Todd Dodge

Cr1028 · December 13, 2015

I have no clue how SLC performed pre and post Dodge. If you want a key indicator as to see what kind of coach he was/is I would start there.

We played SLC in HS almost every year. They were well coached every year, and when i played, they were coached by Ledbetter.
Their athletes were not any better or faster at that time than our team, but we were always surprised at how good they were. They have a long history of being well coached and tough.
That's why they win consistently, IMO.

While Dodge was at Fossil Ridge (which was in Southlake's district in 98 and 99), Southlake went 12-2 in 1998 with Lurch as their quarterback. They went as far as the state semifinals and lost to Cody Cardwell, Kelan Luker, and the man, the myth, the legend, one Art Briles. That was my senior year, I played at Coppell and we lost by 3 to them in our season finale.

In 1999 SLC went 6-4, did not make the playoffs, and went 2-3 in district play including a loss to Todd Dodge's Fossil Ridge Panthers.

foutsrouts · December 13, 2015

assistant coaches with little to no experience at college level. Yes that man sure can coach.

Hope we're not doing a rewind.

Cr1028 · December 13, 2015

Hope we're not doing a rewind.

I doubt we are. I'm sure Littrell has or will speak to Dodge at some point about his time here. Since he has a WR committed to us, I think the subject will come up. Dodge is a stand-up guy and will give Littrell all the insight on where he thinks he went wrong.

GMG24 · December 13, 2015

Congrats to Coach Dodge & to all the DFW area teams that advanced to the state championship game: Mansfield Lake Ridge, Frisco Lone Star, Argyle, Celina , and Brock.
FYI: Brandon Jackson is the receivers coach at Frisco Lone Star.

and we still have yet to go after their receivers, wonder if that changes with new staff?

FirefightnRick · December 13, 2015

While Dodge was at Fossil Ridge (which was in Southlake's district in 98 and 99), Southlake went 12-2 in 1998 with Lurch as their quarterback. They went as far as the state semifinals and lost to Cody Cardwell, Kelan Luker, and the man, the myth, the legend, one Art Briles. That was my senior year, I played at Coppell and we lost by 3 to them in our season finale.
In 1999 SLC went 6-4, did not make the playoffs, and went 2-3 in district play including a loss to Todd Dodge's Fossil Ridge Panthers.

Remind me, Coppell lost on a last second FG try, correct?

Rick

Marty · December 13, 2015

We played SLC in HS almost every year. They were well coached every year, and when i played, they were coached by Ledbetter.
Their athletes were not any better or faster at that time than our team, but we were always surprised at how good they were. They have a long history of being well coached and tough.
That's why they win consistently, IMO.

back in my day, our district was Aubrey, Celina, Coppell, Little Elm, Southlake Carroll, Pilot Point, and Sanger. Ledbetter had just taken over in 1980 (my senior year), his team was very disciplined & tough.

GMG24 · December 13, 2015

back in my day, our district was Aubrey, Celina, Coppell, Little Elm, Southlake Carroll, Pilot Point, and Sanger. Ledbetter had just taken over in 1980 (my senior year), his team was very disciplined & tough.

wow. Isn't it crazy how fast this area has blown up. Un real!! Love to chat sometime and get perspective.

dodgefan · December 13, 2015

Thrilled for Todd! He is a great man and coach, Many on this board, should be ashamed of themselves for the personal attacks on him.

unt_rocket09 · December 13, 2015

Don't agree entirely with that. Arlington, Denton, Mansfield and Frisco districts all had schools make deep runs this year.

I should be more specific. Mansfield, Denton and Frisco all have resources and make football a priority. It isnt like that at most multi school districts.

Cr1028 · December 14, 2015

On ‎12‎/‎13‎/‎2015 at 1:57 PM, FirefightnRick said:

Remind me, Coppell lost on a last second FG try, correct?

Rick

You know, I honestly can't remember. I remember my last play was a punt return by SLC's homecoming king Tye Strickland and myself and a Navy discus thrower named Nate Michael combined on the tackle. I remember there wasn't much time left in the game after that. Looking back, I wish I'd have tried to strip the ball but you can't change the past.

We did beat the other eventual state champion that year besides Stephenville, Grapevine.

Edited January 21, 2016 by Cr1028

UNT Five&Dime · December 14, 2015

Come on dude. Southlake has their 9th and 10th grade on one campus and their 11th and 12th grade on another. Just so they can keep all the talent under one program's roof.
Southlake ISD should have at least 2, most likely 3 high schools in the district.
They dont. For football.
Allen is the same way.
To say coaching has nothing to do with talent available is insane.
6-37 indicates he is a terrible coach, that's if you go by the "he either can coach or he can't" theory.
But I guess "football is football," right?

Alright, I'm an alumn of Southlake-Carroll ('96) and my kids are there now (grade school). There's a little over 8,000 students district wide. 4 (small) Elementary schools...that does not warrant 2 to 3 high schools. Aren't there high schools with 8,000 students? I hate that arguement. It has nothing to do with keeping all the talent under one roof.

