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“Those guys have had 15 days in the system,” Littrell said. “You are not going to be where you need to be after 15 practices, but now they understand the system and can work on their own to get better."

http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/sports-headlines/20160423-football-scrimmage-sees-seven-mean-green-tds.ece

Yes, they can work on their own.  Anybody can.  The question is, will they?  The answer from the 2014 and 2015 squads was a resounding no, they will not work on their own to get better:  especially at QB and WR.

There is no magic coaching fairy dust is what Littrell said there.  The players have to put in the work day in and day out, week in and week out, all through the off-season...or, they'll be finger-pointing losers again in 2016.

 

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I seriously hope Morris/Shanbour take the reigns and work with the backs/receivers as much as possible over the summer. Timing and ball placement are easily the two most important aspects of this passing attack and we could use all the help we can get in those regards

 

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2 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

“Those guys have had 15 days in the system,” Littrell said. “You are not going to be where you need to be after 15 practices, but now they understand the system and can work on their own to get better."

http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/sports-headlines/20160423-football-scrimmage-sees-seven-mean-green-tds.ece

Yes, they can work on their own.  Anybody can.  The question is, will they?  The answer from the 2014 and 2015 squads was a resounding no, they will not work on their own to get better:  especially at QB and WR.

There is no magic coaching fairy dust is what Littrell said there.  The players have to put in the work day in and day out, week in and week out, all through the off-season...or, they'll be finger-pointing losers again in 2016.

 

I believe between Morris and Shanbour they'll have plenty of summer work. There's a reason D. smith is no longer here. Didn't want to put the work in.

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2 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

“Those guys have had 15 days in the system,” Littrell said. “You are not going to be where you need to be after 15 practices, but now they understand the system and can work on their own to get better."

http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/sports-headlines/20160423-football-scrimmage-sees-seven-mean-green-tds.ece

Yes, they can work on their own.  Anybody can.  The question is, will they?  The answer from the 2014 and 2015 squads was a resounding no, they will not work on their own to get better:  especially at QB and WR.

There is no magic coaching fairy dust is what Littrell said there.  The players have to put in the work day in and day out, week in and week out, all through the off-season...or, they'll be finger-pointing losers again in 2016.

 

What makes you think the previous two teams didn't work hard in the off season?  Hard work and talent are two different things.  I bet McNulty worked very hard as did many if not most of the team.   Frankly, players that don't give the proper effort don't last long, and don't think the coaching staff doesn't know who is doing what in the off-season. 

I doubt there are many college players that don't work hard, getting a college scholarship indicates that.  The problem is almost everyone works hard, so those with more talent are still going to be better than those that have less natural ability.

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16 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

What makes you think the previous two teams didn't work hard in the off season?  Hard work and talent are two different things.  I bet McNulty worked very hard as did many if not most of the team.   Frankly, players that don't give the proper effort don't last long, and don't think the coaching staff doesn't know who is doing what in the off-season. 

I doubt there are many college players that don't work hard, getting a college scholarship indicates that.  The problem is almost everyone works hard, so those with more talent are still going to be better than those that have less natural ability.

McNulty didn't spend all summer throwing routes to receivers and going over concepts not PLAYS. Huge reason Rutherford couldn't get on the field too many plays too few concepts. 

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1 hour ago, GMG24 said:

McNulty didn't spend all summer throwing routes to receivers and going over concepts not PLAYS. Huge reason Rutherford couldn't get on the field too many plays too few concepts. 

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If you watched the 2013 and 2014 Beyond the Green,  you would have noticed a different work ethic in the players off time. When they were playing Mario cart together, they were a bong away from giving me flashbacks of high school. Didn't see anything like that in 2013. That squad provided better content for a show about Mean Green football!

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13 minutes ago, SageDaddy said:

If you watched the 2013 and 2014 Beyond the Green,  you would have noticed a different work ethic in the players off time. When they were playing Mario cart together, they were a bong away from giving me flashbacks of high school. Didn't see anything like that in 2013. That squad provided better content for a show about Mean Green football!

