Avatar wager for UNT90

[emmitt01]

Since UNT90 loves to throw out "this team will win 3 games...tops" as if it some irrefutable certainty, I have a little wager I'd like to propose.  

There are about a thousand "I'm a Dumbass" meme pictures out there.  WHEN this team wins game #4 he is to change his avatar to one of them of his choosing.  If they win 3 games or less I'll do the same.  The avatar can't be changed for 3 months.

This should be a sucker's bet that he can't lose.  After all, I read about how any expectation over 3 games is "drinking green koolaid" in every damn thread.  

So, how 'bout it UNT90?

Edited January 31, 2016 by emmitt01

[oldguystudent]

Avatar wagers are best wagers.  Still not crazy about how I got involuntarily pulled into the UTSA avatar bet back in 2013, but I have to admit it was pretty funny.

[UNT90]

Meh. I learned my lesson about betting on anything with this program. It's great that Emmitt believes this team will win more than 3 games. I believe that is highly unlikely. 

But I won't make a bet.

[MEANGREENCOACH2]

@UNT90

A true fan would make the bet!

Knowing he will lose but for the better of the team, because the bet is made we will inevitably win more than 3!!

[UNT Five&Dime]

Dont need an avatar to tell me who on here is a dumbass.

Edited January 31, 2016 by UNT Five&Dime

[UNT90]

Just now, UNT Five&Dime said:

Dont need a avatar to tell me who on here is a dumbass.

I wholehearted agree with this statement.

4 minutes ago, MEANGREENCOACH2 said:

@UNT90

A true fan would make the bet!

Knowing he will lose but for the better of the team, because the bet is made we will inevitably win more than 3!!

Then you make the bet. Or are YOU not a true fan?

[MEANGREENCOACH2]

I believe we will win more than 3 games on scheme alone.

So I will take the bet, but is it really a bet then when what I believe will happen actually happens??

[GoMeanGreen1999]

16 minutes ago, MEANGREENCOACH2 said:

I believe we will win more than 3 games on scheme alone.

So I will take the bet, but is it really a bet then when what I believe will happen actually happens??

I actually believe we will win more than 3 myself.  

[UNT Fan 92]

I like the positive attitude --we are going to win at least 3 games or more and we will be in a bowl game in 2 years _ Mark my words these guys are going to change the direction of this program --its been done before at other places with less resources and talent --GMG 

On a side note I see that UNT90 is starting to believe --I know he cares about this program and he wants what we all want ---to win ----UNT90 I can't wait to see what you think after spring ball --there still is plenty of room on this bandwagon.

[Andrew]

Mark should start a GMG basketball game wager as well!

[UNT90]

14 minutes ago, UNT Fan 92 said:

I like the positive attitude --we are going to win at least 3 games or more and we will be in a bowl game in 2 years _ Mark my words these guys are going to change the direction of this program --its been done before at other places with less resources and talent --GMG 

On a side note I see that UNT90 is starting to believe --I know he cares about this program and he wants what we all want ---to win ----UNT90 I can't wait to see what you think after spring ball --there still is plenty of room on this bandwagon.

I only think Littrell can turn this around if major changes are made in the AD before September. That means a new AD and a ton of new staff members. 

My hopes of that happening get slimmer and slimmer by the day.

Absent that removal, this staff will fall victim to the same culture that killed the DMac era. 

[UNT Fan 92]

You may be right UNT90 ---but I hope you are wrong ---the AD can't get out on the field and coach nor will he---I believe in Seth Littrel and his staff---Seth was an unbelievably hard worker when he played at OU --GH was the same at TECH--they work hard and will do the same thing as a coach ---Trust me ---SL and his staff are hungry to prove everybody wrong -

I suspect we will see some of these players from last year quit or transfer after spring ball starts -- If you don't buy into the program you will be gone one way or the other--they will build chemistry and trust in each other----As JJ always said you play for each other and not the yardbirds in the stands. SL and company are going to build chemistry and will go to battle with you or without you !!!

[UNT90]

11 minutes ago, UNT Fan 92 said:

You may be right UNT90 ---but I hope you are wrong ---the AD can't get out on the field and coach nor will he---I believe in Seth Littrel and his staff---Seth was an unbelievably hard worker when he played at OU --GH was the same at TECH--they work hard and will do the same thing as a coach ---Trust me ---SL and his staff are hungry to prove everybody wrong -

I suspect we will see some of these players from last year quit or transfer after spring ball starts -- If you don't buy into the program you will be gone one way or the other--they will build chemistry and trust in each other----As JJ always said you play for each other and not the yardbirds in the stands. SL and company are going to build chemistry and will go to battle with you or without you !!!

Rick Villarreal is on the sideline every game pretending he is a coach. So...

