MGB Friday football notes

Brett Vito · January 22, 2016

MGB: Why Starkel to A&M shouldn't be a surprise, info on last assistant spot, Marshall lands 4* former Alabama commit

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2016/01/friday-morning-football-notes-thoughts.html/

Withers940 · January 22, 2016

Thanks for a History lesson on Liberty Vito

Eagle-96 · January 22, 2016

Edited January 22, 2016 by Eagle-96

emmitt01 · January 22, 2016

Ever have that friend that constantly insults you and tries to pretend it's constructive criticism?

SilverEagle · January 22, 2016

Boring? really? How many times do we need to be told that our CULTURE SUCKS before everyone wakes up and starts listening. That Southlake player is a perfect example of what this crazy old man has been ranting about for years. He would rather go to A$M, walk on, and pay his own way than get a ship and a diploma from North Texas. WHY?

BECAUSE (SPORTS ASIDE) A$M HAS A CULTURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE PART OF AND ASSOCIATED WITH.

NORTH TEXAS HAS NO DISCERNIBLE CULTURE......SPORTS OR OTHERWISE.

WE ARE AN UNORGANIZED, UNATTACHED COLLECTION OF WOULD BE FANS WHO ARE OFTEN TIMES ASHAMED TO ADMIT THAT WE ARE NORTH TEXAS GRADUATES.

WHAT HISTORY AND TRADITIONS WE MIGHT HAVE ARE FORGOTTEN, TOSSED ASIDE ON A WHIM, OR MISREPRESENTED BY HIRED INTERLOPERS.

MOST OF THE TIME WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY.

Edited January 23, 2016 by SilverEagle

MeanGreenTexan · January 22, 2016

OK @Brett Vito, I spent alot of time the other day defending you.

Don't pay be back with this. Just because something is true (your Southlake player's tale) doesn't mean you gotta write it.

SilverEagle · January 22, 2016

Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

OK @Brett Vito, I spent alot of time the other day defending you.

Don't pay be back with this. Just because something is true (your Southlake player's tale) doesn't mean you gotta write it.

I hope you're kidding.

MeanGreenTexan · January 22, 2016

2 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

I hope you're kidding.

Nope.
Didn't care for the Southlake player's comment. I guess it helps make his point here, but it transcends UNT Athletics into disparaging the University as a whole. Whatever. Some things irk some people, and other things irk other people. As I sad the other day... sometimes the truth hurts.

Eagle-96 · January 22, 2016

8 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

Boring? really? How many times do we need to be told that our CULTURE SUCKS before everyone wakes up and starts listening. That Southlake player is a perfect example of what this crazy old man has been ranting about for years. He would rather go to A$M, walk on, and pay his own way than get a ship and a diploma from North Texas. WHY?

BECAUSE (SPORTS ASIDE) A$M HAS A CULTURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE PART OF AND ASSOCIATED WITH.

NORTH TEXAS HAS NO DISCERNIBLE CULTURE......SPORTS OR OTHERWISE.

WE ARE AN UNORGANIZED, UNATTACHED COLLECTION OF WOULD BE FANS WHO ARE OFTEN TIMES ASHAMED TO ADMIT THAT THEY ARE NORTH TEXAS GRADUATES.

WHAT HISTORY AND TRADITIONS WE MIGHT HAVE ARE FORGOTTEN, TOSSED ASIDE ON A WHIM, OR MISREPRESENTED BY HIRED INTERLOPERS.

MOST OF THE TIME WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY.

I'm saying it's boring because he's not telling us things we don't already know.

Starkel to A&M and we had very little chance. Check

We don't have a DL coach yet. Check

Other CUSA schools are getting commits that we only dream of. Check

High School athletes considered UNT a joke up until 2 months ago. Check

BTW: I have never been, and never will be, ashamed of having a degree from UNT. NEVER. And I know you aren't either.

forevereagle · January 22, 2016

Just now, Eagle-96 said:

I'm saying it's boring because he's not telling us things we don't already know.

So he just writes for us, the up to date and closely following fan. Not a chance that he could be writing for others who don't follow the program as closely.

SilverEagle · January 22, 2016

Just now, Eagle-96 said:

I'm saying it's boring because he's not telling us things we don't already know.

Starkel to A&M and we had very little chance. Check

We don't have a DL coach yet. Check

Other CUSA schools are getting commits that we only dream of. Check

High School athletes considered UNT a joke up until 2 months ago. Check

BTW: I have never been, and never will be, ashamed of having a degree from UNT. NEVER. And I know you aren't either.

Check.

But what people are ashamed of is not the degree itself, it's the culture (or lack thereof) associated with it.

Mean Green 93-98 · January 22, 2016

4 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Nope.
Didn't care for the Southlake player's comment. I guess it helps make his point here, but it transcends UNT Athletics into disparaging the University as a whole.

Agree. It's not a "great quote," and only one who thoroughly loathes the University of North Texas (cue Cougar Queen and Froggy Style) would think it is.

Cerebus · January 22, 2016

4 minutes ago, Eagle-96 said:

BTW: I have never been, and never will be, ashamed of having a degree from UNT. NEVER. And I know you aren't either.

I am and always have been proud of my degrees from NT. Now the athletics program...

Edited January 22, 2016 by Cerebus

UNT90 · January 22, 2016

30 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

Boring? really? How many times do we need to be told that our CULTURE SUCKS before everyone wakes up and starts listening. That Southlake player is a perfect example of what this crazy old man has been ranting about for years. He would rather go to A$M, walk on, and pay his own way than get a ship and a diploma from North Texas. WHY?

