Smatresk’s contract extended to 2019

[Army of Dad]

3 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

There's no fighting in here, this is the war room!

[greenminer]

On 3/3/2016 at 4:49 PM, KRAM1 said:

No.  I was serious.  Dr. Smatresk is a winner.  He's the real deal, and has already led UNT to some major improvement since he first came.  He has his priorities in the correct order.  It may not be the order some here on GMG.com might wish they were, but in order they are....his order.  So far, it appears that he has been correct with that order..Tier One, finances in order, donations on the rise, new campus opened in Frisco, new Student Union opened, several new key staff and faculty members hired, etc.  The man is focused on moving UNT forward.  And, he is focused on improving all areas of the university, and in finding the resources necessary to make those improvements. Necessary resources is, of course, key.

[MeanGreenTexan]

On 3/3/2016 at 5:05 PM, UNT90 said:

This is "while the President is still at UNT" KRAM. It'll be a different tune when Smatresk leaves and the new guy shows up. Then Smatresk will be thrown to the wolves and the new guy will be able to do nothing wrong. 

I bet if someone wanted to take the time, you could find a very similiar post about Rawlins shortly after he got here and Gretchen before that. 

I don't know if I've heard him (or anyone else) say anything negative about Rawlins.   Care to fill us in?

[UNT90]

5 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I don't know if I've heard him (or anyone else) say anything negative about Rawlins.   Care to fill us in?

Well, he has said that RV was forced to hire Stephens by Gretchen. He also said that Gretchen was the reason Dodge was hired. Imagine that.

But he only criticizes in private... Unless that person is no longer at UNT, then he will blame that person for Rick Villarreal's woeful lack of job performance. Just like Fly. Of course when Gretchen was here, he never said a bad word about her. He praised her.

And he just said that Smatresk is the real deal like no one before, implying Rawlins is substandard to Smatresk, yet he praised Rawlins when he was here.

That tune will change as soon as Smatresk is out the door at UNT. Smatresk will be at fault after he leaves if Littrell fails. KRAM and Fly will come on here and tell us how Rick Villarreal really wanted Meacham and cite the rumors about Littrell being Smatresk's guy around the time of hiring. Of course, if Littrell is successful, they will trumpet Littrell as their little buddy's hire. It is the dysfunction of UNT club sports. 

If you remember, I ask Fly directly if Littrell was the #1 person of Villarreal's list. I ask this question after Fly boldly stated that Littrell was on RV's short list. Being on a short list and being THE guy RV wants are two different things. Fly never answered that question, and he absolutely has the answer. He is leaving himself an out. And Doing it on purpose. 

[KRAM1]

8 hours ago, UNT90 said:

Well, he has said that RV was forced to hire Stephens by Gretchen. He also said that Gretchen was the reason Dodge was hired. Imagine that.

But he only criticizes in private... Unless that person is no longer at UNT, then he will blame that person for Rick Villarreal's woeful lack of job performance. Just like Fly. Of course when Gretchen was here, he never said a bad word about her. He praised her.

And he just said that Smatresk is the real deal like no one before, implying Rawlins is substandard to Smatresk, yet he praised Rawlins when he was here.

That tune will change as soon as Smatresk is out the door at UNT. Smatresk will be at fault after he leaves if Littrell fails. KRAM and Fly will come on here and tell us how Rick Villarreal really wanted Meacham and cite the rumors about Littrell being Smatresk's guy around the time of hiring. Of course, if Littrell is successful, they will trumpet Littrell as their little buddy's hire. It is the dysfunction of UNT club sports. 

If you remember, I ask Fly directly if Littrell was the #1 person of Villarreal's list. I ask this question after Fly boldly stated that Littrell was on RV's short list. Being on a short list and being THE guy RV wants are two different things. Fly never answered that question, and he absolutely has the answer. He is leaving himself an out. And Doing it on purpose. 

