Auburn assistant submits resume for North Texas job

Harry · November 23, 2015

Horton has shown an interest in becoming a head coach in recent years. He was reportedly one of the top candidates at Georgia Southern, which recently moved into the Sun Belt, but turned down the opportunity because of his family recently moving from Arkansas to Alabama.

"I don't want to (become a head coach) at the expense of my family and now I have a daughter at college who is a freshman at Auburn, and it's probably a little easier to move on from here -- just because I want to be a dad first," Horton told AL.com in August. "It's kinda old-fashioned, maybe, but that's just the way I think. I want to be a good dad first."

"Well, I don't know anything about Tim and other jobs," Auburn offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said. "I really don't. He and I haven't talked about that, so that's kind of the first I've heard of it. I know Tim's like me — we're as deep as we can be in getting ready for this week. That being said, Tim does a great job here. He'd be an excellent coach as a head coach. That's kind of the first I've heard of it. As far as I know and as far as I think he is, he's really happy here and has done a really good job for us."

"I believe in running the football just like coach Malzahn believes in running the football," he said. "I think what we do at Auburn is terrific. I do think this, though, for any head coaching job: in a certain sense you've got to tailor it to fit that school. For example, I spent seven seasons coaching at the Air Force Academy, I worked with Fisher DeBerry, who is a College Football Hall of Famer. Great man, great coach. I don't know if our system here at Auburn would work at Air Force. I think at Air Force you probably need to run the triple option. I think that's the offense that gives you the best chance to win, because to be honest, athletically, you're probably going to be out-athleted most Saturdays. I think you do have to tweak it to the school that you're at but I love what we do at Auburn. If and when I'm a head coach, that's what I'll do."

read more: http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/11/auburn_assistant_submits_resum.html

“Tim's an outstanding coach, an outstanding person, outstanding recruiter,” Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn said on Nov. 10. “He's got all the things to be a very successful head coach in the future.”

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburnauthority/2015/11/22/report-tim-horton-applies-north-texas-opening/76241406/

Edited November 23, 2015 by Harry

TheReal_jayD · November 23, 2015

BREAKING NEWS TIM HORTON IS HIRED!!!!!

ALL BECAUSE HE IS A VEST GUY.. JUST LIKE RV..

Cr1028 · November 23, 2015

TheReal_jayD · November 23, 2015

He says he will want to run a offense similar to Gus Malhzans. they like to run. we can run we just have trouble throwing so it might work out

Ben Gooding · November 23, 2015

He says he will want to run a offense similar to Gus Malhzans. they like to run. we can run we just have trouble throwing so it might work out

No thanks to AU's offense. If he tells us at the interview that he is going to implement a form of option offense then hire him on the spot.

Green92 · November 23, 2015

Seems like a big jump from position coach to head coach.

meangreendork · November 23, 2015

I got no problem with a run-first offense but you've gotta have a QB to throw effectively. While I'd prefer a coordinator over a positions coach, he might have the clout to attract other good coaches and thus, good recruits. Auburn is no slouch of a program.

GMG24 · November 23, 2015

No thanks to AU's offense. If he tells us at the interview that he is going to implement a form of option offense then hire him on the spot.

lol auburn runs an option offense just in a zone read style. Come on Ben your are better than that.

Ben Gooding · November 23, 2015

lol auburn runs an option offense just in a zone read style. Come on Ben your are better than that.

I know what AU runs. My older brother is an AU alum. They haven't ran squat of zone read this year bc they don't have that option. Jeremy Johnson proved to be below average and elite 11 QB Shaun White is really no better. That variation still depends on throwing the football quite a bit. No thank you. We have proven that we can't consistently recruit the QB position. The AU system will just set us up for more failure. And, yes, I am better than that.

GMG24 · November 23, 2015

I know what AU runs. My older brother is an AU alum. They haven't ran squat of zone read this year bc they don't have that option. Jeremy Johnson proved to be below average and elite 11 QB Shaun White is really no better. That variation still depends on throwing the football quite a bit. No thank you. We have proven that we can't consistently recruit the QB position. The AU system will just set us up for more failure. And, yes, I am better than that.

So, out of ZR what passes do you think they need to be able to throw. There are about 5-6 off of PA a QB needs to throw based on ZR play action, depending of course, who you are reading.

Ben Gooding · November 23, 2015

So, out of ZR what passes do you think they need to be able to throw. There are about 5-6 off of PA a QB needs to throw based on ZR play action, depending of course, who you are reading.

Yeah, throwing. That's our problem and a big issue with it. They also throw not using PA quite a bit. It's not really a real option offense. It's an offense that implements the zone read, but to call it a ZR offense would be s mistake. Either way, we need to go against the grain here at North Texas. That's our best shot at sustained success.

