Dishonesty

[UNT90]

http://m.meangreensports.com/m/sports/mg-club/spec-rel/062016aac.html

This. This is the type of dishonesty that needs to stop coming out of the mouths of those employed by the AD. It's fine to give the former AD credit for facilities, but to blatantly and intentionally ignore the first failed vote for an athletic fee and then not even mention the student leadership role in actually getting the athletic fee passed that led to the stadium is just outright dishonest. And this isn't an article oked by RV. This has today's date, meaning this is the type of crap we can expect from Hank Dickenson.

Be honest with your fans. It really isn't hard, North Texas Athletic Department. 

[EagleMBA]

There is definitely something fishy about the author of that piece.

PS - That fish is a Northern Pike...get it?

Edited June 21, 2016 by EagleMBA

[HoustonEagle]

 

@UNT90get over yourself. 

This is not a zero sum game.  It is possible to respect a man for his accomplishments even after his being fired for his deficiencies. 

You yourself were singing his praises not that many years ago.  Should I label you a flip-flopper?  

 

[UNT90]

22 minutes ago, HoustonEagle said:

 

@UNT90get over yourself. 

This is not a zero sum game.  It is possible to respect a man for his accomplishments even after his being fired for his deficiencies. 

You yourself were singing his praises not that many years ago.  Should I label you a flip-flopper?  

 

Only truly stupid people refuse to change their opinion when presented with evidence that shows their opinion is invalid. 

I have no problem giving the former AD credit for HIS TRUE ROLE  in facility development. Being dishonest on the very first day RV has left the building isn't what anyone in this athletic department should be doing, but I'm beginning to wonder if that's the only thing they know how to do. 

 

[Harry]

I thought this was a well written article and very fair.  This was written by a very long term, devout Mean Green fan who happens to work for the athletic department.  I saw honesty in what he wrote.   Stomping on epitaphs is unbecoming, unnecessary.  We're all frustrated about the place we are right now but we are in a better position than we have been before.  Time to move on.

[UNT90]

7 minutes ago, Harry said:

I thought this was a well written article and very fair.  This was written by a very long term, devout Mean Green fan who happens to work for the athletic department.  I saw honesty in what he wrote.   Stomping on epitaphs is unbecoming, unnecessary.  We're all frustrated about the place we are right now but we are in a better position than we have been before.  Time to move on.

I agree. I wish the writer had felt the same way.

Edited June 21, 2016 by UNT90

[North Texas Shep]

If our guys still played in Fouts and they were winning consistently, then I would be happier (With that being said... I love Apogee and it is awesome). Plus, how much did RV have to do with the stadium? Any AD out there would have been tried to get a damn stadium. I really want someone to tell me why he gets so much credit for it. Was it really just his magic that got it done?

[UNT90]

3 hours ago, North Texas Shep said:

If our guys still played in Fouts and they were winning consistently, then I would be happier (With that being said... I love Apogee and it is awesome). Plus, how much did RV have to do with the stadium? Any AD out there would have been tried to get a damn stadium. I really want someone to tell me why he gets so much credit for it. Was it really just his magic that got it done?

Actually him staying the hell away from the vote is what got it done. I don't care if you acknowledge that and give him credit for being smart enough to realize the culture at UNT, but don't completely ignore the fact that the student government and people like @UNTflyer made HUGE contributions to getting it done. And don't ignore the fact that RV tried and failed once previously to get t done. This fan base has been lied to enough. We certainly don't need someone trying to pump up the legacy of the man who did nothing with the facilities that he HELPED build. 

[Huff]

I agree with Harry.   There is good and bad about Rick.   Let's move forward and support the next Athletic Director...... whoever that may be.

[UNT90]

I think some of you need to be reminded that there is a second phase to this situation that is just as important as the first stage. 

Staying quiet may yield you new AD Hank Dickenson.. 

[Mean_Green09]

4 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

 Staying quiet may yield you new AD Hank Dickenson.. 

Now this funny. 

Quiet or loud it wont matter what the fan base does. They will hire who they want to hire. You could fly a banner or buy ads. It wont matter.  

[Quoner]

16 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

I think some of you need to be reminded that there is a second phase to this situation that is just as important as the first stage. 

