 hours ago, greenminer said:

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And to think that a lot of people wanted him to coach our basketball team. 

[MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF]

18 hours ago, greenminer said:

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They forget about him because he jumped the shark - twice:  to Alabama, then A&M.  Did have one 10-win season at Bama.  A&M record tanked him. 

Patterson just had a longer success at one place.  Each place Fran left felt that he burned them in some way - either leaving too soon or not living up to the hype.