This is why we NEED Meacham

mgfan · November 29, 2015

Doug Meacham joined the TCU football staff as offensive coordinator in December 2013.

In his first season at TCU, Meacham helped the Horned Frogs become the nation's most improved offense in total yards (+188.2 ypg) and scoring (+21.4 ppg). TCU's 21.4 points per game improvement broke the Big 12 record of 19.1 set by Oklahoma in 1999 (35.8; 16.7, 1998) and was the largest improvement by any team since Northwestern went up 24.0 points between 1999-00.

The 2014 Horned Frogs ranked second in the nation in scoring (46.5 ppg) and tied for fifth in total offense (533.0 ypg). TCU set 26 school records for offense in winning its first Big 12 championship as well as the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl.

Meacham was a 2014 finalist for the Broyles Award, recognizing the nation's top assistant coach.

Meacham came to the Horned Frogs after serving as co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Houston in the 2013 season.

TCU marks the sixth school that Meacham has been an offensive coordinator. In addition to his role at Houston, Meacham coordinated offenses at Samford (2002-04), Henderson State (1999-00), Jacksonville State (1997-99) and Georgia Military (1994-96).

http://www.gofrogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/doug_meacham_879468.html

Edited November 29, 2015 by mgfan

GMG24 · November 29, 2015

With a LOADED recruiting class he had 0 part in.

mgfan · November 29, 2015

With a LOADED recruiting class he had 0 part in.

Oh do you explain all of his success?!

yeah can't be him.. he only had success at UH, OSU and Samford.

Don't forget, he calls the plays. He put his player and teams in a position to win. We averaged something like 15 points a game this season

Meacham has been recruiting dfw as long at littrell has been coaching.

"Meacham also spent three years as the offensive coordinator at Georgia Military College. He first joined the GMC staff in 1991 and served as offensive line and tight ends coach. In 1994, he was promoted to offensive coordinator and helped guide the school to an impressive 35-8 record during his tenure."

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FirefightnRick · November 29, 2015

Oh do you explain all of his success?!
yeah can't be him.. he only had success at UH, OSU and Samford.
Don't forget, he calls the plays. He put his player and teams in a position to win. We averaged something like 15 points a game this season
Meacham has been recruiting dfw as long at littrell has been coaching.

How successful has he been at building a defense? Got any stats on that?

Rick

mgfan · November 29, 2015

With a LOADED recruiting class he had 0 part in.

meaCham also did recruit at JSU and just"showed up, but look what happened....Upon joining the staff at Jacksonville State in 1997, the Gamecocks went 7-4 and recorded the biggest turnaround in Division I-AA. During his tenure at Jacksonville State, Meacham's offensive unit broke 21 school passing and receiving records.

Must not be Meacham.

How successful has he been at building a defense? Got any stats on that?

Rick

From his bio posted above with the link.....

Upon joining the staff at Jacksonville State in 1997, the Gamecocks went 7-4 and recorded the biggest turnaround in Division I-AA. During his tenure at Jacksonville State, Meacham's offensive unit broke 21 school passing and receiving records.

Meacham also spent three years as the offensive coordinator at Georgia Military College. He first joined the GMC staff in 1991 and served as offensive line and tight ends coach. In 1994, he was promoted to offensive coordinator and helped guide the school to an impressive 35-8 record during his tenure.

GMG24 · November 29, 2015

Look, I think Meach is a hell of a coach. You are reaching a bit by going back to 1997, to show his recruiting ability.

FirefightnRick · November 29, 2015

meaCham also did recruit at JSU and just"showed up, but look what happened....Upon joining the staff at Jacksonville State in 1997, the Gamecocks went 7-4 and recorded the biggest turnaround in Division I-AA. During his tenure at Jacksonville State, Meacham's offensive unit broke 21 school passing and receiving records.

Must not be Meacham.

From his bio posted above with the link.....

