Seth Littrell's Contract Details

[MGNation92]

Looks like maybe he took less to have a better assistant salary pool? 

[KRAM1]

Looks like maybe he took less to have a better assistant salary pool? 

That is exactly what he did.  He wanted higher pay for his assistants, so he took less.  Says a lot about the character of the man to me.  Way to go Coach Littrell.  

[oldguystudent]

Wow.  I'm really surprised at that.  I like it.

[Ben Gooding]

That is exactly what he did.  He wanted higher pay for his assistants, so he took less.  Says a lot about the character of the man to me.  Way to go Coach Littrell.  

I would like to see the assistant salary before stating this as fact. Also, who's to say this wasn't the offered amount. With this pay the OC/DC need to be at at least 250K a piece. Of course that is easy for me to say while not funneling money into it....blindly. 

 

To add, if it is true that he accepted less to give more to his assistants (of which why a first time HC would do that is kind of a head scratcher), I don't like it. I like the model of being able to say, "North Texas pays their HC X amount of dollars." It helps with perception and will at least put us on a financial fast track to success on the field. No one cares about saying, "North Texas only pays their HC X amount of dollars, but at least the assistant salary pool is comparable to some conference foes." JMO. 

Edited December 23, 2015 by Ben Gooding

[Tyler Maryak]

bottom line for now - holy balls, what a value.

[emmitt01]

It is a very noble gesture on his part.  

 

Of course, nobility is a lot easier when you're still pulling down 3/4 of a million a year.  

[KRAM1]

I would like to see the assistant salary before stating this as fact. Also, who's to say this wasn't the offered amount. With this pay the OC/DC need to be at at least 250K a piece. Of course that is easy for me to say while not funneling money into it....blindly. 

It is a fact, Ben.  He was offered a higher salary...a good bit higher.  He asked that it be used for his assistants.  I realize it is hard for you to believe any decent news regarding UNT, but it is what it is, and that is what happened.  There just might be a Santa after all as far as his assistants are concerned.

 

Edited December 23, 2015 by KRAM1

[Ben Gooding]

It is a fact, Ben.  He was offered a higher salary...a good bit higher.  He asked that it be used for his assistants.  I realize it is hard for you to believe any decent news regarding UNT, but it is what it is, and that is what happened.  There just might be a Santa after all as far as his assistants are concerned.

 

If true, good for him. I am not trying to SMU our athletic department with my previous comments. But having a history of paying our HC handsomely will pay dividends when Littrell is neither fired or hired away and we're back at square 1. 

[Eagle-96]

The bigger story here is. Did Sidway scoop Vito AGAIN?

 

Here are the details

http://ntdaily.com/new-head-football-coach-littrells-contract-worth-3-625-million-over-five-years/

 

 

 

Edited December 23, 2015 by Eagle-96

[Ben Gooding]

The bigger story here is. Did Sidway scoop Vito AGAIN?

 

Here are the details

http://ntdaily.com/new-head-football-coach-littrells-contract-worth-3-625-million-over-five-years/

 

 

 

So 725K base with a "realistic" chance of getting himself to 865K based on performance incentives. The CFB playoff incentives are naive to even include. 

 

I wish they would have included an attendance incentive. 25,000 attendance average he receives an additional 50K. 30.85K for each sellout of 30,850. I know attendance isn't his job, but we need as many ambassadors pushing attendance as we can possibly get given the poor marketing and organization of the AD. 

[oldguystudent]

What, no car allowance?  Where's the car allowance? 

[Eagle-96]

What, no car allowance?  Where's the car allowance? 

My guess is Scott still has alot of legalese to dig through in the contract.

[Harry]

They are probably in negotiations with the other assistants and thus, do not want to divulge the assistant pay until they get through that process.  In the end, it will all come out in the wash as there will be an FOI request on all assistant salaries and compensation.

My hope is that they will create a recruiting specific position with the additional funding and Littrell's blessing.

[EagleMBA]

The contract is good. There is no doubt that he will put in the effort to achieve results (because that is the kind of guy he seems to be) and the contractual structure lets him be rewarded for those results. No complaints here.

[Eagle-96]

Details have been updated in the original article:

 

$5K academic bonus for GPAs and APR. 

$45K retention bonus for every year he stays at UNT.

$45K for Radio/TV

Buyout is $1.1 Million if fired before 01/31/2018

 

[UNT90]

It is a fact, Ben.  He was offered a higher salary...a good bit higher.  He asked that it be used for his assistants.  I realize it is hard for you to believe any decent news regarding UNT, but it is what it is, and that is what happened.  There just might be a Santa after all as far as his assistants are concerned.

