MGB: Benford comments on future, Villarreal declines

Greendylan · March 10, 2016

8 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

Idea: Who cares. Waste the talent and jump start the rebuild. If not, a year from today you and I both know he'll be getting fired regardless. So, why wait.

Again, I agree with this. When I say that I don't want us to waste talent, I mean that we need to have the right person in place to coach said talent. I think it's been satisfactorily proven at this point that our current coach is NOT the right person.

untjim1995 · March 10, 2016

8 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

Idea: Who cares. Waste the talent and jump start the rebuild. If not, a year from today you and I both know he'll be getting fired regardless. So, why wait.

There are $325k reason why they would wait...

Wag Tag · March 10, 2016

7 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

There are $325k reason why they would wait...

Not really when you take into consideration the revenue side. Get a new coach be competitive and you will see a pick up in attendance and $ !

Greendylan · March 10, 2016

1 minute ago, untjim1995 said:

There are $325k reason why they would wait...

Sure, but what happens if Benford finally has enough talent to break through and eek out a modest winning season--somewhere in the ballpark of 17-20 wins? I would be astounded if any prognosticator in the nation predicts much more than that. So, where do we go from there? Do we award a three year contract extension, knowing full well that much of the talent from that roster will be departing and that Benford will have an awfully difficult time replicating that success (assuming he is even able to have one marginally successful year in the first place)? At that point, it will cost the AD far more than $325k, and in essence we'll just be, as others have stated, merely delaying the inevitable.

So, I agree that we have a tendency to be frugal--against all common sense at times. But, in this case, wouldn't the financially responsible move be to cut ties sooner before being almost forced to bloat that contract out to multiple years?

NTAlum09 · March 10, 2016

31 minutes ago, Greendylan said:

Sure, but what happens if Benford finally has enough talent to break through and eek out a modest winning season--somewhere in the ballpark of 17-20 wins? I would be astounded if any prognosticator in the nation predicts much more than that. So, where do we go from there? Do we award a three year contract extension, knowing full well that much of the talent from that roster will be departing and that Benford will have an awfully difficult time replicating that success (assuming he is even able to have one marginally successful year in the first place)? At that point, it will cost the AD far more than $325k, and in essence we'll just be, as others have stated, merely delaying the inevitable.

So, I agree that we have a tendency to be frugal--against all common sense at times. But, in this case, wouldn't the financially responsible move be to cut ties sooner before being almost forced to bloat that contract out to multiple years?

If he get his last year of his contract, he would have to win the CUSA championship in order to keep his job.

The chances are slim and nobody wins in the end.

untjim1995 · March 10, 2016

You all are thinking like real athletic departments do--in terms of potential revenues and opportunity costs...UNT has never run athletics like this--ever. Its all about "known" costs and "known" revenues. Benford should get fired and probably will in the next few days and weeks. But it will be because his contract was deemed "acceptable" to be bought out by somebody, be it the BOR and the UNT 17, who have had to already buyout Petersen's contract and Mac's $2.1 million dollar contract in the last year. The only reason he was never fired before was because it would cost too much. Normally, after the 4th year of a 5-year contract, he would get bought out. But because of the other RV blunders they have had to pay for, its very possible that Benford stay for a 5th year, without an extension. That would be so stupid and short-sighted, but its definitely on the table.

ntmeangreen11 · March 10, 2016

There's no way anyone in their right mind would advocate for Benford coming back next season.

There's also no way RV should still be here so who knows what's going to happen.

Ben Gooding · March 10, 2016

2 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

There are $325k reason why they would wait...

Oh, wow, is that a WHOLE 325K? If we can't buy that out after 4 hot garbage years then we need to drop down to NAIA.

GangGreen · March 10, 2016

3 hours ago, Army of Dad said:

Nor should he comment. As much as I would like his statement to have been something like "I've made a huge mistake and I'm correcting it as soon as we get back to Denton by firing coach Benford" he shouldn't say anything to the media at that point.

His answer should have been short and sweet. "TB is a pussy. NFM."

Cerebus · March 10, 2016

4 hours ago, NTAlum09 said:

RV is the biggest pussy on this planet and didn't have the balls to comment...

Your language has been out of control for awhile. Tone it down or you'll be put on moderated posting.

4 hours ago, NTAlum09 said:

Well I can meet you at the Spring game if you like...just saying

Nevermind. Threats of physical violence get you put on moderated posting.

Army of Dad · March 10, 2016

9 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Your language has been out of control for awhile. Tone it down or you'll be put on moderated posting.

Nevermind. Threats of physical violence get you put on moderated posting.

First they got to Sidway and the Daily, now the 17 got to cerebus...

:ninja face:

Cerebus · March 10, 2016

3 minutes ago, Army of Dad said:

First they got to Sidway and the Daily, now the 17 got to cerebus...

:ninja face:

DRC: Cerebus declines to comment on Army Of Dad's account being deleted

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Denton - When asked about account deletions at GoMeanGreen.com, board moderator Cerebus responded by asking "Brett, how did you get my phone number, is this about the UTSA Graduation photo I posted? I said I was sorry." He then wiped away his tears with a stack of coupons from a local flooring retailer.

Edited March 10, 2016 by Cerebus

Tyler Maryak · March 10, 2016

This whole thread:

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ntmeangreen11 · March 10, 2016

I for one think this forums needs more c bombs, f bombs and a little more T.

Ben Gooding · March 10, 2016

1 hour ago, ntmeangreen11 said:

I for one think this forums needs more c bombs, f bombs and a little more T.

YEAH!

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TheTastyGreek · March 10, 2016

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