Sure, Littrell is hungry now, but with terrible AD support that stresses keeping your job over anything else (including openly lying to the fan base and reporters about things he is responsible for) being the example he is exposed to on a day to day basis, things will change over time.

Culture matters. A lot.

[MeanGreen22]

I just hope we don't roll out the #Hit6 and publicly admit we're just shooting for mediocrity. 

[untcampbell]

I have had a number of jobs and a number of bosses in my 43 years as an employee. I learned about 15 years in not to rely  too much on my bosses for MY success or MY failure, but especially during the three years or so I was the boss. I don't give them much credit for my success, and I never blame them for my failure. I thank my Lord that I haven't had to mull failure and who to blame for it very often....I am lucky in that way. I contribute much more to the outcome of how I perform my job than my boss does, without exception. If that was not the case, he wouldn't have hired me and just done the job himself.

Accountability is a liberating attribute, when used. It makes success that much more rewarding when it happens.

From what I have seen and heard of Coach L, I think he may take full responsibility for his success or failure. Rick V may or not be the reason that Benford is failing and McCarney (and a host of other RV hires) failed, but I haven't heard either spend much time blaming their AD. And they are/were smart in that way...I saw enough of both to put it squarely in their laps.

So I guess it is fine to put all of NT's past athletic failure on one guy. For now though, I will sit back and watch how this one plays out. And when Coach L succeeds, I promise I will give RV zero credit. And if it goes the other way, I won't have to worry about placing all the blame on RV. There will be plenty of posts and threads on this board doing so.

Yours in pure lunacy,

GMG

[FirefightnRick]

1 hour ago, UNT Fan 92 said:

You may be right UNT90 ---but I hope you are wrong ---the AD can't get out on the field and coach....

 

He's being allowed access to recruits, talking BS with them etc...as if he's one.  Just listen to the 10 second video clip a recruit posted on Twitter.  

Not a good idea at all.

 

Rick  

Edited January 31, 2016 by FirefightnRick

[Quoner]

1 minute ago, FirefightnRick said:

 

He's being allowed access to recruits, talking BS with them etc...as if he's one.  Just listen to the 10 second video clip a recruit posted on Twitter.  

Not a good idea at all.

 

Rick  

#Teens love pizza though #hitsixslices

[UNT Fan 92]

The athletes know who the coaches are and who is the AD ---they are only listening to the coaches and giving the AD respect for the position he holds---they know who is going to coach them. Lets give the athletes some credit. 

[ChristopherRyanWilkes]

Honestly, if there's one thing RV is good at it its talking "his accomplishments" up. I don't mind him talking about the stadium to recruits.

[UNTLifer]

5 hours ago, UNT90 said:

Meh. I learned my lesson about betting on anything with this program. It's great that Emmitt believes this team will win more than 3 games. I believe that is highly unlikely. 

But I won't make a bet.

Knew you wouldn't stand behind all of your bluster.  So typical.

[UNT90]

9 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Knew you wouldn't stand behind all of your bluster.  So typical.

You do love you some me.

[UNTLifer]

Such a weak and tired old bit.

[UNT90]

3 hours ago, untcampbell said:

I have had a number of jobs and a number of bosses in my 43 years as an employee. I learned about 15 years in not to rely  too much on my bosses for MY success or MY failure, but especially during the three years or so I was the boss. I don't give them much credit for my success, and I never blame them for my failure. I thank my Lord that I haven't had to mull failure and who to blame for it very often....I am lucky in that way. I contribute much more to the outcome of how I perform my job than my boss does, without exception. If that was not the case, he wouldn't have hired me and just done the job himself.

Accountability is a liberating attribute, when used. It makes success that much more rewarding when it happens.

From what I have seen and heard of Coach L, I think he may take full responsibility for his success or failure. Rick V may or not be the reason that Benford is failing and McCarney (and a host of other RV hires) failed, but I haven't heard either spend much time blaming their AD. And they are/were smart in that way...I saw enough of both to put it squarely in their laps.

So I guess it is fine to put all of NT's past athletic failure on one guy. For now though, I will sit back and watch how this one plays out. And when Coach L succeeds, I promise I will give RV zero credit. And if it goes the other way, I won't have to worry about placing all the blame on RV. There will be plenty of posts and threads on this board doing so.

Yours in pure lunacy,

GMG

It's great that you feel this way. Of course, I'm assuming none of that experience was in college athletics.

I, too, have experienced terrible management, and watched it turn really good employees to bitter do their 8 and go home people. And that fault didn't lie with them, it lie at the feet of their managers, who cared more about protecting themselves than freeing their employees to do the best job possible.

Sound familiar?

Your line is one often used by ineffective managers to deflect responsibility from themselves. "Your attitude is your responsibility" is a load of crap that everyone that has had a terrible boss or administration completely understands. People either give up ir quit. DMac quit. 

