Very Quiet Concerning AD Search

meangreenbob · July 12, 2016

Feeling a little uneasy about the lack of any news concerning the search for a new AD. No short list?

UNT90 · July 12, 2016

Well, we will know soon. Smatresk wants a new AD this month.

If it's Hank, lots of "see yas" in the immediate future.

UNT Mean Green · July 12, 2016

I wonder if the Athletic Department audit conducted by Trip and Sicuro is complete and submitted to the President yet? You can certainly bet that there won't be any hiring done until this part is completed.

With that being said, 90, wouldn't you think that the department audit's findings would find a lot of glaring holes or places for opportunities? Consequently the 2nd guy in command wouldn't be considered to lead things forward in a new direction, right? Isn't that good business, and in reality, isn't the Athletic Department essentially a $35,000,000ish business? I think that's how I'd look at it, given that these two gentlemen are business leaders.

Edited July 12, 2016 by UNT Mean Green

TreeFiddy · July 12, 2016

The consultants said that the audit will not be finished and the final summary sent to Smatresk until sometime around August/September. I can't remember exact date, but definitely was not anytime during July. However, they said they would have some preliminary findings/notes that they would share before the final version.

UNT90 · July 12, 2016

19 minutes ago, TreeFiddy said:

The consultants said that the audit will not be finished and the final summary sent to Smatresk until sometime around August/September. I can't remember exact date, but definitely was not anytime during July. However, they said they would have some preliminary findings/notes that they would share before the final version.

They said Smatresk wanted an AD hire in July. Said it plain as day.

southsideguy · July 12, 2016

they want to kill the program this is the way to do it

Eagle-96 · July 12, 2016

I think the search committee is keeping things under wraps and that is part of what they are paid to do. ADs from smaller schools and assistant ADs on our level probably don't want their names out there in a search. I wouldn't read anything into the fact that we haven't heard any names on a short list. We will all know soon enough.

UNT Mean Green · July 12, 2016

12 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

They said Smatresk wanted an AD hire in July. Said it plain as day.

That is correct.

MeanGreenTexan · July 12, 2016

14 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

They said Smatresk wanted an AD hire in July. Said it plain as day.

I'd rather they take their time and find the right guy, than rush the hire to just get him here in July. I'm betting Smatresk agrees. Maybe he was being too aggressive with that original timeframe and has since conceded it wont be that soon.

Eagle-96 · July 12, 2016

30 minutes ago, TreeFiddy said:

The consultants said that the audit will not be finished and the final summary sent to Smatresk until sometime around August/September. I can't remember exact date, but definitely was not anytime during July. However, they said they would have some preliminary findings/notes that they would share before the final version.

I don't think it is vital to have the audit/summary complete to choose the new AD. I think the summary may be more along the lines of coming up with a laundry list of things for the new AD to fix. I also remember the July time-frame mentioned by Smatty.

UNT90 · July 12, 2016

3 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I'd rather they take their time and find the right guy, than rush the hire to just get him here in July. I'm betting Smatresk agrees. Maybe he was being too aggressive with that original timeframe and has since conceded it wont be that soon.

Just telling what Trip Keune and Sicuro told the audience at the meeting.

I don't think they would make that statement if the time frame wasnt Rock solid. They know the issues of the constant lying to this fan base by the last AD.

Edited July 12, 2016 by UNT90

MeanGreenTexan · July 12, 2016

1 minute ago, UNT90 said:

Just telling what Trip Keune and Sicuro told the audience at the meeting.

I don't think they would make that statement if the time frame wasnt Rock solid. They know the issues of the constant lying to this fan base.

Was the statement: "we/pres. Smatresk WOULD LIKE TO HAVE the hire in place by mid-late July"?

or was it: "we/pres. Smatresk WILL DEFINITELY HAVE the hire in place by mid-late July"?

Huge difference, and one of the two statements should not be considered "lying to the fan base".

Ryan Munthe · July 12, 2016

Take the time to make the right hire, and don't go public with the search. Don't need a circus, nor to hastily pick our AD.

UNT90 · July 12, 2016

As I recall, it was a pretty definite statement. Something along the lines of "wants it done in July."

I also don't think either Keune or Sicuro goes anywhere near a date if the weren't certain about the time frame.

Keep in mind this search has most likely been going on since April. The audit began in May.

Wag Tag · July 12, 2016

8 minutes ago, Eagle-96 said:

I don't think it is vital to have the audit/summary complete to choose the new AD. I think the summary may be more along the lines of coming up with a laundry list of things for the new AD to fix. I also remember the July time-frame mentioned by Smatty.

The potential AD may want before he accepts or declines.

UNT90 · July 12, 2016

The fact that you aren't hearing list or rumors means members of the AD have been cut completely out of the process.

Thank God for that.

Wag Tag · July 12, 2016

5 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Was the statement: "we/pres. Smatresk WOULD LIKE TO HAVE the hire in place by mid-late July"?

or was it: "we/pres. Smatresk WILL DEFINITELY HAVE the hire in place by mid-late July"?

Huge difference, and one of the two statements should not be considered "lying to the fan base".

Is there a dead date for an AD to be hired? I don't think so. Maybe before the start of school?

Tyler Maryak · July 12, 2016

1 hour ago, meangreenbob said:

Feeling a little uneasy about the lack of any news concerning the search for a new AD. No short list?

A +1 for you simply for being able to spell "quiet" correctly. That's a rare occurrence these days...

MeanGreen01 · July 12, 2016

I agree, Hank maybe a great guy but shouldn't be AD and run our athletic dept.. We really need someone with fresh ideas. Obviously the ones in the past weren't working.

NorthTexan95 · July 12, 2016

Smatresk wants someone hired in July though they may not start in July if it's late enough in the month. However, it's only July 12th so plenty of time to make the right decision. I like that it's being kept quiet.

TreeFiddy · July 12, 2016

The question above I was responding to wasn't regarding when the hire would be made. The question I was responding to was when the audit was going to be completed and submitted.

As far as the hire goes, I recall Trip saying something along the lines of hoping to have something done by July 15th, but don't recall he said anything about a drop dead time frame. I also remember Trip saying that he and Sicuro were not making the hire or performing the search. The search/screening/interview process was being handled by the search firm and that Smatresk and Ryan would be the primary decision makers. At least that's what I remember. Slept since then though.

Edited July 12, 2016 by TreeFiddy

DeepGreen · July 12, 2016

Let them take their time to make the right hire. UNT needs right the ship this go around. To me, the athletic program, the three major sports, are on the cusp of moving forward successfully or being eliminated altogether.

VideoEagle · July 12, 2016

The audit and the AD search are two separate things. I would think a complete financial and procedural audit of the athletic department would take longer than the search for a new athletic director, but I'm not certain about that. I would also think the results of the audit are for both the administration AND the new AD to figure out where best to start. We can all make our guesses, but an audit should give tangible proof of where to go.

The timing of RV's removal implies a desire to get things done over the summer when less athletic activity is going on. There is no time when there is none - at least there SHOULDN'T be. School starts again in August so planning for the new AD to be hired in July makes sense. That's not rushing things, that's getting the replacement in place during the period when the fewest decisions need to be made.

Frankly I'd be far more worried about the process is there WERE announcements as that would show the process has been compromised.

oldguystudent · July 12, 2016

I'd much rather things be quiet and thorough than past coaching searches that bandied about impossible names and frivolous rumors.

VideoEagle · July 12, 2016

13 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:

I'd much rather things be quiet and thorough than past coaching searches that bandied about impossible names and frivolous rumors.

From your lips to Smatresk's ears!