The (Senior) High School was built in '92 when we had around 200 in each class, before the population boom. It's been expanded (maybe twice?) but in no way can it contain 4 grade levels. Sure, they could have built another High School but the current facility has nothing wrong with it other than size. It's not a two high school district. Isn't projected to be any time soon either.

Southlake-Carroll has tradition. Not talent. That's why there's a history of success, football and otherwise.

And since we're on the topic, a certain Defensive Coordinator was my neighbor for several years. All of you need to get over 2007. He has, no reason you can't.

Edited December 14, 2015 by UNT Five&Dime
Delete a random "l"

Cr1028 · December 14, 2015

Alright, I'm an alumn of Southlake-Carroll ('96) and my kids are there now (grade school). There's a little over 8,000 students district wide. 4 (small) Elementary schools...that does not warrant 2 to 3 high schools. Aren't there high schools with 8,000 students? I hate that arguement. It has nothing to do with keeping all the talent under one roof.
The (Senior) High School was built in '92 when we had around 200 in each class, before the population boom. It's been expanded (maybe twice?) but in no way can it contain 4 grade levels. Sure, they could have built another High School but the current facility has nothing wrong with it other than size. It's not a two high school district. Isn't projected to be any time soon either.
Southlake-Carroll has tradition. Not talent. That's why there's a history of success, football and otherwise.
And since we're on the topic, a certain Defensive Coordinator was my neighbor for several years. All of you need to get over 2007. He has, no reason you can't.

Plus, now you have Trophy Club going to Byron Nelson. When I was in HS, I went on a date with a SLC dragonette(or whatever they're called) and she lived in Trophy Club.

Cerebus · December 14, 2015

Aren't there high schools with 8,000 students?

I think the HS with the largest enrollment in Texas is Houston North Shore (~4200).

UNT Five&Dime · December 14, 2015

I think the HS with the largest enrollment in Texas is Houston North Shore (~4200).

I don't know who to believe. FFR said Allen has ~5,000.

UNTLifer · December 14, 2015

Allen ISD's website says 4,763. Wikepedia says 5,987.

Army of Dad · December 14, 2015

I think the HS with the largest enrollment in Texas is Houston North Shore (~4200).

current alignment snapshot numbers:

https://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=984&CID=1567932

Allen at 5,987 is biggest in the state.

UNT Five&Dime · December 14, 2015

Remind me, Coppell lost on a last second FG try, correct?

Rick

You may be thinking '95? I believe that one ended 24-21 on a last-second field goal by Carroll.

FirefightnRick · December 14, 2015

current alignment snapshot numbers:
https://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=984&CID=1567932
Allen at 5,987 is biggest in the state.

If these are 2014 numbers then they are from the 2012 enrollment report, correct? Reason I ask is I know for a fact what my kid' school turned in a few weeks back at the deadline for the 2016 report and it's higher than what this list shows.

Rick

Edited December 14, 2015 by FirefightnRick

oldguystudent · December 14, 2015

current alignment snapshot numbers:
https://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=984&CID=1567932
Allen at 5,987 is biggest in the state.

I want to see the half student at Cy Lakes

Cerebus · December 14, 2015

Best source of this data would be the TEA Snapshots series.

TheTastyGreek · December 14, 2015

I want to see the half student at Cy Lakes

It's a sad, sad situation... The kid used to play football, but Todd Dodge tried to coach him to cross a train track. Didn't go so well, sawed him completely in half, nothing left below the torso. Trauma forced him to transfer away to Cy Lakes.

But... He's not dead! That's a moral victory!

2nd But... No genitals anymore. That's gonna make it hard to be a good husband and father.

oldguystudent · December 14, 2015

2nd But... No genitals anymore. That's gonna make it hard to be a good husband and father.

Boy have I got the inappropriate "what, too soon?" response to this. Sadly, attachment and reanimation technology isn't enough up to snuff to mention it.

Cowtown · December 14, 2015

current alignment snapshot numbers:
https://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=984&CID=1567932
Allen at 5,987 is biggest in the state.

Good Grief district is 6-6A is huge. The 4 biggest schools in the state, plus Lewisville at 3900...wow

oldguystudent · December 14, 2015

Good Grief district is 6-6A is huge. The 4 biggest schools in the state, plus Lewisville at 3900...wow

Wow. Didn't notice that. It's pretty funny to hear the Lewisville stadium announcer refer to Allen when reporting district scores. "And over at McCracken Stadium, The University of Allen leads Plano 56-19"

Army of Dad · December 14, 2015

If these are 2014 numbers then they are from the 2012 enrollment report, correct? Reason I ask is I know for a fact what my kid' school turned in a few weeks back at the deadline for the 2016 report and it's higher than what this list shows.

Rick

these are the numbers used for the current alignment. I've seen where someone listed the new numbers from this year (to be used for the coming realignment), but couldn't find the link this morning.