You are so full of do do. Find a post where I criticized Rawlins and find a post where I said RV was forced to hire Stehens.   Others have said that, but I do not believe it was me.  And, people that. Actually know me, know that. I as quite vocal in crazing Gretchen while she was ere AND after she left.  She was terrible, but as a change agent I gave her credit for getting the ball rolling on some needed changes.  Overall, she was a disaster for morale and forth is university.  Doubtful that you know much of anything about it really....and now that you don't care you just spew any bs about anyone that doesn't buy you line of crap-ola.

I'll wait while you find those posts.  Either find them, or lay off this current line of bs.

[Ben Gooding]

Not saying who said what or when, but it's quite apparent that things are said (or not said) to leave a backdoor escape hatch for Rick Villarreal and there is no denying that. 

I have NEVER heard Rick say I messed up and I need to fix this problem and this is how I plan on doing it. To Rick, there is ALWAYS a premeditated escaoe goat. This is what is wrong with the AD. I wouldn't have any disdain for the man if he would just own allllll of his failures while attaching real World solutions to them. He doesn't do any of that and it's well beyond time to unhitch this cancerous dead weight. 

[UNT90]

On March 3, 2016 at 4:23 PM, KRAM1 said:

Your thinking that Dr. Smatresk is anything like our past few presidents shows just how very little you are attuned to reality these days. 

 

So explain this. In this very thread. You equate Rawlins to Gretchen, who you have implied kept RV from hiring whom he wanted when Stephens and Dodge were hired and who wouldn't allow a football coach to be paid more than the UNT President. 

Its just what you do. I've gotten pretty used to it. Praise in public while they are still at UNT, criticize in public when they are gone. It's the game you and Fly play while saying you only criticize in private, which simply isn't true. 

Its the convenient path to defending Rick Villarreal. 

[UNT90]

14 minutes ago, Ben Gooding said:

I have NEVER heard Rick say I messed up and I need to fix this problem and this is how I plan on doing it. To Rick, there is ALWAYS a premeditated escaoe goat. This is what is wrong with the AD. I wouldn't have any disdain for the man if he would just own allllll of his failures while attaching real World solutions to them. He doesn't do any of that and it's well beyond time to unhitch this cancerous dead weight. 

This is correct, and there really is some psychological pathology that goes along with this pattern of behavior. And it's not very flattering. 

I'll just leave this here. My hope is that KRAM and Fly read the whole thing. They won't. The manipulation is just too strong:

http://blogs.psychcentral.com/caregivers/2014/09/6-subtle-characteristics-of-the-pathological-liar/

Edited March 5, 2016 by UNT90

[KRAM1]

1 hour ago, UNT90 said:

So explain this. In this very thread. You equate Rawlins to Gretchen, who you have implied kept RV from hiring whom he wanted when Stephens and Dodge were hired and who wouldn't allow a football coach to be paid more than the UNT President. 

Its just what you do. I've gotten pretty used to it. Praise in public while they are still at UNT, criticize in public when they are gone. It's the game you and Fly play while saying you only criticize in private, which simply isn't true. 

Its the convenient path to defending Rick Villarreal. 

Of all the inane things you have posted this one takes the cake.  You put your negative spin on any post that does not follow your path of negativity.  You can't find posts you say I have made because they aren't there.  Praising our new president is not in itself disparging of past presidents.  To put ruin good of put words in my mouth.  Speak trash for yourself all you want, but leave me out if that trash.  Put up or shut up with this line of BS.  Find those posts or shut up.  You can't find them so you assign BS meanings to my posts.  You really have reached a new low.  But, you know that already.

[UNT90]

16 minutes ago, KRAM1 said:

Of all the inane things you have posted this one takes the cake.  You put your negative spin on any post that does not follow your path of negativity.  You can't find posts you say I have made because they aren't there.  Praising our new president is not in itself disparging of past presidents.  To put ruin good of put words in my mouth.  Speak trash for yourself all you want, but leave me out if that trash.  Put up or shut up with this line of BS.  Find those posts or shut up.  You can't find them so you assign BS meanings to my posts.  You really have reached a new low.  But, you know that already.

