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A consensus emerged in the 1980s that minority athletes were getting exploited for sports while being pushed aside academically, according to a 2000 article by Michael Mondello of Villanova University that studied the history of NCAA academic eligibility.

Boy, I'm glad they fixed that problem.

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After I read it was the Big 12 makes the case, I just laughed to myself.  The old Big 8 from which is was borne was one of the last conferences to do away with the old Prop 48 rule which let you take on a couple or so players a year who couldn't make the cut academically.

The bar is already lowered for athletes coming in.  The Big 12 now says, "Take the bar away."  Bad old NCAA for expecting kids to be able to read, write, and do some very basic math after 13 years, K-12!   

Considering the source, predictable; not surprising at all.  No conference whines like the Big 12. 

35 minutes ago, ChristopherRyanWilkes said:

I thought they were all student-athletes and those Stanford players all have 4.0 GPAs and 1500 SATs already? 

Yes.  And, Texas...their alumni will tell you what geniuses all of their recruits are as well.  All of them could have made it in with the non-athlete students, of course.

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10 minutes ago, HarringtonFishSmeller said:

After I read it was the Big 12 makes the case, I just laughed to myself.  The old Big 8 from which is was borne was one of the last conferences to do away with the old Prop 48 rule which let you take on a couple or so players a year who couldn't make the cut academically.

The bar is already lowered for athletes coming in.  The Big 12 now says, "Take the bar away."  Bad old NCAA for expecting kids to be able to read, write, and do some very basic math after 13 years, K-12!   

Considering the source, predictable; not surprising at all.  No conference whines like the Big 12. 

Yes.  And, Texas...their alumni will tell you what geniuses all of their recruits are as well.  All of them could have made it in with the non-athlete students, of course.

The amateur $port of college athletic$ and their $tudent athlete$. 

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I think the P5 should just go ahead and drop the charade. Why even make any of them go to class? Why not just officially sponsor their mascot teams of players, and drop the student/athlete title? These guys don't pay a dime, have personal tutors assigned to them, get paid a cost of living stipend, etc. Why not come out in the open and just admit that they are the minor league for the NFL. Maybe, these schools could get a kick back from the NFL to do so.

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10 minutes ago, GangGreen said:

I think the P5 should just go ahead and drop the charade. Why even make any of them go to class? Why not just officially sponsor their mascot teams of players, and drop the student/athlete title? These guys don't pay a dime, have personal tutors assigned to them, get paid a cost of living stipend, etc. Why not come out in the open and just admit that they are the minor league for the NFL. Maybe, these schools could get a kick back from the NFL to do so.

I am 100% all in favor of this if those universities are willing to completely detach themselves away from the NCAA and call call themselves a minor league system for the NFL. To add, they also should only be allowed to participate in football games on Sundays so this allows their employer, the NFL, to submit to negotiating new TV contracts for their new minor league system. Of course, lastly, the title needs to be dropped down from "student-athlete" to just athlete. By doing so this affiliates them with the university, but not the academia. The university is still responsible for disciplinary action as well as monitoring their players, but they are not held to a fake academic standard. 

Saturdays are to be held in lieu for real college football programs. TV contracts and all. Now say hello to the fear the P5 and the NCAA have of allowing the above scenario to happen. Though it should, that is why this scenario will never happen....$. 

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I agree on that notion:  let the P5s be a minor league if the NFL pays for it

No taxpayer scholarship money for those athletes at that point.  If you really want to play out the farce, play it out; quit trying to have it both ways:  taxpayers funded the scholarships to kids we say shouldn't have academic standards.

I'd rather see that scholarship money go to kids who really will go to class, earn a degree, then make something of themselves if it comes down to P5s being able to opt their football and basketball players - because, that's who we're really talking about here - out of the academic qualifications part.

What a joke.

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1 hour ago, HarringtonFishSmeller said:

I agree on that notion:  let the P5s be a minor league if the NFL pays for it

No taxpayer scholarship money for those athletes at that point.  If you really want to play out the farce, play it out; quit trying to have it both ways:  taxpayers funded the scholarships to kids we say shouldn't have academic standards.

I'd rather see that scholarship money go to kids who really will go to class, earn a degree, then make something of themselves if it comes down to P5s being able to opt their football and basketball players - because, that's who we're really talking about here - out of the academic qualifications part.

What a joke.

On this we agree.

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