BECAUSE (SPORTS ASIDE) A$M HAS A CULTURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE PART OF AND ASSOCIATED WITH.

NORTH TEXAS HAS NO DISCERNIBLE CULTURE......SPORTS OR OTHERWISE.

WE ARE AN UNORGANIZED, UNATTACHED COLLECTION OF WOULD BE FANS WHO ARE OFTEN TIMES ASHAMED TO ADMIT THAT THEY ARE NORTH TEXAS GRADUATES.

WHAT HISTORY AND TRADITIONS WE MIGHT HAVE ARE FORGOTTEN, TOSSED ASIDE ON A WHIM, OR MISREPRESENTED BY HIRED INTERLOPERS.

MOST OF THE TIME WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY.

YOU are just disgruntled and angry.

YOU are the problem.

Leave us 30 or so only to enjoy our mean green in empty facilities, please.

16 minutes ago, Eagle-96 said:

I'm saying it's boring because he's not telling us things we don't already know.

Starkel to A&M and we had very little chance. Check

We don't have a DL coach yet. Check

Other CUSA schools are getting commits that we only dream of. Check

High School athletes considered UNT a joke up until 2 months ago. Check

BTW: I have never been, and never will be, ashamed of having a degree from UNT. NEVER. And I know you aren't either.

A school that assassinated its own football program a little over a year ago just got a commitment from a player rated higher than any of our high school recruits. Ever.

Like throughout the history of this program.

Thats... Awesome?

Edited January 22, 2016 by UNT90

UNTWILLWIN · January 22, 2016

The quote and the kid are near-sighted. I have degrees from A&M, UNT and Stanford. I had my best days at UNT. I also know now that without my strong foundation from UNT I would not have the other degrees. There is a place for everyone. If this kid feels as though maroon is his favorite color, so be it. I do agree with the comments earlier that we at UNT can be our own worst enemies. It's an awesome place, be proud.

Green P1 · January 22, 2016

Ya'll really pissed Vito off with all the Sidway talk.

Good job guys.

Cerebus · January 22, 2016

1 minute ago, Green P1 said:

Ya'll really pissed Vito off with all the Sidway talk.

Good job guys.

Hell hath no fury like a beat reporter scorned...

SHOSS · January 22, 2016

I have officially had it with vito's version of covering north texas athletics.

These comments when each and every recruit decides to go elsewhere are completely unnecessary. If vito wants to take every chance to kick us in the nuts by publishing negative commentary by people.... go cover somebody else.

This starkel story could have been summed up by saying he chose aTm, so it is time for the coaching staff to look elsewhere... maybe even focusing on alternative qb recruits for littrell and company to turn their attention towards.

drex · January 22, 2016

I understand that Vito is proud to display his Slim's Discount University diploma.

SilverEagle · January 22, 2016

13 minutes ago, SHOSS said:

I have officially had it with vito's version of covering north texas athletics.

These comments when each and every recruit decides to go elsewhere are completely unnecessary. If vito wants to take every chance to kick us in the nuts by publishing negative commentary by people.... go cover somebody else.

This starkel story could have been summed up by saying he chose aTm, so it is time for the coaching staff to look elsewhere... maybe even focusing on alternative qb recruits for littrell and company to turn their attention towards.

He doesn't publish these comments from recruits all the time. Actually this is the first time that I can remember actually reading about a potential recruit's thoughts about our University. I'd like to hear more, when a recruit says "no thanks".

Personally I think we need to be reminded of the situation from time to time, We spend too much time blaming someone else for our unattractiveness as a program.

Edited January 22, 2016 by SilverEagle

TIgreen01 · January 22, 2016

Vito can suck it for posting that crap. Now, to make up for it, I'd love to find out where the kid who made that remark ended up. Life has a way of straightening guys like him out.

Mean Green 93-98 · January 22, 2016

4 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

He doesn't publish these comments from recruits all the time. Actually this is the first time that I can remember actually reading about a potential recruit's thoughts about our University. I'd like to hear more, when a recruit says "no thanks".

Personally I think we need to be reminded of the situation from time to time, We spend too much time blaming someone else for our unattractiveness as a program.

This wasn't a recent comment. I don't actually recall Vito publishing the comment before, but it must have been Derek Tomlin--class of 2007. So Vito is resuscitating a 9-year-old quote to take a swipe at the university.

greenjoe · January 22, 2016

I also don't recall that story.

GO MEAN GREEN

SHOSS · January 22, 2016

8 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

He doesn't publish these comments from recruits all the time. Actually this is the first time that I can remember actually reading about a potential recruit's thoughts about our University.

Personally I think we need to be reminded of the situation from time to time, We spend too much time blaming someone else for our unattractiveness as a program.

I respectfully disagree. My alma mater's football program recent record is enough of a reminder of where things stand and i do not need remindefs of this. Quoting a kid from southlake adds zero value when the direction of the story could be taken many different ways... none of which includes things like this.

SilverEagle · January 22, 2016

1 minute ago, greenjoe said:

I also don't recall that story.

GO MEAN GREEN

I don't either. But I fully believe that there are at least dozens (if not more) of similar situations, both before and after 2007(if that truly is where the quote came from). But all the others were either not directly asked why they were passing up the opportunity to play at North Texas or they were just polite enough to not tell us that our program and/or culture sucked.