It's 42-0 middle of the 3rd quarter

Ben Gooding · November 9, 2015

No doubt DFW is whole heck of a lot better than any town in Louisiana and Mississippi. But here is what you are missing and is most important. NFL.
Pitch six flags or rangers games to a recruit and the NFL will win every time. Tech and Southern Miss track record of sending players to the NFL is what gives Tech and USM the upper hand in recruiting. Tech has 13 former players on current NFL roster. Those aren't SEC type numbers but the best in the CUSA by 3 players.
This year draft Tech is projected to have 3 players in the G5 top 20 players selected. No other G5 had more than 1
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/13985937/scouts-inc-drafts-20-best-players-the-power-5

It's just not temporary either, Tech has 3 former players that are part of the Pro football hall of fame. Tech has also been ranked in the top 25 on several occasions. Last time was 2012, 5 weeks in the Top 25 and highest rank 19.
Regarding attendance, we have already had 2 real sell outs this year around 27k, so things are looking up. But 50 degrees and steady rain kept all the out towners at home plus most of the older folks. The rice game last Friday in Houston, there were more Tech fans than Rice fans around 5k.
Good luck the rest of the way

Sure, NFL is a solid pitch. But every year some no name D2 squad gets someone drafted. Kids know that if they have the talent they will make it to the league. Ruston is what Ruston is...And it's a far cry from Denton.

Oh, and a UNT alum scored a TD today in said league.

UNT90 · November 9, 2015

Sure, NFL is a solid pitch. But every year some no name D2 squad gets someone drafted. Kids know that if they have the talent they will make it to the league. Ruston is what Ruston is...And it's a far cry from Denton.
Oh, and a UNT alum scored a TD today in said league.

The bigger problem is UNT hasn't had a player drafted in 10 freaking years, so when La. Tech can point to players recently drafted, they can also point to our lack of a single draftee in the last 10 years and tell the recruit "we can't promise that you will be drafted if you come to Tech, but if you go to UNT, you can bet you won't get drafted. No one every gets drafted out of that place."

And they wouldn't be wrong.

Its a hinderance in head to head recruiting.

Believe it.

Ben Gooding · November 9, 2015

The bigger problem is UNT hasn't had a player drafted in 10 freaking years, so when La. Tech can point to players recently drafted, they can also point to our lack of a single draftee in the last 10 years and tell the recruit "we can't promise that you will be drafted if you come to Tech, but if you go to UNT, you can bet you won't get drafted. No one every gets drafted out of that place."
And they wouldn't be wrong.
Its a hinderance in head to head recruiting.
Believe it.

Yeah, I agree. We have guys making good money in the league, but we do need a draft pick though.

untjim1995 · November 9, 2015

The difference between La Tech and North Texas.

La Tech to it's coaches.."Win or your @ss is gone"
North Texas to it's coaches.."Chuck said you've coached in the SEC, ACC, Big 10 etc? Good enough...welcome aboard. If you need anything just leave a message on the back of this card and someone will get back to ya".

Rick

Its not just La Tech, either. Its the same at USM, too.

Here at UNT, it takes enduring the single worst loss in modern college football history to get the coach fired--4.5 years after getting hired, with 1 good season, and 0 decent recruiting seasons. And the 15-year veteran AD who hired that guy, who also hired the predecessor that goes down record-wise as the worst in school history, as well as the worst college basketball coach in our school's womens program's history, and a guy in mens hoops that is the second worst of all time here, gets to keep his job, select the next football coach, and probably gets to select the next men's basketball coach.

There's not a single other school in FBS that allows their athletic department to be led in such a dysfunctional fashion...hell, there are ISDs that have higher standards for athletic success than we have. And knowing that won't change anytime soon is just completely disgusting. And people wonder why apathy gets so accepted here. We don't give you an acceptable alternative--its either enjoy losing or go away. Either way, we don't care what you choose. We just know that enrollment is high and will get higher as the years progress, so you are easy to replace.

Edited November 9, 2015 by untjim1995

UNT90 · November 9, 2015

Its not just La Tech, either. Its the same at USM, too.
Here at UNT, it takes enduring the single worst loss in modern college football history to get the coach fired--4.5 years after getting hired, with 1 good season, and 0 decent recruiting seasons. And the 15-year veteran AD who hired that guy, who also hired the predecessor that goes down record-wise as the worst in school history, as well as the worst college basketball coach in our school's womens program's history, and a guy in mens hoops that is the second worst of all time here, gets to keep his job, select the next football coach, and probably gets to select the next men's basketball coach.
There's not a single other school in FBS that allows their athletic department to be led in such a dysfunctional fashion...hell, there are ISDs that have higher standards for athletic success than we have. And knowing that won't change anytime soon is just completely disgusting. I people wonder why apathy gets so accepted here. We don't give you an acceptable alternative--its either enjoy losing or go away. Either way, we don't care what you choose. We just know that enrollment is high and will get higher as the years progress, so you are easy to replace.

Except more will just continue to use UNT as their employment whore, get a degree and leave, never to be heard from again, meanwhile contributing to the MGC equivalent at UT, TAM, TTech, or even TCU at this point.

untjim1995 · November 9, 2015

Except more will just continue to use UNT as their employment whore, get a degree and leave, never to be heard from again, meanwhile contributing to the MGC equivalent at UT, TAM, TTech, or even TCU at this point.

And all the administration cares about is getting enrollment up, while being a great "value"--this means you get more students to draw fees from to pay for your salary, but it also makes sure that you don't cultivate very many "involved" alumni, many of whom can push influence with $$$ (see UNT 17 and RV, an area the BOR doesn't give a rip about). If you are in the administration, faculty, or on the BOR, the very last thing you want is to have loud-mouthed alumni trying to affect change--that makes your jobs harder. It certainly is that way in Austin, College Station, Lubbock, and Waco. The mindset of the leadership at UNT wants nothing to do with those headaches--they prefer the community college methodology instead--get them here, get them graduated, get them out of here.

It is what it is.