Who will be our backup QB this season?

BillySee58 · March 14, 2016

Assuming all are healthy, playing QB, and still here. Strongly encourage those who choose "other" to discuss what that option may look like.

MeanGreenTexan · March 14, 2016

Still fingers crossed for Dillman to get a crack at it now that we know Smith is gone.

BillySee58 · March 14, 2016

I chose other. Thinking Shanbour possibly, but I think the staff will look hard for someone else than the guys currently listed. I doubt they just settle with the guys we have.

Aldo · March 14, 2016

I think Fine can make an immediate case for being the first backup. Weight don't mean nothin if he is able to prove he can sling it.

I don't think the staff brings someone else in this year. I think they'll use this offseason (read: more time) to bring a HS and another transfer QB for 2017.

UTSA Fan · March 14, 2016

I guess this opens the floor to ask how much time does a qb need to get acclimated enough to be successful?

GMG24 · March 14, 2016

1 hour ago, UTSA Fan said:

I guess this opens the floor to ask how much time does a qb need to get acclimated enough to be successful?

Supposedly they'll have everything installed in 5 days. That's one of the Air Raid (even spinoffs) biggest pushes. It is very easy to learn.

BillySee58 · March 14, 2016

Wow. Looks like people are hopping on @SilverEagle's Quinn Shanbour train

Marty · March 14, 2016

This will be Means 3rd spring practice. He's looked decent in the 2 previous spring games. Hopefully he'll flourish under the new staff.

UTSA Fan · March 15, 2016

1 hour ago, GMG24 said:

Supposedly they'll have everything installed in 5 days. That's one of the Air Raid (even spinoffs) biggest pushes. It is very easy to learn.

What's the critical element for success or failure - timing, reading coverages, etc.?

Ben Gooding · March 15, 2016

10 minutes ago, UTSA Fan said:

What's the critical element for success or failure - timing, reading coverages, etc.?

This and intermediate accuracy.

GMG24 · March 15, 2016

1 hour ago, UTSA Fan said:

What's the critical element for success or failure - timing, reading coverages, etc.?

Reading coverages/ defense to figure out what the best play to put your team in based on what D gives you by alignment. IMO.

Mike Jackson · March 15, 2016

Looking at their high school high light tapes on youtube. Means looks like the slightly better prospect. He played against tougher competitions at 5A I believe also. Given a fresh start and equal time to develop this spring I would be surprised if Quinn shot past him in the depth chart. As pedestrian as DeMarcus was (which says more about the QB in depth chart ahead of him last year), I am very surprised that nether Quinn nor Connor got a shot. As bad as the offense was last year they could have put Dillman out there running the flexibone and I would have commend the coach for at least trying everything.

Of the QBs left on the roster who has the strongest arm?

pastorgrant · March 15, 2016

My guess is Dillman, but it could be any one of several of the guys listed.

GrandGreen · March 15, 2016

8 hours ago, Aldo said:

I think Fine can make an immediate case for being the first backup. Weight don't mean nothin if he is able to prove he can sling it.

I don't think the staff brings someone else in this year. I think they'll use this offseason (read: more time) to bring a HS and another transfer QB for 2017.

Did you see Dodge play?

Aldo · March 15, 2016

10 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Did you see Dodge play?

In 2010 the OL averaged 275 pounds compared to 315 at times this past year and about 319/320 the year before. Not that one set of players is better than the other, but our line is a better size nowadays.

And Dodge was #46 qb rating in 2010.

GrandGreen · March 15, 2016

22 minutes ago, Aldo said:

In 2010 the OL averaged 275 pounds compared to 315 at times this past year and about 319/320 the year before. Not that one set of players is better than the other, but our line is a better size nowadays.

And Dodge was #46 qb rating in 2010.

The OL is better now, but my point is that Dodge who was of similar size of Fine was continually injured. Dodge was also like Fine in that he had incredible accolades, Parade All American, and only had 1 offer to play QB at the FB level.

Travis · March 15, 2016

10 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Did you see Dodge play?

Dodge really couldn't 'sling' it. he was never the same after hurting his shoulder in high school.

Aldo · March 15, 2016

33 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

The OL is better now, but my point is that Dodge who was of similar size of Fine was continually injured. Dodge was also like Fine in that he had incredible accolades, Parade All American, and only had 1 offer to play QB at the FB level.

How much more weight is he really going to gain? If we were afraid of that, then we shouldn't have signed him in the first place.

There are ways to protect the QB from getting hit.

Mean Green 93-98 · March 15, 2016

I have no doubt that Morris will be the starter, but I have no idea who the backup will be. My guess would be something like:

30% chance - Means

25% chance - Fine

20% chance - Shanbour

20% chance - Another player not currently on the roster

2.5% chance - Dillman

2.5% chance - Chumley

foutsrouts · March 15, 2016

2 hours ago, Aldo said:

How much more weight is he really going to gain? If we were afraid of that, then we shouldn't have signed him in the first place.

There are ways to protect the QB from getting hit.

15-20 pounds of weight gain isn't an unreasonable expectation over the next year and a half for a guy his size. If he's as slippery as a bar of soap in a prison shower I guess his current size doesn't matter as much, but if not, things could potentially get pretty ugly without some D1 muscle.

Aldo · March 15, 2016

Just now, foutsrouts said:

15-20 pounds of weight gain isn't an unreasonable expectation over the next year and a half for a guy his size. If he's as slippery as a bar of soap in a prison shower I guess his current size doesn't matter as much, but if not, things could potentially get pretty ugly without some D1 muscle.

But what I've been arguing in a couple threads is that his size shouldn't keep him from seeing the field if he is the best option available.

foutsrouts · March 15, 2016

12 minutes ago, Aldo said:

But what I've been arguing in a couple threads is that his size shouldn't keep him from seeing the field if he is the best option available.

Well, I guess we could think more toward the future and get him prepared enough to live and fight well another day, or we could roll the dice and throw him to the wolves right off the bat. Glad I don't have to make that decision.

Aldo · March 15, 2016

5 minutes ago, foutsrouts said:

Well, I guess we could think more toward the future and get him prepared enough to live and fight well another day, or we could roll the dice and throw him to the wolves right off the bat. Glad I don't have to make that decision.

I would prefer he sit at least 2 years and learn, but that would suggest a pattern of success at recruiting QBs.

Edited March 15, 2016 by Aldo

Cerebus · March 15, 2016

GrandGreen · March 16, 2016

7 hours ago, Aldo said:

How much more weight is he really going to gain? If we were afraid of that, then we shouldn't have signed him in the first place.

There are ways to protect the QB from getting hit.

Other than leaving him on the bench, there are no ways to keep a QB from getting hit. The likelihood of getting hit can be mitigated by quick passes and not running the QB, however not sure that would be much of an offense.