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UNT90 · October 22, 2015

Ok. I have withdrawn the money. After fees, $2050 ended up being $1881. I got the last 19 dollars.

I'll leave the account up and leave it up to you guys whether we do this again for UTSA.

What is clear from RV's interviews with the NT Daily is the only thing he cares about is himself. Not this school, not this fan base.

UNT90 · October 22, 2015

https://squareup.com/r/r1PFY5XN5B7CETY

Link to the banner receipt. A full receipt will be posted once I receive it by email and figure out how to posts it here.

Christopher Walker · October 22, 2015

Ok. I have withdrawn the money. After fees, $2050 ended up being $1881. I got the last 19 dollars.
I'll leave the account up and leave it up to you guys whether we do this again for UTSA.
What is clear from RV's interviews with the NT Daily is the only thing he cares about is himself. Not this school, not this fan base.

You mean again for UTEP?

greenjoe · October 22, 2015

I'm opposed to this tactic. I think it will have negative repercussions that have not even been thought of yet.

I hope the promoters will reconsider.

GO MEAN GREEN

UNT90 · October 22, 2015

You mean again for UTEP?

Yes.

UNT90 · October 22, 2015

I'm opposed to this tactic. I think it will have negative repercussions that have not even been thought of yet.

I hope the promoters will reconsider.

GO MEAN GREEN

I respect your opinion. I also think there will be unexpected consequences, good and bad. I've already felt some of them.

But I think it shines a light on problems a lot of people would rather keep buried.

Edited October 22, 2015 by UNT90

GreenTexan13 · October 22, 2015

I'm opposed to this tactic. I think it will have negative repercussions that have not even been thought of yet.

I hope the promoters will reconsider.

GO MEAN GREEN

What's done is done... RV has until 10/31 4PM to stop this from happening. All he has to do is step down from his job.

ladysoccereagle · October 22, 2015

The fact that you are making a banner to publicly fly at OUR football game at OUR stadium demeaning our athletic program is embarrassing and disgraceful. How do you think that comes across to "supporters" of our football program and the people that don't know anything about us and they see THAT. As a former student athlete at UNT, don't we already get enough negativity from the press and everyone else who knows about North Texas?? I believe that doing something as low as this is a huge joke. What do you get in return for flying a banner to publicly humiliate someone? How you can feel satisfied for embarrassing the University, the fans, and the team is beyond me. We are better than this. RV is not the only one making decisions, and it may be the best time for a replacement, but as humans and NT fans, this is so stupid.

wardly · October 22, 2015

+1. Any school president worth his salt is not going to be buffaloed by a banner flown by disgruntled fans. Whose next? The director of the music department?

MGNation92 · October 22, 2015

+1. Any school president worth his salt is not going to be buffaloed by a banner flown by disgruntled fans. Whose next? The director of the music department?

Why would we do that? The music department is actually successful

Army of Dad · October 22, 2015

The fact that you are making a banner to publicly fly at OUR football game at OUR stadium demeaning our athletic program is embarrassing and disgraceful. How do you think that comes across to "supporters" of our football program and the people that don't know anything about us and they see THAT. As a former student athlete at UNT, don't we already get enough negativity from the press and everyone else who knows about North Texas?? I believe that doing something as low as this is a huge joke. What do you get in return for flying a banner to publicly humiliate someone? How you can feel satisfied for embarrassing the University, the fans, and the team is beyond me. We are better than this. RV is not the only one making decisions, and it may be the best time for a replacement, but as humans and NT fans, this is so stupid.

Welcome to the board and thank you for representing the school.

Lets agree to disagree about the banner, but may I direct your attention to this?

http://www.gomeangreen.com/forums/topic/107829-gmg-soccer-classic-idea/

It's certainly very preliminary, but alumni of the soccer team might want to see that and maybe even be involved in the planing. @aztecskin would probably like to hear from you.

GMG24 · October 22, 2015

I respect your opinion. I also think there will be unexpected consequences, good and bad. I've already felt some of them.
But I think it shines a light on problems a lot of people would rather keep buried.

What consequences have you felt? I'm not sure I understand

UNT90 · October 22, 2015

As a former student athlete at UNT, don't we already get enough negativity from the press and everyone else who knows about North Texas??

To each there own, but it has already sparked a conversation that needed to be had.

To the above, this is exactly correct. And this is why an AD that has been here 15 years and failed to change that perception shouldn't be allowed to make the next head football coach hire. That shouldn't happen to you. Ever. The fact that it does shows the lack of progress this university has made under the current AD.

