Texas State's biggest donors leaves

[BillySee58]

Because they hired an FCS coach. So ridiculous. I hope Withers wins a Sun Belt title there. Jim Tressel came from an FCS (1AA at the time) school in Youngstown State when Ohio State hired him, then he won a national championship a couple years later.

I've said it before, but as long as we are in CUSA it's in our best interest to not exclude candidates just because they aren't this or that. Priority number 1 should be finding the right fit, which fortunately the early returns look good on the guy we picked.

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[DeepGreen]

Probably not a big donor by today's standards, but didn't we lose a large donor at UNT by the name of Mattress Mac?  For a similar but different reason.

[midlane]

21 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

Probably not a big donor by today's standards, but didn't we lose a large donor at UNT by the name of Mattress Mac?  For a similar but different reason.

If I recall correctly, that was more about the way we fired Dickey and less about hiring Dodge. 

[BigWillie]

At least he isn't asking for his money back!

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Edited January 8, 2016 by BigWillie

[Mean Green 93-98]

They were an FCS team just a few years ago, and he's mad because they nab one of the best FCS coaches and staffs in the country?  That reminds me of their fanbase screaming bloody murder when they only got a Sun Belt invite and not a C-USA invite.

[Rudy]

Dick move.  Just like Matress Hack.  Douchebags that get pissy when they don't get their way.

[foutsrouts]

They were still D2 (and previously NAIA) even after we had dropped from 1A to 1AA. Sounds like some are getting a bit greedy. 

[oldguystudent]

Unrelated, that's a pretty decent looking stadium they've got.  Why, it's even got the Jerry D. and Linda Gregg Fields Bobcat Stadium West Side Complex!  Ohhh.  Wait.  Too soon?

[untbowler]

money or not the guys is complete douchebag.

This a very hire for TxState.

Hope the AD tells him to piss off if he comes crawling back, when Withers has them winning some.

[Eagle-96]

Any sane AD will welcome that kind of money back with open arms. Especially at a school where it makes up such a large percentage of donations. If someone wants to give you money you take it. The school holds the leverage there as the donor already knows he can't have his way. If Mattress Mac wanted to come back and give to UNT, I would say yes in a heartbeat. We need every penny we can get. We're not n a position to say no and neither is Texas State-San Marcos.

[meangreendork]

That's a douche move on that donor's part. Withers did okay at UNC but did very well at JMU. I'd say he's a good pick. The best? No. But he's shown he can win with a less than stellar situation and fierce competition at UNC, and he can definitely win with smaller resource pools and the reduced profile of an FCS program at JMU. He isn't the shiniest pick in the world, but he might be what TxST can afford and he might even be the perfect fit, too.

[Withers940]

11 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

Because they hired an FCS coach. So ridiculous. I hope Withers wins a Sun Belt title there. Jim Tressel came from an FCS (1AA at the time) school in Youngstown State when Ohio State hired him, then he won a national championship a couple years later.

I've said it before, but as long as we are in CUSA it's in our best interest to not exclude candidates just because they aren't this or that. Priority number 1 should be finding the right fit, which fortunately the early returns look good on the guy we picked.

Language Warning

http://totalfratmove.com/texas-state-biggest-donor-absolutely-destroys-university-over-hiring-of-new-football-coach-jerry-fields-san-marcos/?utm_medium=short&utm_source=Twitter

The Force Is very strong in You Billy

[casual fan]

I'm just glad Withers was hired by Texas State and not UTSA.

UTSA  doesn't  have its ducks in a row.

Let's hope they don't for 4 more weeks.

National signing day is Feb. 3rd. 

 

[greenjoe]

As to the way Dickey was fired, I agree.  It was not handled correctly.  Coach Dickey should have been given a few minutes to gather his personal belongings from his office and escorted off the campus.  The mistake made was allowing him to remain with the team, for 5 (?) more games, spewing whatever discontent he spewed, and not being removed immediately.  The black jersey incident should have never happened.  That was Rick's fault.  Probably because he didn't have experience firing people. 

And another thing.  When is a gift a gift ?  At what point does the giver cease ownership of the gift ?  Is it when he appears at a basketball game and a great big check "appears" to be handed from the giver to the athletic director and everyone in attendance claps and cheers ?  Or is it when the real check clears the bank ?  Or is it not really a gift yet because the giver is making payments on the gift ?  It seems to me when I tell someone, "here3's a gift", my ownership and my directions as to how the gift may be spent stops.

If things don't go my way, am I still able to ask for my seat license at Apogee to be refunded (prorated) ?  Probably not.

 

GO MEAN GREEN

[ChristopherRyanWilkes]

I agree, is this circumstance it is probably unfounded and he may feel stupid if Withers ends up succeeding. 

However, I see no problem with withdrawing donation if you don't agree with the decisions of the Athletic Department you are donating to. I think this is more widespread than just the hiring of a coach, if you check their fan board they are very unhappy with their Athletic Director. They even started a GoFundMe to make a banner to fire him (sound familiar)? 