Upon joining the staff at Jacksonville State in 1997, the Gamecocks went 7-4 and recorded the biggest turnaround in Division I-AA. During his tenure at Jacksonville State, Meacham's offensive unit broke 21 school passing and receiving records.
Meacham also spent three years as the offensive coordinator at Georgia Military College. He first joined the GMC staff in 1991 and served as offensive line and tight ends coach. In 1994, he was promoted to offensive coordinator and helped guide the school to an impressive 35-8 record during his tenure.

So none. Thank you.

Rick

mgfan · November 29, 2015

Look, I think Meach is a hell of a coach. You are reaching a bit by going back to 1997, to show his recruiting ability.

Reaching back? That shows how long his has been doing it. Usual the longer you recruit an area that better you are at getting kids to come to your school.

How successful has he been at building a defense? Got any stats on that?

Rick

Rick,

I missed read your last post. He is an OC he doesn't do defense. We had DAN who was suppose to be "great" at that...... you saw how well that turned out. I believe he would hire a DC. Just a guess.

We are looking for a offensive minded coach. WE AVERAGED 15 POINTS A GAME.

You are welcome.

Edited November 29, 2015 by mgfan

FirefightnRick · November 29, 2015

Reaching back? That shows how long his has been doing it. Usual the longer you recruit an area that better you are at getting kids to come to your school.
Rick,
I missed read your last post. He is an OC he doesn't do defense. We had DAN who was suppose to be "great" at that...... you saw how well that turned out. I believe he would hire a DC. Just a guess.
We are looking for a offensive minded coach. WE AVERAGED 15 POINTS A GAME.

You are welcome.

Dodge was not only an offensive minded coach,..he was actually successful at it. And how well did that work out for us?

All I'm saying is Ill temper my excitement until I see a defense back on the field.

Rick

mgfan · November 29, 2015

Dodge was not only an offensive minded coach,..he was actually successful at it. And how well did that work out for us?
All I'm saying is Ill temper my excitement until I see a defense back on the field.
Rick

Dodge didn't have nearly the resume Meacham has, but I understand what you are saying. I think Cosh is our biggest problem on defense.

Edited November 29, 2015 by mgfan

UNT90 · November 29, 2015

Reaching back? That shows how long his has been doing it. Usual the longer you recruit an area that better you are at getting kids to come to your school.
Rick,
I missed read your last post. He is an OC he doesn't do defense. We had DAN who was suppose to be "great" at that...... you saw how well that turned out. I believe he would hire a DC. Just a guess.
We are looking for a offensive minded coach. WE AVERAGED 15 POINTS A GAME.

You are welcome.

AND WE GAVE UP 41.08 POINTS A GAME.

The problem with hiring any coordinator who has never had success as a head coach is you have no idea how he will handle the other side of the ball.

This is why I have advocated for hiring someone who has been a successful head coach in a difficult situation. Because we have the most dysfunctional situation in FBS. By a mile.

This is why I think Meacham, Litrell, or Rielly will be a disaster, and will be gone after 4 years.

NM Green · November 29, 2015

Fair points to consider for sure. But when you get that offensive genius who has crafted one of the most revered energizing forms of play at the top level you have to listen and potentially take that risk. Meacham mentored under the Lovell Edwards of our time. I think he is worth the serious consideration.

GMG

UNTLifer · November 29, 2015

Certain people will continue to complain. Hire an offensive minded coach, and they will play will make a comment about defense. Hire a defensive coach and they will ask about offensive philosophy. Just the way it has been and will continue to be.

man-up UNT · November 29, 2015

He better find a quarterback for next year, all 4 of our's should be dismissed! D. Smith just absolute horrible, put him in as a slot receiver and that's it!!! Greer, don't come back to Denton please you couldn't start at southlake Carroll.

Find a good defensive coordinator and let him coach. Go recruit, recruit , recruit!!!

Eagle-96 · November 29, 2015

AND WE GAVE UP 41.08 POINTS A GAME.
The problem with hiring any coordinator who has never had success as a head coach is you have no idea how he will handle the other side of the ball.
This is why I have advocated for hiring someone who has been a successful head coach in a difficult situation. Because we have the most dysfunctional situation in FBS. By a mile.
This is why I think Meacham, Litrell, or Rielly will be a disaster, and will be gone after 4 years.