Not even looking. You and I know what you said.

[KRAM1]

2 hours ago, UNT90 said:

Not even looking. You and I know what you said.

Figured you couldn't back up your BS.  

[UNT90]

2 minutes ago, KRAM1 said:

Figured you couldn't back up your BS.  

You will back it up yourself. I give it a week.

[rcade]

On 3/3/2016 at 5:49 PM, KRAM1 said:

No.  I was serious.  Dr. Smatresk is a winner.  He's the real deal, and has already led UNT to some major improvement since he first came.  He has his priorities in the correct order.  It may not be the order some here on GMG.com might wish they were, but in order they are....his order.  So far, it appears that he has been correct with that order..Tier One, finances in order, donations on the rise, new campus opened in Frisco, new Student Union opened, several new key staff and faculty members hired, etc.  The man is focused on moving UNT forward.

How far down Smatresk's list do we have to go before he reaches this item?

Fire the AD so our athletics program is no longer a national embarrassment that discourages alumni support.

I'll believe he's a different kind of UNT president when he puts out the dumpster fire.

[UNT90]

3 minutes ago, rcade said:

How far down Smatresk's list do we have to go before he reaches this item?

Fire the AD so our athletics program is no longer a national embarrassment that discourages alumni support.

I'll believe he's a different kind of UNT president when he puts out the dumpster fire.

Yep, so far he has been the status quo where athletics are concerned.

[EagleMBA]

2 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Yep, so far he has been the status quo where athletics are concerned.

I gave him credit for knowing what a good basketball program can do for a university and knowing what good basketball looks like by virtue of his previous employment. I'm beginning to wonder if my call was wrong. I guess we'll know PDQ.

[FirefightnRick]

On March 5, 2016 at 11:13 AM, KRAM1 said:

You are so full of do do. Find a post where I criticized Rawlins and find a post where I said RV was forced to hire Stehens.   Others have said that, but I do not believe it was me.  And, people that. Actually know me, know that. I as quite vocal in crazing Gretchen while she was ere AND after she left.  She was terrible, but as a change agent I gave her credit for getting the ball rolling on some needed changes.  Overall, she was a disaster for morale and forth is university.  Doubtful that you know much of anything about it really....and now that you don't care you just spew any bs about anyone that doesn't buy you line of crap-ola.

I'll wait while you find those posts.  Either find them, or lay off this current line of bs.

 

Ok.....

 

This was NOT RV's hire. He was pressured to make this hire by then President Batille. Coach V had another candidate ready to select, but was told "no" and that he needed to make this hire! Sorry, but that is the word I have been given by more than one source over a fairly long period of time. I really don't think this gets laid at the doorstep of Coach V. Yes, he is the AD and maybe could or should have said "no" to Prez B, but word was that you just didn't say "no" to Prez B if you wanted to keep your job or not have life made fairly miserable for you along the way and have every decision made questioned and approvals stalled.

Now, do I know this to be 100% true...no, as I was not involved in the process. I am only repeating what I have been told by numerous sources within and outside the athletic dept. and around the UNT campus and will admit to such here and now. So, yes, call it rumor as I cannot confirm as 100% factual. But, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...well....and if several folks you trust tell you the same thing at different times.......just sayin'

Either way, this is a good day for the women's basketball team and opens up the very real possibility that women's basketball at UNT will start seeing much better days, bigger crowds, more interest from recruits and many more wins. Can't wait.

 

GO MEAN GREEN!

 

Rick

Edited March 10, 2016 by FirefightnRick

[Side Show Joe]

On 3/3/2016 at 5:05 PM, UNT90 said:

This is "while the President is still at UNT" KRAM. It'll be a different tune when Smatresk leaves and the new guy shows up. Then Smatresk will be thrown to the wolves and the new guy will be able to do nothing wrong. 

I bet if someone wanted to take the time, you could find a very similiar post about Rawlins shortly after he got here and Gretchen before that. 

First, I'm not a fan of Smatresk's extension either. I think our president has yet to adequately address the failings within our athletic department.

