Mean Green Win

emmitt01 · November 22, 2003

Men's team off to a good start.

Arkstfan · November 22, 2003

Always nice to start with a win.

Tribe gets its lower division tune-up Monday night.

NT80 · November 22, 2003

Men's team off to a good start.

One word for this game: UGLY!

We need lots of work on rebounding, freethrows, turnovers, etc. The usual stuff.

But it is a win, and our first over NW Ok. St. The series is now tied 1-1 as they beat us in 1938.

Congrats to Ark. St. on their win over Ole Miss!

Arkstfan · November 22, 2003

Well thats why you want to play low caliber teams early, fix the problems. Only reason we played Ole Miss this early is because they are giving us a return game next year so you play when they wanna play. Got two Division II teams coming up.

UNTX · November 22, 2003

Is NW Okla State even Division II? The game program mentioned their trips to the NAIA tournament back in the early to mid-nineties. Perhaps they moved up a few years ago, but if we had that much trouble with a NAIA school - it could make for a long season if we don't get some major bugs worked out.

Hopkins looks heavy, played just a few minutes and seemed winded. He was also looked pretty slow. I hope that he'll be able to return to previous form soon, because we really need him

I really liked Roniger in this game. Mid way through the 2nd half he really turned up the emotion, seemed really pi$$ed that we were running behind and established an "Uh - I don't think so" attitude on the court that was picked up by the rest of the team.

Attendance, might have been 1100. Not surprising for a team no one has heard of. Hopefully we'll turn that around as well.

Rudy · November 22, 2003

Ugly game!!!!! All that was said earlier needs to be worked on, and on more thing.....

STOP TRYING TO SHOWBOAT WHEN THE GAME IS ON THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw too many ally-oops attemps, flashy behind the back passes, and slam dunks.

Get the game won, then show off.

Gakusei · November 22, 2003

I agree, the game was pretty ugly. There were several times where there were 2-3 white jerseys around the hoop and 1 black jersey, and the black jersey seemed to almost always get the rebounds.

Still glad we won, and loved that the pace of the game picked up so much in the 2nd. It was really slow/dull for the 1st.

Edit: oh, and NW Ok is NAIA Div 1 as far as I know.

Also forgot to mention that back and forth "North Texas" in the Super Pit was really dumb.

Edited November 22, 2003 by Gakusei

Rudy · November 22, 2003

Also forgot to mention that back and forth "North Texas" in the Super Pit was really dumb.

Its not that its dumb, its that it is conduted poorly. During a time out, and using a microphone is a pathetic way. Do it durng play. have a couple of cheerleaders in the stands on either side and hold up the signs.

Gakusei · November 22, 2003

Something else I just thought of...Didn't they jump the 3-point line out a little bit for men's bball this year? I only saw the one line...

Nevermind...I just realized that takes effect in 04-05.

I guess something that I can add is that I was a bit disappointed with the attendance. I know there isn't nearly the hype around basketball as there is football, but I felt that a Friday night season opener should've drawn 500-1k more than it did. Oh well.

Attendance from ESPN: 1,037

Edited November 22, 2003 by Gakusei

CO Green · November 22, 2003

I think the cheerleaders would do it in the stands but the crowd never responds to anything the cheerleaders do, unless you have a mass way of addressing them, i.e. the microphone.

Gakusei · November 22, 2003

Just came across as cheesy is all I was saying. I'd like for them to figure out some basketball only cheers to get people going. I dunno if the CBA is still around (I know the team I followed is), but those teams' cheerleaders and announcers had a lot of cool things that they did that really brought the crowd into the game. Anything to spice up the experience a little would help.

Also, here's the roundup from the DRC/DMN:

North Texas 57, Northwestern Oklahoma State 47: In Denton, Scott Roniger scored five points to spark a key second-half run that lifted North Texas to a win in its season opener.
The Rangers grabbed a 22-21 lead at halftime and led by as many as six points before Roniger sparked UNT's rally. The sophomore stole a pass and set up junior forward Michael Jones for a layup and a three-point play. Roniger then drove the lane and made a layup to give UNT its first lead of the second half at 36-35.

Edited November 22, 2003 by Gakusei

Eagle-96 · November 22, 2003

They are, indeed, an NAIA team as per their official athletic site. We have alot of work to do.

GMG!!!

Beat The cardinals!!!

Travis · November 22, 2003

Attendance from ESPN: 1,037

there was no way a thousand showed up for that game...

WE were facing an unknown opponent... I didn't even know they existed till the other night. But, I also don't know if we have been campaigning this season that well.. at least i haven't heard anything.

And, last year was just horrible...

We seem alot better, but for much of last nights game we looked very very bad. And a NAIA team actually had us beat for much of the time. We made NOSU look good because we just weren't going all out. No real hustle, no desire to get to the ball it seemed. Which is why they dominated us with the hustle stats... IT was nice to see the likes of Roniger pick up the team.. he is a fired up individual. One of my friends (from Bloomington, Indiana) said Roniger reminds him of the Indiana boys that play for IU.. just scrappy and gets after it.

