Jump to content

The reason I want a quarterback competition and not just have the job handed to someone

Cr1028

By Cr1028
in Mean Green Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

MeanGreenTexan Grand Master

MeanGreenTexan

Posted
Posted

You would really think Pittsburgh should open up a QB competition between Rothlisberger & Gradkowski?   Rothlisberger has had several years to prove himself, and he has.  Hence, there's no QB competition there.   

We don't have that luxury here at NT.  So we have to trust the coaches' evaluations.

  • Downvote 2
foutsrouts Newbie

foutsrouts

Posted
Posted
38 minutes ago, GreenTexan13 said:

Why would the job be handed to someone? what indicates that this will happen?

To me, Harrell's comments seem to indicate that Morris is the man, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's the final word on the subject. No telling what was said/promised before he transferred.

FirefightnRick Experienced

FirefightnRick

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, foutsrouts said:

To me, Harrell's comments seem to indicate that Morris is the man, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's the final word on the subject. 

That's why I predict that it'll take till the third game for O'Hara to start.

 

Rick

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 5
Cr1028 Grand Master

Cr1028

Posted
  • Author
Posted
18 hours ago, baberuthbomber8 said:

I don't think the job will be handed to Morris, I would just assume even if its a tie between morris and someone, Morris gets the job because it will help sale the program to other grad-transfer that we will need in 2017 possibly.

I just don't want to become grad-transfer U permanently. I want us to grow a quality young quarterback similar to DT but better.

  • Upvote 2
MeanGreenTexan Grand Master

MeanGreenTexan

Posted
Posted
8 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

I just don't want to become grad-transfer U permanently. I want us to grow a quality young quarterback similar to DT but better.

If it means we win a-la LATech, I don't care.   We're about to find out if having 2 years worth of grad transfers while Mullens developed works.

  • Upvote 1
SilverEagle Mentor

SilverEagle

Posted
Posted (edited)

The QB grad transfer system has two parts.

!. A "viable" transfer who has previously demonstrated his QB skills, and 

2. a coach who can quickly coach them to work in his system.

Keep in mind that  "quickly" was traditionally never a word used in association with QB development.

Edited by SilverEagle
GrandGreen Grand Master

GrandGreen

Posted
Posted

I can guarantee that NT will have a QB competition just like ever other position.  

I find it difficult to believe that so many are upset about a QB decision that has not even been made at this point.  Why would anyone think that a new staff with an offense built around the QB, would overlook the best player at that position? 

 

  • Upvote 1
Aldo Rookie

Aldo

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:

I just don't want to become grad-transfer U permanently. I want us to grow a quality young quarterback similar to DT but better.

I agree, but it's temporary necessity when you have such glaring roster holes.

A couple of transitional years while you rebuild your roster through HS recruits and develop them to startable players is ok.

After that, you've got to demonstrate the ability to recruit and develop.

  • Upvote 2
baberuthbomber8 Newbie

baberuthbomber8

Posted
Posted
22 minutes ago, Aldo said:

I agree, but it's temporary necessity when you have such glaring roster holes.

A couple of transitional years while you rebuild your roster through HS recruits and develop them to startable players is ok.

After that, you've got to demonstrate the ability to recruit and develop.

Agreed, transfer U till we get the right kids and they can grow

Cerebus Experienced

Cerebus

Posted
Posted
28 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

I find it difficult to believe that so many are upset about a QB decision that has not even been made at this point.  

If we had baseball we could argue about that instead, but since we have nothing else to complain about...

  • Upvote 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Tell a friend

    Love GoMeanGreen.com? Tell a friend!

  • What's going on Mean Green?

    1. 3

      True Freshmen Receiving Seasons - Coleman, Sides, Young

      Every transfer was once a HS recruit at their first school. It seems to me like most transfers are guys who did not succeed at their first stop and transfered seeking playing time. Does that seem consistent with your observations? I'm wondering if getting good HS recruits AND giving them early playing time is the right formula to getting those guys to stay an extra year or two and ultimately building up a good roster for a special run.
      GMG_Dallas in Mean Green Football
    2. 53

      So sick of the crap this football program slings us

      My LSU buddies were talking about what we witnessed on Friday 24 hours later. As the story of DM kept unfolding on espn my friends marveled at what we had just seen. They had never ever seen that before. Didn’t think it was possible. To walk into a top tier college football game after 2 weeks of prep and ball out. It was a fun watch. He stated, “North Texas would not die.” I’ll take that fight every day. And yes I did think we were going to get blown out. I invited two alums for the Friday afternoon affair and they couldn’t be bothered. Showed zero interest. But I took 2 SEC diehards and there they were having fun supporting our Mean Green. I’m not giddy about the loss. Rather I believe there will be lots of fireworks and cannon fodder in a few short months in DATCU. Analyze everything. Every win every loss every missed opportunity every rarity. GMG
      • 3
      • Upvote
      NM Green in Mean Green Football
    3. 307

      UNT vs Texas State BOWL GAME THREAD!!