Having said that... I have never known KRAM to be anything other then an honest positive supporter of our university. I have never heard him speak a single negative word about any current or former member of our administration. I think you are wrong to attack his character.

[UNT90]

8 minutes ago, Side Show Joe said:

First, I'm not a fan of Smatresk's extension either. I think our president has yet to adequately address the failings within our athletic department.

Having said that... I have never known KRAM to be anything other then an honest positive supporter of our university. I have never heard him speak a single negative word about any current or former member of our administration. I think you are wrong to attack his character.

Oh, there are many public posts out there of him deriding Bataille. After she was gone, of course.

The thread "Student attendance at Spring Events" will be quite eye opening. I don't want to start pulling up all sorts of old threads, so just search and have a read. 

Edited March 10, 2016 by UNT90

[KRAM1]

56 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Oh, there are many public posts out there of him deriding Bataille. After she was gone, of course.

The thread "Student attendance at Spring Events" will be quite eye opening. I don't want to start pulling up all sorts of old threads, so just search and have a read. 

As I have said on many occasion, it was no secret that I did not approve of Gretchen Bataille as president of UNT.  She was  a very poor manager of people and resources.  And, of course, she did not last long.  Glad you guys were interested enough to go back to 2011 to find these posts.....probably made both your days.  Guilty as charged...I did post that Bataille forced RV to hire Stephens...which, of course...we all know now is true. 

[FirefightnRick]

1 hour ago, KRAM1 said:

As I have said on many occasion, it was no secret that I did not approve of Gretchen Bataille as president of UNT.  She was  a very poor manager of people and resources.  And, of course, she did not last long.  Glad you guys were interested enough to go back to 2011 to find these posts.....probably made both your days.  Guilty as charged...I did post that Bataille forced RV to hire Stephens...which, of course...we all know now is true. 

 

If it were true all along you wouldn't have lied earlier that you never claimed that it happened.

LOL!

 

Rick

Edited March 11, 2016 by FirefightnRick

[KRAM1]

7 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

 

If it were true all along you wouldn't have lied earlier that you never claimed that it happened.

LOL!

 

Rick

Nope...wasn't...just forgot.   I have slept since 2011.  I indicated that I was "guilty as charged" regarding that post.  Thanks for being you.  LOL!  Did you undo that ignore functions?  LOL!

[UNT90]

1 hour ago, KRAM1 said:

..I did post that Bataille forced RV to hire Stephens...which, of course...we all know now is true. 

See, this is where my internet issues lie with you. "We all" absolutely don't know that's true. At all.

Yet you present is as gospel when Gretchen Bataille has long ago ridden off into the sunset. 

What we do know is that Rick Villarreal claimed her as his hire at the time he hired her. Period. Only after she failed did you and others start claiming that Stephens wasn't RV's fault. Real freaking convenient. 

Its a weird protection of Rick Vilarreal, a cancer that is killing UNT's athletic program.  

Edited March 11, 2016 by UNT90

[FirefightnRick]

5 hours ago, KRAM1 said:

Nope...wasn't...just forgot.   

You forgot,...after denying it 3-4 times in this thread, accusing 90 of being full of b.s. and making it up, and daring him to find posts about it.   

Ok then.

 

Rick

[untjim1995]

I've never cared so little about the alma mater than I do right now--and its my fault. It's not RVs fault, it's not Smatresk's fault, and it isn't the BOR's fault. I care about and follow college sports very closely. It's not something the folks in leadership care about--realizing this has really opened my eyes to just what a waste of time and money it has been to follow UNT sports and believe that winning ever matters to those in leadership. 

Embarrassing athletics and allowing that to continue just drives apathy to become even more entrenched than it already has been for decades. But believing that this mindset would ever change was very naive on my part. It took 25 years to get there for me, but 2015 proved how little we care about the only area of the university that I truly followed closely after graduating. That's not anyone else's fault more than it is my own for believing it would be different than it has been for decades. It is what it is. 

[Quoner]

Ever think we all kind of deserve each other?