As far as embarrassing RV, that isn't what this is about. It's about the average donor expressing their unhappiness with someone who is about to hire the next football coach, and expressing it publicly in one of the few avenues available.

You should know a poll was taken on this sight on whether RV should be retained. The poll numbers were 151-11 in favor of termination. A good friend of RV's was very aware of this poll. After that poll, whichbRV was very aware of, RV told a reporter that the people who wanted him gone were a "small minority." It was after those comments that the banner idea was floated. People were mad that they were marginalized intentionally by the guy who spends their donations.

What consequences have you felt? I'm not sure I understand

Nothing major yet, just having to make a comment, which is the last thing I cared to do.

Im sure the club level experience for the next game probably won't be too pleasant.

I'll just hang close to @oldguystudent. He owes me one.

Edited October 22, 2015 by UNT90

UNT90 · October 22, 2015

One Liberty I did take was telling him the money would be donated to the MGC if RV left before the UTSA game.

If any donor has a problem with that, please PM me on this site or email me through the gofundme site and I will make sure you get the money you donated returned in full.

rcade · October 22, 2015

The fact that you are making a banner to publicly fly at OUR football game at OUR stadium demeaning our athletic program is embarrassing and disgraceful. How do you think that comes across to "supporters" of our football program and the people that don't know anything about us and they see THAT. As a former student athlete at UNT, don't we already get enough negativity from the press and everyone else who knows about North Texas?? I believe that doing something as low as this is a huge joke. What do you get in return for flying a banner to publicly humiliate someone? How you can feel satisfied for embarrassing the University, the fans, and the team is beyond me. We are better than this. RV is not the only one making decisions, and it may be the best time for a replacement, but as humans and NT fans, this is so stupid.

The banner isn't demeaning athletics. It's directed at a top school official who is paid handsomely -- $300,000 a year plus a maximum bonus of $65,000, per USA Today -- to deliver results.

When you were a student athlete, you had to perform on the field or you'd be off the team. McCarney had to perform as coach or get fired. Why is the AD immune from this consideration?

I understand why some fans don't like the banner. It's not nice. But anyone who is fed up with the negativity associated with our athletics should understand where our disgruntlement is coming from. It comes from watching us lose across our top sports year after year, hire after hire, while being told it's always the next hire that will be the make-or-break one, so we should just stay positive for another 3-5 years and give our AD's plan more time to work.

Doing that again with football puts us into definition of insanity territory. Its time for RV to get the same sit-down that he gave McCarney.

ladysoccereagle · October 22, 2015

The banner isn't demeaning athletics. It's directed at a top school official who is paid handsomely -- $300,000 a year plus a maximum bonus of $65,000, per USA Today -- to deliver results.
When you were a student athlete, you had to perform on the field or you'd be off the team. McCarney had to perform as coach or get fired. Why is the AD immune from this consideration?
I understand why some fans don't like the banner. It's not nice. But anyone who is fed up with the negativity associated with our athletics should understand where our disgruntlement is coming from. It comes from watching us lose across our top sports year after year, hire after hire, while being told it's always the next hire that will be the make-or-break one, so we should just stay positive for another 3-5 years and give our AD's plan more time to work.
Doing that again with football puts us into definition of insanity territory. Its time for RV to get the same sit-down that he gave McCarney.

I totally get the whole fire RV thing-I'm not opposed to changing something that's been a long time coming. I'm right there with you in supporting a change, especially being a yearly donor and season ticket holder since the stadium has been opened and seeing the same cycle happen again (I got enough of that during my school years aka Dodge era). I just there's a better way of going about this protest and don't necessarily agree with the methods of a public banner being displayed at our football game. It doesn't have anything to do with our team members and I think our guys have enough flack coming their way without this distraction.

Edited October 22, 2015 by ladysoccereagle

UNT90 · October 22, 2015

I totally get the whole fire RV thing-I'm not opposed to changing something that's been a long time coming. I'm right there with you in supporting a change, especially being a yearly donor and season ticket holder since the stadium has been opened and seeing the same cycle happen again (I got enough of that during my school years aka Dodge era). I just there's a better way of going about this protest and don't necessarily agree with the methods of a public banner being displayed at our football game. It doesn't have anything to do with our team members and I think our guys have enough flack coming their way without this distraction.

Just to be completely clear, the banner flies from 4-5PM and not during the game. That may not make a difference to your point, but I just wanted you to be clear that this banner won't be overhead as the team runs a play.