All we have to do is look at the most successful coach in the last 30 years for this program and the acrimonious relationship that developed between he and RV. And then the DMac quit. Alarming. 

6 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Such a weak and tired old bit.

But you STILL love you some me.

[untcampbell]

I was an ineffective manager....and it was my fault. Not my employees. Not my managers. I was fully aware and unhappy that I was not succeeding so I went back to being managed. I found it much more difficult to motivate and invigorate others than it was to motivate and invigorate me, and I was frustrated by anyone who didn't have enough respect for himself and his family to do his best regardless of circumstance. But I certainly had more respect for the art of managing people after I failed at it.

One of my problems as a manager was I never put anything on my employees. If they weren't succeeding, I bore the burden and blamed myself for being unable to motivate and inspire them to do their best (not for me, but for them). My 4 outstanding reps loved me as a manager and thrived, having some of their best years while we worked together, but my 4 worst reps didn't like me at all (and I don't blame them....after trying everything else, I micro-managed until they were gone). 

Your line is often used by people who find it difficult to self-motivate or who are looking for reasons they didn't succeed (I am not trying to infer you fall into either category).  Where, or for whom, I have not liked working, I did my best until I found something I liked better. Not doing my best only hurt me as I sold myself to my next potential employer. 

So bear with me as I unload some more crap on you: my attitude and my performance IS my responsibility. I am in control. It is up to me to rise above the obstacles that impede my success. I can see some work environments where that might not work as well...union shops or similar jobs where the boss's one goal is to see that his employees never climb past him. for instance. My dad told me his time at the post office was like that and it drove him to quit and pursue a career in real estate, where his success was directly related to the effort he put into it. I was blessed with a good mentor, in that respect.

So that load of crap has served me well in my work life. I hope you have found a load of crap mantra that has served you well also.

This lunatic will continue to believe that Coach L would favor my load of crap. What success he has here will be up to him and those he hires, recruits, manages and coaches. And if he doesn't succeed here, I will leave it to him to tell us whose fault it was. He may just keep it to himself but I am confident you will be here to tell us it was RV's fault, regardless.

GMG

[UNT90]

9 minutes ago, untcampbell said:

I was an ineffective manager....and it was my fault. Not my employees. Not my managers. I was fully aware and unhappy that I was not succeeding so I went back to being managed. I found it much more difficult to motivate and invigorate others than it was to motivate and invigorate me, and I was frustrated by anyone who didn't have enough respect for himself and his family to do his best regardless of circumstance. But I certainly had more respect for the art of managing people after I failed at it.

One of my problems as a manager was I never put anything on my employees. If they weren't succeeding, I bore the burden and blamed myself for being unable to motivate and inspire them to do their best (not for me, but for them). My 4 outstanding reps loved me as a manager and thrived, having some of their best years while we worked together, but my 4 worst reps didn't like me at all (and I don't blame them....after trying everything else, I micro-managed until they were gone). 

Your line is often used by people who find it difficult to self-motivate or who are looking for reasons they didn't succeed (I am not trying to infer you fall into either category).  Where, or for whom, I have not liked working, I did my best until I found something I liked better. Not doing my best only hurt me as I sold myself to my next potential employer. 

So bear with me as I unload some more crap on you: my attitude and my performance IS my responsibility. I am in control. It is up to me to rise above the obstacles that impede my success. I can see some work environments where that might not work as well...union shops or similar jobs where the boss's one goal is to see that his employees never climb past him. for instance. My dad told me his time at the post office was like that and it drove him to quit and pursue a career in real estate, where his success was directly related to the effort he put into it. I was blessed with a good mentor, in that respect.

So that load of crap has served me well in my work life. I hope you have found a load of crap mantra that has served you well also.

This lunatic will continue to believe that Coach L would favor my load of crap. What success he has here will be up to him and those he hires, recruits, manages and coaches. And if he doesn't succeed here, I will leave it to him to tell us whose fault it was. He may just keep it to himself but I am confident you will be here to tell us it was RV's fault, regardless.

GMG

And my post wasn't aimed at you. It's clear that the problem wasn't with you because you weren't the problem. Your good people worked hard for you. I also bet you didn't lie to cover any of your mistakes repeatedly. And I bet you didn't lie to your customer base about anything. There are bad employees and there are bad supervisors. It doesn't sound like you were one of them.  But one of them does sit in the athletic director's office at UNT, and I worry about the affect he will have on the new football coach.

Bad supervision is the #1 reason for turnover in organizations. Not pay, not benefits. Money isn't the be all end all for a whole bunch of people. A good working environment means a whole hell of a lot, and good people will leave if it isn't there, because they have options.