Dan Patrick and Bathrooms

[SilverEagle]

41 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:

I think the fracking thing pretty much discredited that notion.

Yeah, the new mantra is "always local control.....unless it potentially endangers our income stream" 

Edited May 22, 2016 by SilverEagle

[SilverEagle]

1 hour ago, UNT90 said:

The same absence that is there from CPS administrators? From the public in general? From juries? From family court judges about half the time? 

"No fair on that one. CPS administrators sounding the alarm are always regarded, and dismissed by everyone, as "bureaucrats looking for more money".  For years they've used a surrogate to sound the alarm for them......such as the state foster parent association president etc.

Any Lt. Gov, regardless of party affiliation, would choke on the monetary amount needed annually to fix CPS.

Only if you left the current policy makers, regarding how to proceed with case management, in place. CPS workers not only drown in increased cases to investigate, but also the paperwork that goes along with it. Over twenty years ago I was conducting an official visit with a couple of foster parents. The husband was a Lt. with Dallas homicide. After the "official" portion of our visit, I asked him a professional question. I said "how much "initial" paperwork is generated by field staff when a officer is involved in a shooting. He thought about it for a minute and said "Oh, about six pages....initially".....and that was for a shooting! I told him that an investigation of abuse/neglect that resulted in it being a "never mind, no one hurt here" by a CPS investigator was over twice that much. CPS knows how to work hard, but they've never known how to work smart.

Instead, the latest solution is to lower requirements to an associate degree. Nothing could go wrong there, right? 

Yeah, if they are going to do that, then all future Police applicants should be exempt from drug screening and should be allowed to have two felonies on their background check. And while we're at it. If they are going to lower the standards for CPS workers, then we should go back to an old tradition of allowing someone to become a lawyer after they have spent a few years "reading the law" and then pass the Bar exam. Who needs law school.....right?

At least Patrick is out front in the fight against yet another avenue to abuse children. It ain't much, and that isn't even his motivation, but that's ok. Whatever gets the job done.

Yeah, I guess insignificant threats are better than no threat at all. Especially when you're in the mood to grandstand. As he always is.

Stop worrying about stupid internet reds and Greens.

Not worried......just annoyed.

 

 

[UNT90]

2 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

 

You say CPS administration isn't the problem, and then say initial paperwork is way overloaded. Administrators are the people making the decisions on that paperwork. They do it because it's an easy out for them if the worker fails to complete an impossible task (absent working 16 hours a day, and they don't get paid overtime on their next check like every other government hourly employee). They can blame it on the 2 year tenured already burned out employee who failed to do the impossible. Blaming the lowest common denominator is what most government entities are really good at. 

 

[SilverEagle]

4 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

You say CPS administration isn't the problem, and then say initial paperwork is way overloaded. Administrators are the people making the decisions on that paperwork. They do it because it's an easy out for them if the worker fails to complete an impossible task (absent working 16 hours a day, and they don't get paid overtime on their next check like every other government hourly employee). They can blame it on the 2 year tenured already burned out employee who failed to do the impossible. Blaming the lowest common denominator is what most government entities are really good at. 

 

Well, you sort of have a point. But my point is that even if a CPS administrator was a "saint", both about child advocacy and work management, they would still be ignored for my reason stated above. 

But yes, most CPS administrators (sounding the alarm or not) would be guilty of being very much a part of the problem by making the situation more crushing for field staff because their solution to most things is "more documentation and paperwork".  Without answering/considering the obvious question.......toward what end? And if the end is "child safety", then how does it (more paper) do that?

[UNT90]

4 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

Well, you sort of have a point. But my point is that even if a CPS administrator was a "saint", both about child advocacy and work management, they would still be ignored for my reason stated above. 

But yes, most CPS administrators (sounding the alarm or not) would be guilty of being very much a part of the problem by making the situation more crushing for field staff because their solution to most things is "more documentation and paperwork".  Without answering/considering the obvious question.......toward what end? And if the end is "child safety", then how does it (more paper) do that?