Justin Fuente

Matt Campbell

Jeff Brohm

Doc Holliday

Rod Carey

All successful coaches. It can, and has, been done. Don't just write off the head coach before he has even been hired. RV makes it tough for any head coach, but it CAN be done here. I hope we are doing this again in 4 years because we lost our head coach to a P5. Don't be depressed for the next 27 months 90, it's bad for your constitution.

southsideguy · November 29, 2015

so we already hammering our (maybe) new coach? Give who ever it is a chance please.

Silent Eagle · November 29, 2015

Jon Gruden for UNT coach. Will that make everyone happy? If Jon Gruden isn't hired, I'll be very upset.

BillySee58 · November 29, 2015

Look, I think Meach is a hell of a coach. You are reaching a bit by going back to 1997, to show his recruiting ability.

Yeah, the recruiting game has changed so much it's not even comparable.

And yes, obviously Meacham is a good coordinator. What we need to be concerned with is how he translates to being a head coach and running a program. Our program.

UNT90 · November 29, 2015

Justin Fuente
Matt Campbell
Jeff Brohm
Doc Holliday
Rod Carey
All successful coaches. It can, and has, been done. Don't just write off the head coach before he has even been hired. RV makes it tough for any head coach, but it CAN be done here. I hope we are doing this again in 4 years because we lost our head coach to a P5. Don't be depressed for the next 27 months 90, it's bad for your constitution.

They didn't achieve that success at UNT.

The dysfunction is going to be a big problem for an experienced coach, much less a first timer.

so we already hammering our (maybe) new coach? Give who ever it is a chance please.

The fact that RV is being allowed to make the hire will provide all the hammering needed.

Pointing out weaknesses isn't "hammering" anyone. Its what we should be doing.

southsideguy · November 29, 2015

so who would be your pick uno 90

Green Mean · November 29, 2015

I'm kinda sold on Seth Littrell myself. But hiring coaches is a very inexact science so and much much more so with RV making the decisions so ya who the heck knows.

UNT90 · November 29, 2015

so who would be your pick uno 90

I don't have a "pick," I have a set of qualifications which includes winning as a head coach in a challenging environment.

They have been gone over in numerous other threads.

Cr1028 · November 29, 2015

Doug Meacham joined the TCU football staff as offensive coordinator in December 2013.
In his first season at TCU, Meacham helped the Horned Frogs become the nation's most improved offense in total yards (+188.2 ypg) and scoring (+21.4 ppg). TCU's 21.4 points per game improvement broke the Big 12 record of 19.1 set by Oklahoma in 1999 (35.8; 16.7, 1998) and was the largest improvement by any team since Northwestern went up 24.0 points between 1999-00.
The 2014 Horned Frogs ranked second in the nation in scoring (46.5 ppg) and tied for fifth in total offense (533.0 ypg). TCU set 26 school records for offense in winning its first Big 12 championship as well as the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl.
Meacham was a 2014 finalist for the Broyles Award, recognizing the nation's top assistant coach.
Meacham came to the Horned Frogs after serving as co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Houston in the 2013 season.
TCU marks the sixth school that Meacham has been an offensive coordinator. In addition to his role at Houston, Meacham coordinated offenses at Samford (2002-04), Henderson State (1999-00), Jacksonville State (1997-99) and Georgia Military (1994-96).

http://www.gofrogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/doug_meacham_879468.html

How much of this improvement would you credit to Trevone Boykin becoming the full -time starter? How much of this improvement would you credit to Sonny Cumbie working with Trevone Boykin?

NT93 · November 29, 2015

My biggest concern with Meacham is that he's been coaching a while to have never been a head coach. An OC since '94, but never a HC? Could be a legitimate reason(s), but it's a red flag to me.

Cr1028 · November 29, 2015

My biggest concern with Meacham is that he's been coaching a while to have never been a head coach. An OC since '94, but never a HC? Could be a legitimate reason(s), but it's a red flag to me.

I was thinking that too. Only been a FBS coordinator for 3 years. Labled as co-OC at both places.