GMG24 · November 23, 2015

Yeah, throwing. That's our problem and a big issue with it. They also throw not using PA quite a bit. It's not really a real option offense. It's an offense that implements the zone read, but to call it a ZR offense would be s mistake. Either way, we need to go against the grain here at North Texas. That's our best shot at sustained success.

http://www.collegeandmagnolia.com/2014/8/5/5960709/auburn-gus-malzahn-inside-zone-run-basics

read that then get back to me. This offense is greatness when run right. D. Smith and Ivory, Wilson, Etc, fits nicely in this scheme. It allows Goree and Rutherford, along with whatever other receivers we have coming back, Khan etc. I like it.

Edited November 23, 2015 by GMG24

TheReal_jayD · November 23, 2015

http://www.collegeandmagnolia.com/2014/8/5/5960709/auburn-gus-malzahn-inside-zone-run-basics

read that then get back to me. This offense is greatness when run right. D. Smith and Ivory, Wilson, Etc, fits nicely in this scheme. It allows Goree and Rutherford, along with whatever other receivers we have coming back, Khan etc. I like it.

I like it.

Ben Gooding · November 23, 2015

http://www.collegeandmagnolia.com/2014/8/5/5960709/auburn-gus-malzahn-inside-zone-run-basics

read that then get back to me. This offense is greatness when run right. D. Smith and Ivory, Wilson, Etc, fits nicely in this scheme. It allows Goree and Rutherford, along with whatever other receivers we have coming back, Khan etc. I like it.

1. http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2

vs

2. http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2426

Make your pick.

At the end of the day it's about recruiting. In option 1 we can't recruit the kind of athletes we need to sustain this. History has told us that. History doesn't lie and history always repeats itself if changes are not made. In option 2 we can recruit these players at a very high sustainable rate. There are a far greater chance of a sustained success with option 2. I'll take option 2 over option 1 10/10 times. And yes, we agree, Smith, Ivery, and Wilson is a starter pack for an option offense. But with option 2 we can replace these guys a far greater % than option 1.

Edited November 23, 2015 by Ben Gooding

GMG24 · November 23, 2015

Yep, because SO many kids want to join a triple option offense. Many more would be willing to join an offense at least similar in concept to what they do in HS. You must be on some crazy stuff to legitimately be requesting that UNT run triple option. Do you see what little ole Tulsa has done with spread attack, Temple, Memphis, Houston, TCU (over years changing), Baylor, crap even Nick Saban changed his offense to match modern football.

That is only Malzahn's Inside Zone stuff, add outside zone, stuff and look out

Did is you read it? It's option football, just modernized and much more difficult to slow down.

BTW both your links are the same.

Edited November 23, 2015 by GMG24

Ben Gooding · November 23, 2015

Yep, because SO many kids want to join a triple option offense. Many more would be willing to join an offense at least similar in concept to what they do in HS. You must be on some crazy stuff to legitimately be requesting that UNT run triple option. Do you see what little ole Tulsa has done with spread attack, Temple, Memphis, Houston, TCU (over years changing), Baylor, crap even Nick Saban changed his offense to match modern football.
That is only Malzahn's Inside Zone stuff, add outside zone, stuff and look out
Did is you read it? It's option football, just modernized and much more difficult to slow down.

BTW both your links are the same.

The link is fixed.

Yes, it's "option" football when they choose to use it. News flash to you, we are not Tulsa, Temple, Memphis, Houston, TCU, or anyone else you would like to name. We are North Texas and we suck. We suck at recruiting. We suck at playing football. Most of our head coaches have sucked. We can't recruit players. And the thing about a REAL option offense is that we don't need "SO many kids" to come here. We will just need the right ones. The ones that people passed up on works in a real option offense. We need a Navy-based triple offense. A real option offense. It's sustainable and we need sustained success.

Got5onIt · November 23, 2015

The link is fixed.
Yes, it's "option" football when they choose to use it. News flash to you, we are not Tulsa, Temple, Memphis, Houston, TCU, or anyone else you would like to name. We are North Texas and we suck. We suck at recruiting. We suck at playing football. Most of our head coaches have sucked. We can't recruit players. And the thing about a REAL option offense is that we don't need "SO many kids" to come here. We will just need the right ones. The ones that people passed up on works in a real option offense. We need a Navy-based triple offense. A real option offense. It's sustainable and we need sustained success.

I can dig it. Agreed with you here. Something that can sustain winning seasons is what this program needs right now. If the service academies can do it, NT can do it.