It truly is a calling, and the reward for it is second guessing and blame placement whenever something goes terribly wrong. 

Workers face termination if a hold dies while one their watch, meanwhile family court judges have probably placed more kids back with parents where the kids have suffered abuse, yet NEVER face consequences for their decisions.

They are politicians, you see. 

[Army of Dad]

21 hours ago, oldguystudent said:

I think the fracking thing pretty much discredited that notion.

 

20 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

Yeah, the new mantra is "always local control.....unless it potentially endangers our income stream" 

There are always items that are reserved to the state level. Oil and gas regulation happens to be one of them, as are drivers licenses, gun laws, any many others.

[Cerebus]

On 5/22/2016 at 10:37 AM, oldguystudent said:

I think the fracking thing pretty much discredited that notion.

The Texas Railroad Commission already had jurisdiction over those laws.  This is exactly what Denton's own legal council said to the city.  They disregarded the advice, cost the city a ton of legal fees, and ended up losing just like the law clearly stated they would.

The State just passed a law to clarify any ambiguities that others might have had, but it was cut and dry from the start.

Also, I think the state legislators have been pretty clear in their "local control" messaging over the years.  They want the state to be the sovereign.  Not the federal level, not the municipal or county level, the state level.  

I'm not saying one should agree with them, but it my eyes it not really a flip flop.  They want the state (who they happen to embody at the moment) to be in power.  

[Censored by Laurie]

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/things-about-bathrooms-actually-worth-getting-upset-over

[foutsrouts]

1 hour ago, Censored by Laurie said:

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/things-about-bathrooms-actually-worth-getting-upset-over

The thought of butch women sitting on urinals isn't very appetizing either.

[Censored by Laurie]

36 minutes ago, foutsrouts said:

The thought of black men using white urinals isn't very appetizing either.

here is a fun game for you. replace every homo/gender-phobic or misogynistic thought that pops into your head with a racist one...just so you have some context as to how history will reflect on your views  

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

Let local schools district deal with the "problem".....   Most schools  likely don't even have one person to deal with... Some  may "think" that way but don't go to school dressed  that way...

As I stated earlier anyone that has a problem with a bathroom could go to a "neutral" non-labeled site like the nurses office or administration area... that includes anyone bullied, disabled,  or not comfortable with any restroom. 

People are making a mountain out of a mole-hill.  The situation is rather rare in schools. 

 

Edited May 24, 2016 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[foutsrouts]

11 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

here is a fun game for you. replace every homo/gender-phobic or misogynistic thought that pops into your head with a racist one...just so you have some context as to how history will reflect on your views  

Ah, an ultra left wing hater who thinks that EVERYTHING from the past was wrong and must be changed at all costs just for the sake of change. Your game is as crystal as your ball. Lighten up.

[Censored by Laurie]

15 hours ago, foutsrouts said:

Ah, an ultra left wing hater who thinks that EVERYTHING from the past was wrong and must be changed at all costs just for the sake of change. Your game is as crystal as your ball. Lighten up.

wow. that's actually not a bad line. 

see...you do know how to wax poetic without coming off like an organhead. you should do that more. 

[foutsrouts]

41 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

Just because I'm an ignoramous who can only resort to ridiculously unsubstantiated personal attacks and impersonations, it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm a hateful and bigoted Marxist. It just often appears that way.  

Hey, at least you're getting close to the truth Laurie. Keep working at it and maybe you'll get there.

[UNTFan23]

I read in an article several days ago and agreed with the statement that the whole Bathroom Dilemma is a "solution looking for a problem."

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

2 hours ago, UNTFan23 said:

I read in an article several days ago and agreed with the statement that the whole Bathroom Dilemma is a "solution looking for a problem."

ABSOLUTELY .... that is about problem #100+  facing schools today... finance, respect (for other students and also teachers), drugs, lack of parental support,  and maybe most important... what to do with disinterested students who are just there because they are made to go and thus cause problems are at the top of the list. 

Edited May 25, 2016 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66