[Travis]

Probably TSU90.  

[Cerebus]

3 minutes ago, Travis said:

Probably TSU90.  

Pretty good bit, but no way I am +1ing a Boise State Deep Cover Operative.

[Quoner]

14 minutes ago, ChristopherRyanWilkes said:

I agree, is this circumstance it is probably unfounded and he may feel stupid if Withers ends up succeeding. 

However, I see no problem with withdrawing donation if you don't agree with the decisions of the Athletic Department you are donating to. I think this is more widespread than just the hiring of a coach, if you check their fan board they are very unhappy with their Athletic Director. They even started a GoFundMe to make a banner to fire him (sound familiar)? 

RV vs. Teis. Teis vs. RV. Forever linked.

Oh, you. You just couldn't let me go, could you? This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You truly are incorruptible, aren't you? You won't surpass me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness. And I won't surpass you because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever.

[MGNation92]

4 minutes ago, Travis said:

Probably TSU90.  

TSU90 wouldn't drop out. He would continue to give his $7500 a year for season tickets and club access and incessantly bitch about how shitty everything is to all of the diehard fans at gobobcats.com that have already known all of the school's problems for a long time. 

[JesseMartin]

54 minutes ago, greenjoe said:

As to the way Dickey was fired, I agree.  It was not handled correctly.  Coach Dickey should have been given a few minutes to gather his personal belongings from his office and escorted off the campus.  The mistake made was allowing him to remain with the team, for 5 (?) more games, spewing whatever discontent he spewed, and not being removed immediately.  The black jersey incident should have never happened.  That was Rick's fault.  Probably because he didn't have experience firing people. 

And another thing.  When is a gift a gift ?  At what point does the giver cease ownership of the gift ?  Is it when he appears at a basketball game and a great big check "appears" to be handed from the giver to the athletic director and everyone in attendance claps and cheers ?  Or is it when the real check clears the bank ?  Or is it not really a gift yet because the giver is making payments on the gift ?  It seems to me when I tell someone, "here3's a gift", my ownership and my directions as to how the gift may be spent stops.

If things don't go my way, am I still able to ask for my seat license at Apogee to be refunded (prorated) ?  Probably not.

 

GO MEAN GREEN

You're totally right about all of this, but remember that a lot of money doesn't come in the way Jim McNatt's $1.25 million did (all at once).  Most of it comes annually...so yes, the gift is a gift, but you can't fund a program on one year of good giving; you need those people to feel appreciated and keep coming back.  Happy donors = rich program.

[UNT90]

32 minutes ago, Travis said:

Probably TSU90.  

This is what would have happened at UNT if Smatresk had fired RV. Half the 17 would have left with their friend.

[untjim1995]

59 minutes ago, greenjoe said:

As to the way Dickey was fired, I agree.  It was not handled correctly.  Coach Dickey should have been given a few minutes to gather his personal belongings from his office and escorted off the campus.  The mistake made was allowing him to remain with the team, for 5 (?) more games, spewing whatever discontent he spewed, and not being removed immediately.  The black jersey incident should have never happened.  That was Rick's fault.  Probably because he didn't have experience firing people. 

And another thing.  When is a gift a gift ?  At what point does the giver cease ownership of the gift ?  Is it when he appears at a basketball game and a great big check "appears" to be handed from the giver to the athletic director and everyone in attendance claps and cheers ?  Or is it when the real check clears the bank ?  Or is it not really a gift yet because the giver is making payments on the gift ?  It seems to me when I tell someone, "here3's a gift", my ownership and my directions as to how the gift may be spent stops.

If things don't go my way, am I still able to ask for my seat license at Apogee to be refunded (prorated) ?  Probably not.

 

GO MEAN GREEN

That certainly isn't a problem in 2016...Since 2006, he has fired these people he extended or hired in his tenure--Darrell Dickey, Shanice Stephens, Todd Dodge, Rick Petersen, and Dan McCarney. Tony Benford is standing on a banana peel looking over the Grand Canyon right now in terms of getting shoved out.

Its very probable that RV will have fired 6 coaches in the three revenue sports in ten years--that is not just experienced, that's damn near Hall of Shame level firing of your own personnel that you hired/extended.

2 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

This is what would have happened at UNT if Smatresk had fired RV. Half the 17 would have left with their friend.

Dude, you are way wrong on this...no way only half would have left. It'd be more like 75% or more...

No access, no money...

[UNT90]

I should have said at least half

[VideoEagle]

2 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

Its very probable that RV will have fired 6 coaches in the three revenue sports in ten years--that is not just experienced, that's damn near Hall of Shame level firing of your own personnel that you hired/extended.

You must think Deloss Dodds, generally considered the best athletic director ever, was terrible. He fired over over 3/4 of all the head coaches he ever hired. 

[flyonthewall]

You should have said over half, because remember,  these 17 that you speak of have provided millions of dollars because they put themselves first instead of supporting the University and it's student athletes.  I mean it's all about paying for access to a "drinking buddy" for me.