Average attendance 13,631

[UNT90]

It would be interesting to see how that compares to Helwig's last year at UNT. 

Why so low? Losing is only one part. We lost throughout the Dodge years and still averaged 17k a year. Here are other factors.

Season tickets: One reason is the failure of the AD to increase season ticket sales. Probably cut into dinner time with the big donors. But seriously, these tickets get counted even when buts aren't in seats. That's why last night's attendance was announced at 8k when it was really no more than 2500. Failure to increase this base is a main reason for the fall in attendance. The season ticket base actually declined for 2015, probably because of...

A shit scheduling effort: This was the year I warned you about for the last 3 years. All I got was a bunch of "trust RV" bullshit from the usual crowd. What we got was the worst schedule in FBS. No game on opening day, no bye week, homecoming scheduled on Texas-OU gameday against a FCS (that beat us by 59 points), a 6pm start on Halloween, and a thanksgiving weekend home game to close out a pitiful effort in putting together a home schedule. Add in 2 whore road games, and you have a recipe for disaster. I literally could have tacked a schedule to the wall and thrown my own feces at it and come up with something better. No doubt this was a bad football team, but the schedule did it no favors. At all. 

Another lost generation of students: They didn't come back after the Portland St game, and I doubt they come back next year. The cost of that game will last for several years (absent a wildly successful winning season, which I think we all agree is nowhere on the horizon, even if Nick Saban was name coach on Monday). It will also have effects with alumni season ticket holders, many of whom will become former season ticket holders next year.

The refusal to completely clean house after Portland St: Leaving Rick Villarreal in place will further drive away season ticket holders, as they are tired of zero accountability for the Hattiesburg Hustler. It drove me from trying to get anyone to go to games this year, and will next year if I even go to a game. I'm sure it drove others to the same behavior (even UNT90grad posted about this, and no one would ever accuse him of being a negative Nancy). 

Dont expect a full rebound in attendance next year. There will be a substantial drop in season ticket sales. 

Will any big donor or the UNT administration care? Probably not...

[Matt from A700]

I think Fouts can fit that even after most of it was demolished. Sheesh....

[annecysdad]

And don't forget RV gave us season ticket holders and mean green club members two 5 home game seasons since Apogee opened.   

FYI... Event locations always announce sold tickets out vs. actual turnstile numbers when reporting attendance. 

[EagleMBA]

My memory is foggy this morning; can't remember Helwig's last year. Was he just before RV, who plopped on the scene 4/4/2001? Here are the average attendance figures and number of home games if you youngsters can develop it further:

SEASON      # Hm Games     Avg Attend        AD                       SEASON      # Hm Games     Avg Attend        AD                       

2015                  5                 13,631 est         RV                       2003                  5                 18,694              RV

2014                  6                 19,271               RV                       2002                  5                 15,260              RV

2013                  6                 21,030               RV                       2001                  5                 14,769              RV

2012                  5                 18,927               RV                       2000                  5                 14,180               ? 

2011                  6                 18,864               RV                       1999                  4                  13,752              ?

2010                  6                 17,718               RV                       1998                  5                  12,480              ?

2009                  6                 18,228               RV                       1997                  4                  19,704              ?

2008                  5                 16,956               RV                       1996                  6                  14,234              ?

2007                  5                 17,734               RV                       1995                  4                  17,376              ?

2006                  5                 15,685               RV                       1994                  4                  19,517              ?

2005                  5                 16,446               RV                       1993                  6                    8,596              ?

2004                  5                 15,184               RV                       1992                  5                    6,946              ?

 

Twenty four years!

Looks to me like Ray could have been in charge and there wouldn't have been much difference.

 

               

Edited November 29, 2015 by EagleMBA

[CMJ]

Don't trust those Helwig attendance numbers much....that's all I gotta say.  The 1997 number may be legit because the game at Texas Stadium against A&M (the week after we beat Texas Tech) drew about 55K (sixty percent of whom were Aggies).  That counted as a home game for us.

[UNT90]

My memory is foggy this morning; can't remember Helwig's last year. Was he just before RV, who plopped on the scene 4/4/2001? Here are the average attendance figures and number of home games if you youngsters can develop it further:

SEASON      # Hm Games     Avg Attend        AD                       SEASON      # Hm Games     Avg Attend        AD                       

2015                  5                 13,631 est         RV                       2003                  5                 18,694              RV

2014                  6                 19,271               RV                       2002                  5                 15,260              RV

2013                  6                 21,030               RV                       2001                  5                 14,769              RV

2012                  5                 18,927               RV                       2000                  5                 14,180               ? 

2011                  6                 18,864               RV                       1999                  4                  13,752              ?

2010                  6                 17,718               RV                       1998                  5                  12,480              ?

2009                  6                 18,228               RV                       1997                  4                  19,704              ?

2008                  5                 16,956               RV                       1996                  6                  14,234              ?

2007                  5                 17,734               RV                       1995                  4                  17,376              ?

2006                  5                 15,685               RV                       1994                  4                  19,517              ?

2005                  5                 16,446               RV                       1993                  6                    8,596              ?

2004                  5                 15,184               RV                       1992                  5                    6,946              ?

 

Twenty four years!

Looks to me like Ray could have been in charge and there wouldn't have been much difference.

 

 

                            

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So we are back to 1999 numbers.

Thanks RV.