      The first few on the list are situational dependent, so I will address the last two points. You don’t think it is problematic that our backup all season was a walk on that didn’t start in high school? I sure do given that they brought in Tisdale from TCU, a Juco, and a scholarship freshman who were not better. Maybe that speaks to their ability to spot a diamond in the rough walk on, but isn’t it also an indictment of the lack of evaluation of the other three recruits? On the final point. Yes, they were asking too much from the QB in his first start since ninth grade! For a hundred years coaches have simplified the playbook and leaned on the running game when the inexperienced backup quarterback comes in. Suddenly, Morris is smarter than all coaches in history and decides that this kid should attempt around 45 passes (41 attempts plus plays that ended up as scrambles/sacks). Completely out the game in the hands of an inexperienced 18 year old. He exceeded our expectations but of course the player is going to have turnovers! Some have said the first INT isn’t on the qb and I could agree with that. It was another stupid WR screen (that we all hate) that went wrong. So also on Morris. I don’t hide it at all: I don’t believe in Morris. Said this from the beginning. And he has backed up my lack of faith by his actions! No defense for two years, the insane going on fourth down in our own territory in the first quarter, passing up on field goals when we just should take the points, etc. So yes, I hold him accountable for the results on the field.
      • 2
      • Upvote
      • Eye Roll
      97and03 in Mean Green Football
    4. 3

      True Freshmen Receiving Seasons - Coleman, Sides, Young

      Morris has talked about it before but with high school signees there is a much stronger relationship built with them and their families, as well as between them and the University itself. To a high school signee, this is their home and the only college they have ever known. To a transfer portal it’s just the next stop and a chance to bump up their stock for a better NIL/program opportunity. A freshman comes in and has a good season, they’ve successfully taken the first step at UNT in the plan they laid out when they came here. A transfer has a good season here and they’ve gotten what they wanted out of our school and program and typically will leverage it into a better opportunity. In terms of retaining players, you’re gonna have more success with the guys you got out of high school. But even if it’s just for a season, you still take guys who can produce like Morris and DT out of the portal all day. All about finding the right mix now. Definitely agree about the o-line and play calling. Looks like we have some quality help coming to supplement guys like Blair and Nelson. Play calling definitely has room for improvement, especially on those money situations on 3rd down and in the red zone where we weren’t near as highly ranked as our overall offensive statistics were.
      • 1
      • Upvote
      BillySee58 in Mean Green Football
    5. 53

      So sick of the crap this football program slings us

      What if we stopped patting ourselves on the back for being disappointed at the result after losses and see if that works? Maybe that’s what’s holding us back. Being so proud that we don’t accept moral victories instead of actually figuring out how to get real victories. Everyone is always so happy to say they don’t accept moral victories on here when we lose without actually digging into the details to refute the optimism beyond a simplistic statement. Almost every good season we have had in the last 20 years was followed by a losing season. Most of our good seasons were followed up with losing seasons. A lot of our losing streaks were preceded by wins that showed weaknesses that could be exploited by better teams (i.e. FAU this season). Some of our best winning streaks were on the heels of losses where we played tough against a good opponent, like Iowa in 2017. All that to say, it’s not all black and white. We can and should analyze the nuances and details in between. Our HC has done nothing but churn out elite QB play from 3-star and below rated QBs for the last decade as an HC and OC, most recently evidenced by one of the most wild instances many people around college football have ever seen. We hired a DC who had a top 25 defense in the FBS and is bringing 5 starters and 2 more of his backups from that defense with him. There are logical reasons for optimism coming out of this bowl game and acknowledging that doesn’t equate to complacency or prevent us from turning the corner as a program.
      • 6
      • Thanks
      • Upvote
      • Downvote
      • Eye Roll
      BillySee58 in Mean Green Football

  • Popular Contributors

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      15,508
    • Most Online
      1,865
    Jepper
    Newest Member
    Jepper
    Joined

  • Most Points

    1. 1
      El Paso Eagle
      El Paso Eagle
      171,049
    2. 2
      NT80
      NT80
      139,708
    3. 3
      KingDL1
      KingDL1
      132,620
    4. 4
      greenminer
      greenminer
      125,875
    5. 5
      TheReal_jayD
      TheReal_jayD
      109,459

  • Biggest Gamblers

    1. 1
      EdtheEagle
      EdtheEagle
      26,592,647
    2. 2
      UNTLifer
      UNTLifer
      4,482,399
    3. 3
      untphd
      untphd
      842,867
    4. 4
      flyonthewall
      flyonthewall
      671,592
    5. 5
      3_n_out
      3_n_out
      578,480
    6. 6
      SteaminWillieBeamin
    7. 7
      UNT_FH_FR_YR
      UNT_FH_FR_YR
      467,039
    8. 8
      cousin oliver
      cousin oliver
      448,120
    9. 9
      meangreenfaninno
    10. 10
      South Texas Green

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.