Aquila_Viridis · November 23, 2015

I have seen a lot of Auburn football this year including one in Auburn. They have good running backs and a good rushing attack but they can't consistently throw the ball downfield with accuracy, and the defenses know that. Still, they have come up with a lot of different ways to run the ball effectively, to the extent that when they try to throw, it often seems like a wasted down. They ran one play where a guy was squatted down behind the line and the defense never saw him til he was running away from them out wide to the left; I think that was the A&M game. It's one of the coolest plays I've ever seen. So I have a positive impression of what this guy is doing, but I am hoping that NT comes up with enough money to really enter the game. (If anyone from NT contacts me to say that's what they are doing, or if they actually do it, I will pledge $.) Hiring a position coach from a currently unsuccessful SEC team is not going to get it.

Mean_Green09 · November 23, 2015

The link is fixed.
Yes, it's "option" football when they choose to use it. News flash to you, we are not Tulsa, Temple, Memphis, Houston, TCU, or anyone else you would like to name. We are North Texas and we suck. We suck at recruiting. We suck at playing football. Most of our head coaches have sucked. We can't recruit players. And the thing about a REAL option offense is that we don't need "SO many kids" to come here. We will just need the right ones. The ones that people passed up on works in a real option offense. We need a Navy-based triple offense. A real option offense. It's sustainable and we need sustained success.

News flash Auburn is the modern day Navy. Even Willie Fritz is more a modern day option attack. If you brought Fritz here he would throw it a lot more than he does at Georgia Southern and that is a fact.

Almost every high school in Texas is running something similar to what Malzahn, Morris, and Herman run. So saying that we cant get the kids to do it is false. There are plenty of underrated QBs out there who would come to UNT given the chance to run something similar to what they do in high school. The recruits will come with the right guy recruiting the right guys.

GMG24 · November 23, 2015

News flash Auburn is the modern day Navy. Even Willie Fritz is more a modern day option attack. If you brought Fritz here he would throw it a lot more than he does at Georgia Southern and that is a fact.

Almost every high school in Texas is running something similar to what Malzahn, Morris, and Herman run. So saying that we cant get the kids to do it is false. There are plenty of underrated QBs out there who would come to UNT given the chance to run something similar to what they do in high school. The recruits will come with the right guy recruiting the right guys.

but it's North Texas, we have sucked and we suck. Surely we can't hire someone who can recruit AND run a prigram/offense that will attract kids.

Eagle-96 · November 23, 2015

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2015/11/auburn_overlooked_running_man.html#incart_article_small

"Horton certainly seems like head coaching material. He's easily approachable and is a hit on the booster club circuit, where he hobnobs with donors and loves to mingle."

"I believe in running the football just like coach Malzahn believes in running the football," he said. "I think what we do at Auburn is terrific. I do think this, though, for any head coaching job: in a certain sense you've got to tailor it to fit that school. For example, I spent seven seasons coaching at the Air Force Academy, I worked with Fisher DeBerry, who is a College Football Hall of Famer. Great man, great coach. I don't know if our system here at Auburn would work at Air Force. I think at Air Force you probably need to run the triple option. I think that's the offense that gives you the best chance to win, because to be honest, athletically, you're probably going to be out-athleted most Saturdays. I think you do have to tweak it to the school that you're at but I love what we do at Auburn. If and when I'm a head coach, that's what I'll do."

Mean_Green09 · November 23, 2015

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2015/11/auburn_overlooked_running_man.html#incart_article_small
"Horton certainly seems like head coaching material. He's easily approachable and is a hit on the booster club circuit, where he hobnobs with donors and loves to mingle."
"I believe in running the football just like coach Malzahn believes in running the football," he said. "I think what we do at Auburn is terrific. I do think this, though, for any head coaching job: in a certain sense you've got to tailor it to fit that school. For example, I spent seven seasons coaching at the Air Force Academy, I worked with Fisher DeBerry, who is a College Football Hall of Famer. Great man, great coach. I don't know if our system here at Auburn would work at Air Force. I think at Air Force you probably need to run the triple option. I think that's the offense that gives you the best chance to win, because to be honest, athletically, you're probably going to be out-athleted most Saturdays. I think you do have to tweak it to the school that you're at but I love what we do at Auburn. If and when I'm a head coach, that's what I'll do."

Those quotes go a long way. It really is the mind frame we need coaching this team.

MGNation92 · November 23, 2015

Those quotes go a long way. It really is the mind frame we need coaching this team.

This. I think if Horton came here he would see A) a running QB with a cannon for play action throws downfield B) Two young, capable backs, and C) tall fast receivers to go up and get the ball. Those are all pieces to run an offense similar to Auburn. Couple those with the fact that our O-line is better in run blocking than pass blocking then you have building blocks to install that kind of offense. I'd rather have Rhett Lashlee, but Horton would be cheaper, and is known as a good recruiter.

Harry · November 23, 2015

I like Coach Horton, but I think he is in that spot of his career where he will either become a head coach or stay on as an assistant for the rest of his career.