2 Finalists Leaked

greenit · November 28, 2015

Some kids may not know Meacham by name, but they should recognize that he was the OC at TCU.

Applewhite will have the advantage of having just gone through most of a recruiting cycle with kids that may be a little closer to our level. He may even be able to flip a few, which is not as likely if we are talking about a TCU recruit.

Both should have a full list of kids that they have been talking to all summer and season long.

MeanGreenZen · November 28, 2015

I have conflicting opinions on Applewhite. My dad went to Texas so I have followed that program closely since I was a kid. Applewhite was my favorite college QB ever. I even named my dog Major. I was absolutely tortured when Simms was handed the job over him.

Applewhite was on the fast track to a P5 head coaching gig until he got publicly reprimanded while coaching at Texas for cheating on his pregnant wife with a student assistant.

I was very disappointed in him for that. But everyone deserves a second chance and Major's offense at Houston is fun, electric and explosive. He also brings name recognition as any dad or high school coach would take his call and meet with him.

I have watched a few interviews of Meacham and other than his awesome 90's haircut, he seems kinda boring. Although Dan Mac exuded charisma in interviews and look where that got us.

i would be happy with either coach, but guess I would still give the slight nod to Major.

southsideguy · November 28, 2015

well if going to the school makes you qualified to be the hc i guess i am more qualified than RV for the ad job.

BillySee58 · November 28, 2015

Assembling a good recruiting staff is huge. Luper would be great. But like I said, in the age of lead recruiter and position coaches doing the leg work of the recruiting process I think people forget how important the head coach is.

There is not a highly regarded recruiting class in the country that isn't spearheaded by a coach who the commits are very excited to be playing for, above the head coaches of the other schools who are recruiting them.

Learn from last staff. There really weren't any individually awful recruiting position coaches. But we weren't winning recruiting battles against impressive programs.

eulessismore · November 28, 2015

Assembling a good recruiting staff is huge. Luper would be great. But like I said, in the age of lead recruiter and position coaches doing the leg work of the recruiting process I think people forget how important the head coach is.
There is not a highly regarded recruiting class in the country that isn't spearheaded by a coach who the commits are very excited to be playing for, above the head coaches of the other schools who are recruiting them.
Learn from last staff. There really weren't any individually awful recruiting position coaches. But we weren't winning recruiting battles against impressive programs.

I'm in the Doug Meacham camp after I saw them beat Baylor last night. I don't think they got where they are during the Patterson era by beating everyone else recruiting so much as recruiting good athletes and developing them into guys who could help them win.

GMG24 · November 28, 2015

I'm in the Doug Meacham camp after I saw them beat Baylor last night. I don't think they got where they are during the Patterson era by beating everyone else recruiting so much as recruiting good athletes and developing them into guys who could help them win.

or moving them around. Their LB Ty Summers, played QB in HS. Only Rice and TCU offered.

BillySee58 · November 28, 2015

I'm in the Doug Meacham camp after I saw them beat Baylor last night. I don't think they got where they are during the Patterson era by beating everyone else recruiting so much as recruiting good athletes and developing them into guys who could help them win.

Fair enough. Although I'll say 2 things about that. One is that the upperclassmen Meacham came in and got the most out of their talent were from top 30 classes, and were classes that were much better than TCU had been pulling in for a while. And two is that Patterson and Bill Snyder have definitely proven to be the exceptions from recruiting sites looking back at their own rankings.

But I'm not even convinced Meacham would bring in bad classes by any means, or that amazing classes are a necessity. I just think a head coach is still the most important player in recruiting and Meacham's track record as a recruiter doesn't make me as confident he'll win the recruiting battles as some other candidates.