Staying quiet may yield you new AD Hank Dickenson.. 

Always a mythical, important internet quest to complete. The fate of the kingdom again hangs in the balance. Will the one true warrior again takes up his sword and keyboard to deliver us all?

[emmitt01]

16 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:

Now this funny. 

Quiet or loud it wont matter what the fan base does. They will hire who they want to hire. You could fly a banner or buy ads. It wont matter.  

You take that back!  Banners work damnit!!!

[UNT90]

1 hour ago, Mean_Green09 said:

Now this funny. 

Quiet or loud it wont matter what the fan base does. They will hire who they want to hire. You could fly a banner or buy ads. It wont matter.  

That's what people said when the banner flew.

I won't argue the point. People in power are a lot more cognizant of what is said in this board than you realize. But I'm not just talking about this board. People should be contacting Pres. Smatresk directly and expressing their opinion. 

I have. Have you?

1 hour ago, Quoner said:

Always a mythical, important internet quest to complete. The fate of the kingdom again hangs in the balance. Will the one true warrior again takes up his sword and keyboard to deliver us all?

We all have our roles, don't we court jester? ?

[UNT90]

1 hour ago, emmitt01 said:

You take that back!  Banners work damnit!!!

 

[NTAlum09]

12 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

 

Gin Blossoms are playing in Allen this Saturday for the firework show FYI

[UNT90]

Just now, NTAlum09 said:

Gin Blossoms are playing in Allen this Saturday for the firework show FYI

Emmitt will either be there or the SMU fireworks display... ?

[Quoner]

47 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

We all have our roles, don't we court jester? ?

Sure do!

[VideoEagle]

5 minutes ago, Quoner said:

Sure do!

There are times you need to be able to give more than just one + !

[UNT90]

1 hour ago, Quoner said:

Sure do!

Dance for me! 

[Cr1028]

7 hours ago, UNT90 said:

Actually him staying the hell away from the vote is what got it done. I don't care if you acknowledge that and give him credit for being smart enough to realize the culture at UNT, but don't completely ignore the fact that the student government and people like @UNTflyer made HUGE contributions to getting it done. And don't ignore the fact that RV tried and failed once previously to get t done. This fan base has been lied to enough. We certainly don't need someone trying to pump up the legacy of the man who did nothing with the facilities that he HELPED build. 

I think the article is fair, it clearly states at the beginning that he had a horrible record in 2 of the 3 major sports which was your major gripe with the man. You are acting as if he had absolutely no role in facilities improvements. He did. 

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No, no, no, no, never, never, never, never!!!!!!!!

 

Anyone that judges coaching hires by anything but results just doesn't get it. Results have been terrible in major sports hires 3 times, with the possibility of a 4th (depending on how the football season turns out). Results are important, at least to a few of us.

 

RV has been great with facilities, but be honest about his failures. Coaching hires have been, well, far below average, and that is being nice

 

Edited June 21, 2016 by Cr1028

[UNT90]

21 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

I think the article is fair, it clearly states at the beginning that he had a horrible record in 2 of the 3 major sports which was your major gripe with the man. You are acting as if he had absolutely no role in facilities improvements. He did. 

 

Hardly how I'm acting. They give him complete credit for the stadium. That's horse manure. 

[Mean_Green09]

3 hours ago, UNT90 said:

That's what people said when the banner flew.

I won't argue the point. People in power are a lot more cognizant of what is said in this board than you realize. But I'm not just talking about this board. People should be contacting Pres. Smatresk directly and expressing their opinion. 

I have. Have you?

 

My comments are banned from the President's office. Blacklisted for life

Those people that are cognizant of this fanatical fan forum are probably a large reason why we fail so much then. 

[UNT 90 Grad]

5 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

You take that back!  Banners work damnit!!!

Didn't win us the SMU game last year.  This board is 1-1 with banners.  Jury is still out.  

 

;-)

Edited June 21, 2016 by UNT 90 Grad

[UNT90]

5 minutes ago, UNT 90 Grad said:

Didn't win us the SMU game last year.  This board is 1-1 with banners.  Jury is still out.  

 

;-)

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