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As good as the season has gone. I have seen 10 min of this game and have to say we are not playing well right now. I have not seen UNT combine for 3 passes in a row one single time and T-tech is completely dominating the ball and not getting any pressing from our girls. Right now we are hoping for a lucky punch before Tech capitalizes on their posessions.

I have seen our keeper kick it off about half a dozen time, and we did not end with a single posession from all those kickoffs.

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Travis Mentor

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I have followed unt soccer since 2000. This is classic hedlund style. It drives me crazy. And if you look at years past, you will see that that I have said this time and time again... his style will NEVER allow us to win a big time game. He has to change his style. 

The long ball crap is lazy, lacks creativity and is the easiest to defend. Plus, it allows the opposing team to dominate the midfield. And when you dominate the midfield you dominate the game. And what do you know, we are getting dominated. 

Long ball might work against lesser opponents, but not ones that are decent. 

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GrandGreen Grand Master

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I have followed unt soccer since 2000. This is classic hedlund style. It drives me crazy. And if you look at years past, you will see that that I have said this time and time again... his style will NEVER allow us to win a big time game. He has to change his style. 

The long ball crap is lazy, lacks creativity and is the easiest to defend. Plus, it allows the opposing team to dominate the midfield. And when you dominate the midfield you dominate the game. And what do you know, we are getting dominated. 

Long ball might work against lesser opponents, but not ones that are decent. 

Know next to nothing about soccer strategy, but that game based on what I saw was not near as close as the score.  So I tend to agree with your assessment.  It seemed like Tech had more players as they appeared to have outnumbered NT everywhere on the field. 

I did think the freshman goaltender had a great game under the circumstances. 

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I have followed unt soccer since 2000. This is classic hedlund style. It drives me crazy. And if you look at years past, you will see that that I have said this time and time again... his style will NEVER allow us to win a big time game. He has to change his style. 

The long ball crap is lazy, lacks creativity and is the easiest to defend. Plus, it allows the opposing team to dominate the midfield. And when you dominate the midfield you dominate the game. And what do you know, we are getting dominated. 

Long ball might work against lesser opponents, but not ones that are decent. 

Seems to me to be a bit of the classic Premier League and England National Team style of "kick and run".  Had a coach in my son's club team from England who always stressed that if you were in trouble just "kick it to the flag" and run.  We had speedsters who could catch up to many of those long balls.  But, even watching Coach Hedlund back in the day when he was an assistant on the UNT men's team...yes, the UNT men's team, that kick and run style was apparent.  Another assistant coach, David Hudgell, was from England and at that time that style was overriding in English play.  

It has served him well over the last years, but as we saw with the England National team on the world stage, can become problematic against certain other styles of play.  One goal game last night, so not sure I would fault the style as much as bemoan the many missed opportunities.  Lots of yellow being flashed around as well by those refs.

I am sure we are all proud of this team.  I know I am as it is a bright spot along with golf, tennis, cross country, volleyball, etc. at the moment.  Losing in the NCAA's in the first round is tough, but getting there was a goal it it was met.  Too bad the season had to end and extra bad that our all-time greatest goalkeeper had to miss the game due to injury.  

Congrats to the Mean Gren Soccer Ladies on a fine season, the CUSA Championship, Tournament Championship and NCAA berth.  wear your champions rings with pride....you earned them.

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untbowler Grand Master

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I have followed unt soccer since 2000. This is classic hedlund style. It drives me crazy. And if you look at years past, you will see that that I have said this time and time again... his style will NEVER allow us to win a big time game. He has to change his style. 

The long ball crap is lazy, lacks creativity and is the easiest to defend. Plus, it allows the opposing team to dominate the midfield. And when you dominate the midfield you dominate the game. And what do you know, we are getting dominated. 

Long ball might work against lesser opponents, but not ones that are decent. 

sounds like UNT Athletics as a whole, just fine to dominate conference, but not built to win anything on the big stage of a tournament we saw it with JJ and DD bith, they could win conference but would falter on tournament stage

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Travis Mentor

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Seems to me to be a bit of the classic Premier League and England National Team style of "kick and run".  Had a coach in my son's club team from England who always stressed that if you were in trouble just "kick it to the flag" and run.  We had speedsters who could catch up to many of those long balls.  But, even watching Coach Hedlund back in the day when he was an assistant on the UNT men's team...yes, the UNT men's team, that kick and run style was apparent.  Another assistant coach, David Hudgell, was from England and at that time that style was overriding in English play.  

It has served him well over the last years, but as we saw with the England National team on the world stage, can become problematic against certain other styles of play.  One goal game last night, so not sure I would fault the style as much as bemoan the many missed opportunities.  Lots of yellow being flashed around as well by those refs.

I am sure we are all proud of this team.  I know I am as it is a bright spot along with golf, tennis, cross country, volleyball, etc. at the moment.  Losing in the NCAA's in the first round is tough, but getting there was a goal it it was met.  Too bad the season had to end and extra bad that our all-time greatest goalkeeper had to miss the game due to injury.  

Congrats to the Mean Gren Soccer Ladies on a fine season, the CUSA Championship, Tournament Championship and NCAA berth.  wear your champions rings with pride....you earned them.

I think you bring up a great point with England. England is actually really bad in international play. They do poorly consistently in the World Cup and Eurocup for a reason. Possession ball like Brazil, Germany, Spain, and Argentina (to a lesser extent) is the way to go. Concern yourself with controlling the midfield with confusing runs, runs, clever through balls, showing to the ball, and having your outlets and drop options always available. 

We looked really bad yesterday and actually create very very few real opportunities. The ones that were 'created' were sloppy and it would have been only by luck if we put something in the back of the net. Long balls have their place in the game to exploit an over agressive defense trying to do an offsides trap or on a quick counter. But that is UNT's go to. And it looks sloppy. It looks crappy. And really, it is just too easy to defend. Because they get to have unlimited subs, there is no reason to keep to possession ball for any college team. I blame it all on the style.  The girls really never showed to the ball and gave options for each other.  oh, also clean crisp passing would have helped too.  Watching yesterday made me think they were just beginning the season and still working out team chemistry instead of the last game of the season.

But what do I know, I have only played the game since 5, been a coach and a ref. :)

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The soccer program is NT's best, so any criticism has to viewed in that context.  They have obviously been very successful this year and many others playing this style of soccer.  The question is do you tinker with something that has been so very successful at the conference level to try to improve on the national scene. 

I do echo that team had a great year and I think will again be a force next year with or without basic scheme changes.  

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