Here is to hoping we turn this ship around this season... JJ can take us there!

WE NEED PEOPLE TO COME OUT TO A GAME.. There are little things in life that are better than packing in a bunch of rowdy fans at a basketball game.

By the way, that cheer was pretty bad... It was for two reasons.. 1. like rudy said earlier- the timing and "being coached" for the cheer was just bad. And 2. It is not going to sound good with just 7 people on one side, and 8 people on the other. (i know, exaggeration)

Why, if the whole section next to the student side is empty, will they still not let us move a section over to be closer to the game? I understand that some people paid for seats there or whateva.. but, c'mon a whole freakin' section to just three people while many students are put on the side... (If I go to UNT i have to COMPLAIN about something, it just wouldn't be right if I didn't)

Gakusei · November 22, 2003

To me it looked a lot more like 500-700, but I have a hard time determining in the SP. And I agree with the seating. It'd be one thing if the place was packed or filling up through the 1st half, but I think that if seats are still open by the second half, they should be fair game. Either that or at least spread the student section out of the corner a bit.

CMJ · November 22, 2003

I didn't see it of course, but a 10 point win over a NAIA school is a bit discouraging. Nonetheless, it's good to start off with a win. I'm still hoping for a .500 season this year.

IronMan4 · November 22, 2003

Why, if the whole section next to the student side is empty, will they still not let us move a section over to be closer to the game? I understand that some people paid for seats there or whateva.. but, c'mon a whole freakin' section to just three people while many students are put on the side...

That was very pointless. It was like the 2001 NMSU thing, except our own school did it to us.

The reasons NWOS stayed with us was because Barnett could not take advantage of his height, and they let NWOS dicate the tempo of the game. When we went to a 3 guard lineup, the talent differential really showed up. Hot three point shooting from the Rangers and poor free throw shooting by NT also played big parts. I think we will be OK, but not playing like we did last night, that's for sure.

bandgeek · November 22, 2003

Is that why all the students were jammed up next to the band??? Please don't tell me they are going to argue about where students can sit when almost the whole areana is empty.... I bet Rick V. get's on this one quick

Travis · November 23, 2003

The reasons NWOS stayed with us was because Barnett could not take advantage of his height, and they let NWOS dicate the tempo of the game. When we went to a 3 guard lineup, the talent differential really showed up. Hot three point shooting from the Rangers and poor free throw shooting by NT also played big parts. I think we will be OK, but not playing like we did last night, that's for sure.

I agree.. It definitely looked like a new ball game with the new look. Good job on JJ for doing so.

Barnett will do some good things this year, but it wasn't the best of games last night..

they will get some wrinkles smoothed out... We will do much better this season.. i just don't know how much better...

That last 8 minutes looked real good.. hope the rest of the season can look alot like that.

November 23, 2003

The "student section" thing is a very bad idea. Having a student section for the Indiana game might be necessary, but not for just about every other game unless there is a dramatic increase in attendence. Students make up a pretty large part of the usual attendence, and the few students that do go to games shouldn't be punished.

It would also be great if there was some sort of spirit organization of enthusiastic students who attended games and set an example to the other students at the game.

About the actual game... Yes the first half and part of the second half were not good at all but the team showed signs of life at times in the second half and hopefully that is something they can build on. Also, UNT is probably the biggest name that NWOS plays this year so they no doubt had more energy than they probably would otherwise. They could also shoot pretty darn well. They didn't really have any playmakers, but if they got an open look they usually knocked down the shot. A win is a win and hopefully some more of the rust will fall off next game.

Edited November 23, 2003 by e-bone

Gakusei · November 23, 2003

btw...why couldn't we get Scrappy to the bball game? Unless I just missed him?

Edited November 23, 2003 by Gakusei

Lovesto Pumpfake · November 24, 2003

How bad is Barnett's ankle sprain? I was told he did it on his 2nd time down the court, and he may miss a few practices.

Sounds like it was a pretty ugly game - at least it was a win.

UNTFan23 · November 24, 2003

I'd say that the Student section is green, General admission is yellow, and Reserved seating is red. By my best guess, Blue is season ticket holders?

Who knows how it'll work out for the Indiana game. Students better show up if they don't want their section to be sold off for the NT/UI game.

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Personally, I think a legend might help someone guess what is what in the diagram.

CMJ · November 24, 2003

Students get alot of seating...way more than at most schools our size.

Gakusei · November 24, 2003

I was told 104-123 was student seating at the last game. Maybe the usher didn't know what they were talking about?

As far as the Indiana game, I'm buying tickets to that game. I want to have a good seat and I wouldn't be surprised to see the athletic office sell the student sections since school won't be in session.