So when a team is winning and going to bowl games you have a story line about winning and bowl games you can follow - if you're producing a TV show about the team. (2013)

BUT If you're losing, badly, and often, you have to find a new story line to follow - camaraderie, take attention away from the actual game (that was lost) etc etc. (2014)

Players didn't suddenly discover Mario Cart in 2014. I assure you those MC nights were happening in 2013 as well.

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1 hour ago, adman said:

So when a team is winning and going to bowl games you have a story line about winning and bowl games you can follow - if you're producing a TV show about the team. (2013)

BUT If you're losing, badly, and often, you have to find a new story line to follow - camaraderie, take attention away from the actual game (that was lost) etc etc. (2014)

Players didn't suddenly discover Mario Cart in 2014. I assure you those MC nights were happening in 2013 as well.

Exactly.  The problem wasn't "bongs and Mario kart".  Those were there previously.

The difference was leadership.  The people who made the ship float graduated.  This exposed the coaching leadership flaws.  Enter;  vodka, job security fear (from many) and Blame games.  

Down down down went the ship.  

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5 hours ago, SSP said:

Exactly.  The problem wasn't "bongs and Mario kart".  Those were there previously.

The difference was leadership.  The people who made the ship float graduated.  This exposed the coaching leadership flaws.  Enter;  vodka, job security fear (from many) and Blame games.  

Down down down went the ship.  

But not for the one that needed to be let go the most. That hustler sits in his chair, brown nosing big donors and making them feel important. 

Ship stays on the ocean floor until that guy, the worst AD in college athletics, is gone. 

Good to see you back on here, by the way. 

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15 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

“Those guys have had 15 days in the system,” Littrell said. “You are not going to be where you need to be after 15 practices, but now they understand the system and can work on their own to get better."

http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/sports-headlines/20160423-football-scrimmage-sees-seven-mean-green-tds.ece

Yes, they can work on their own.  Anybody can.  The question is, will they?  The answer from the 2014 and 2015 squads was a resounding no, they will not work on their own to get better:  especially at QB and WR.

There is no magic coaching fairy dust is what Littrell said there.  The players have to put in the work day in and day out, week in and week out, all through the off-season...or, they'll be finger-pointing losers again in 2016.

 

This guy puts in the extra work.

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Valid point. Both in that you have put the best spin on what your working with and MC nights have been around since the N64 was the latest and greatest console of its time. I do want to clarify, I wasn't taking a shot at Beyond the Green for what it put out. But admit I didn't consider your main point when posting. 

Will try and stop dwelling on the past and focus on the future. 

Is Beyond the Green going to be filming the upcoming season?

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On April 25, 2016 at 5:16 PM, MeanGreenMailbox said:

“Those guys have had 15 days in the system,” Littrell said. “You are not going to be where you need to be after 15 practices, but now they understand the system and can work on their own to get better."

http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/sports-headlines/20160423-football-scrimmage-sees-seven-mean-green-tds.ece

Yes, they can work on their own.  Anybody can.  The question is, will they?  The answer from the 2014 and 2015 squads was a resounding no, they will not work on their own to get better:  especially at QB and WR.

There is no magic coaching fairy dust is what Littrell said there.  The players have to put in the work day in and day out, week in and week out, all through the off-season...or, they'll be finger-pointing losers again in 2016.

 

Actually, the most important quote was pre-spring game, when he said UNT didn't have enough depth to have a spring game.

Thats if you listen to what he is telling you.

Carry on.

8 hours ago, SageDaddy said:

Is Beyond the Green going to be filming the upcoming season?

No. The AD thought his department could do it better. Enter the widely loved and cherished perscope videos <sarcasm>. 

No better illustration of what's wrong with UNT (except the football record, basketball record, women's basketball record, coaching hires, football scheduling...)

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