Edited October 22, 2015 by UNT90

KingDL1 · October 22, 2015

I totally get the whole fire RV thing-I'm not opposed to changing something that's been a long time coming. I'm right there with you in supporting a change, especially being a yearly donor and season ticket holder since the stadium has been opened and seeing the same cycle happen again (I got enough of that during my school years aka Dodge era). I just there's a better way of going about this protest and don't necessarily agree with the methods of a public banner being displayed at our football game. It doesn't have anything to do with our team members and I think our guys have enough flack coming their way without this distraction.

I kind of see this as a last resort short of the Highway Billboard which might be the absolute last resort in my mind. By the way the banner will only fly an hour from 4-5:00 pm and will be done an hour before the game. It will not happen at game time.

UNTFan23 · October 22, 2015

I totally get the whole fire RV thing-I'm not opposed to changing something that's been a long time coming. I'm right there with you in supporting a change, especially being a yearly donor and season ticket holder since the stadium has been opened and seeing the same cycle happen again (I got enough of that during my school years aka Dodge era). I just there's a better way of going about this protest and don't necessarily agree with the methods of a public banner being displayed at our football game. It doesn't have anything to do with our team members and I think our guys have enough flack coming their way without this distraction.

I applaud your bravery.

Ben Gooding · October 22, 2015

The fact that you are making a banner to publicly fly at OUR football game at OUR stadium demeaning our athletic program is embarrassing and disgraceful. How do you think that comes across to "supporters" of our football program and the people that don't know anything about us and they see THAT. As a former student athlete at UNT, don't we already get enough negativity from the press and everyone else who knows about North Texas?? I believe that doing something as low as this is a huge joke. What do you get in return for flying a banner to publicly humiliate someone? How you can feel satisfied for embarrassing the University, the fans, and the team is beyond me. We are better than this. RV is not the only one making decisions, and it may be the best time for a replacement, but as humans and NT fans, this is so stupid.

He publicly humiliated us to the tune of 66-7. Then every single news outlet in the country dogpiled on top of us. This will be seen by attendees of the game and local media only. I find it very doubtful that this gets anything close to the publicity that it 1) deserves or 2) 66-7 received.

Get on the train or get out of the way.

Aldo · October 22, 2015

I totally get the whole fire RV thing-I'm not opposed to changing something that's been a long time coming. I'm right there with you in supporting a change, especially being a yearly donor and season ticket holder since the stadium has been opened and seeing the same cycle happen again (I got enough of that during my school years aka Dodge era). I just there's a better way of going about this protest and don't necessarily agree with the methods of a public banner being displayed at our football game. It doesn't have anything to do with our team members and I think our guys have enough flack coming their way without this distraction.

Thank you for your support to the university and welcome to the board.

I do want to point out that many on here resorted to an e-mail and letter writing campaign to President Smatresk to voice concerns less publicly.

It was recently revealed that these letter were being sent to Villareal's office (and even made it to big money donors), and it is unknown if Smatresk even received them. This essentially stifled/silenced any of our more civil communication methods. It also showed a brash condescension of those up top.

People felt their voices weren't being heard, that there was no longer any trust to be had, and that they didn't have any more alternatives.

ESPN analysts, local sports radio producers, sports writers also agree with you about the needed change, so we are not a minority.

It sucks, I agree, but after years of lack of results, it's come to a head.

Edited October 22, 2015 by Aldo

Quoner · October 22, 2015

He publicly humiliated us to the tune of 66-7. Then every single news outlet in the country dogpiled on top of us.

A few people shrugged. A couple chuckled. Pretty much no one cared.

That's not a defense, but someone has to start fighting the dramatic horse crap you all keep echo-chambering each other to get more and more mad so you're all nice and hard when nothing happens and the metaphorical chastity belt stays locked.

Ben Gooding · October 22, 2015

A few people shrugged. A couple chuckled. Pretty much no one cared.

That's not a defense, but someone has to start fighting the dramatic horse crap you all keep echo-chambering each other to get more and more mad so you're all nice and hard when nothing happens and the metaphorical chastity belt stays locked.

And that is the issue. You typed it.

Quoner · October 22, 2015

And that is the issue. You typed it.

Yup. No one cares. If the dramatic flaming wreckage of the onfield product can't turn more heads, I'm not optimistic a prop plane and canvas can either.

Ben Gooding · October 22, 2015

Yup. No one cares. If the dramatic flaming wreckage of the onfield product can't turn more heads, I'm not optimistic a prop plane and canvas can either.

Maybe, maybe not. What will turn heads of the people on the fence or people to realize that we are finally taking things serious is a complete overhaul. We can't have that if RV is still lingering around like a wet fart. His is suspect number 1 as to why no one cares.