 

So we are paying a one year college assistant who is going to be OC much more because the head coach took less money?

Ok...

Ben is right, the only thing the majority of college football media are going to look at is UNT didn't raise pay for the head coach. And even if Littrell did give up money for the assistants to be paid more, it just gives the same old impression of little ole UNT not being able to afford to pay legitimate FBS coaching salaries. 

With a better AD over the course of the last 15 years, pay wouldn't be an issue by now...

[Mean Green 93-98]

I certainly see Coach Littrell's willingness to take less money as a good thing.

1.  If he's happy with his head coaching salary, why shouldn't other people be?

2.  Upping the ante for assistants is essential to attracting and retaining a quality staff.  Don't you want Coach Littrell getting his "first choices" on staff, rather than having to go down the list to number 8 or 9?  And don't you at least want to make sure that if coaches leave, they leave for a clear promotion? (e.g., same position on P5 staff, or position coach to coordinator/coordinator to HC at G5).  Who knows what Dickey could have done if he would have been able to keep his better coaches on staff instead of losing them to anybody willing to pay them decently?

3.  His willingness to take less money tells me that winning means far more to him than his and his family's own financial security (although they shouldn't be doing too poorly in that department, either).  That's a message I love to hear from the new coach.

[MCMLXXX]

So we are paying a one year college assistant who is going to be OC much more because the head coach took less money?

Ok...

Ben is right, the only thing the majority of college football media are going to look at is UNT didn't raise pay for the head coach. And even if Littrell did give up money for the assistants to be paid more, it just gives the same old impression of little ole UNT not being able to afford to pay legitimate FBS coaching salaries. 

With a better AD over the course of the last 15 years, pay wouldn't be an issue by now...

If Fritz had been hired and done the same thing you would have been the same broken record.  Everything isn't "roses and lollipops" but can't you give it a rest 

[UNT90]

If Fritz had been hired and done the same thing you would have been the same broken record.  Everything isn't "roses and lollipops" but can't you give it a rest 

You are right. I would have had the same reaction. A head coach taking a pay cut so UNT can afford assistants isn't a good thing, no matter the head coach.

[UNTFan23]

So 725K base with a "realistic" chance of getting himself to 865K based on performance incentives. The CFB playoff incentives are naive to even include. 

 

I wish they would have included an attendance incentive. 25,000 attendance average he receives an additional 50K. 30.85K for each sellout of 30,850. I know attendance isn't his job, but we need as many ambassadors pushing attendance as we can possibly get given the poor marketing and organization of the AD. 

Naive perhaps but why not provide a financial incentive to strive towards?

Attendance numbers will follow winning, so to me it is a redundant incentive to provide.

[Ben Gooding]

You are right. I would have had the same reaction. A head coach taking a pay cut so UNT can afford assistants isn't a good thing, no matter the head coach.

^ 

Littrell was put in the predicament to take a pay cut so he could hire some guys that he wanted to at a price he knew they would come for. He was put in that predicament because of the lack of winning over the last 2 decades and fundraising done by our current athletic director. If he wanted his guys he had no other choice, because the money apparently wasn't there for him to accept his probable 1M offer. No other way do dice it up. That's the way it is and that is our situation because like 90 points out so often, our AD SUCKS!!!! 

Naive perhaps but why not provide a financial incentive to strive towards?

Attendance numbers will follow winning, so to me it is a redundant incentive to provide.

Sure it will. But I don't see us winning in his first couple years to the point of seeing a significant uptick in attendance. I can see us going 6-6 his first 2 years. That will not get the borderline fans on board. It will get the borderline fans to raise eyebrows. I honestly think that with our current situation and perception due to large part our AD (Ricky V), if Littrell goes 6-6 in consecutive years someone will swoop in and pick him up. Because that will be seen as "damn impressive", to come into a place like lowly North Texas and do anything of consistency and/or substance. 

 

Thanks, RV. 

Edited December 23, 2015 by Ben Gooding

[untbowler]

What, no car allowance?  Where's the car allowance? 

he gets $7800 a year its at bottom of article

Also love that the professional journalist got out scooped by a student. HAHAHA!!!!

[meangreen16]

Can someone please SHOW me where it was being reported that Littrell was offered a higher salary or turned down a larger salary?

If it's all just rumors then...

[Censored by Laurie]

the only thing the majority of college football media are going to look at is UNT didn't raise pay for the head coach.

who? 

[Army of Dad]

he gets $7800 a year its at bottom of article

Also love that the professional journalist got out scooped by a student. HAHAHA!!!!

Sidway isn't exactly your usual student journalist...

Edited December 23, 2015 by Army of Dad