Ivin Jasper - Needs to be new HC at North Texas

[Ben Gooding]

http://www.navysports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jasper_ivin00.html

 

We have a long history of being sub par in recruiting, not being able to find a QB and losing. A hire of this nature very well could change all of that. It's not going to be "fun" to watch in terms of air raid or spread offense, but it wins games and the trip option can be a beautiful thing to watch unfold once it's developed. 

Irvin Jasper - His last reported salary was a surprising 440K. Either way,  I believe we can offer him 4 year 3.6 million dollar deal. He has a ton of experience coaching at Navy and has had a lot of success. To me, this would be a fantastic hire. 

[SilverEagle]

I agree that their triple option is a thing of beauty to watch.

In most of the discussion about what our next coach needs to be like, the main criteria has been.......

1. Young hungry up-and-coming coach.

Coach Jasper has been comfortably ensconced at Navy for 12 years.  Has he actively looked for a HC gig? Has anyone come after him? With the type of offense he's experienced in running, Ga. Tech is the only school I could think of that might be interested.

2. Texas ties, able to recruit in Texas

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3. relationship with Texas HS coaches & once again, able to recruit in Texas

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4. Able to recruit QB talent in Texas

Well, I suppose he would be great at recruiting HS QB's in Texas if any of them were interested in the triple option. But haven't we already seen how interested HS QB's in Texas are with a run-first offense?

 

[Ben Gooding]

We won't need to worry about recruiting the QB so heavily. That is what is great about this kind of offensive philosophy. We need a QB that can run. Find a CB or S that has a decent football IQ and can sling the ball around a little. RB's will want to come here. They always have and always will and if anything this creates a bigger incentive for them to come here. I don't care about Texas ties in the event this kind of system comes to town. This is truly an offensive system where X's and O's player a bigger role than the Jimmy's and Joe's. 

[Mean Green 93-98]

But haven't we already seen how interested HS QB's in Texas are with a run-first offense?

 

I don't buy that that was the only reason, or even the primary reason, that we couldn't sign a decent Texas HS QB.  With the exception of Ole Miss, SEC teams all have a much higher run:pass ratio than we do.  Dickey's offense was much more run-first than Mac's, and he generally recruited at least decent QBs.  I just really don't think Coach Mac understood recruiting, and especially recruiting in Texas.

[SilverEagle]

I don't buy that that was the only reason, or even the primary reason, that we couldn't sign a decent Texas HS QB.  With the exception of Ole Miss, SEC teams all have a much higher run:pass ratio than we do.  Dickey's offense was much more run-first than Mac's, and he generally recruited at least decent QBs.  I just really don't think Coach Mac understood recruiting, and especially recruiting in Texas.

He didn't understand how to recruit TO North Texas

[Eagle-96]

No to the triple option. If you think we can't a QB now just wait til we regress 40 years in offensive philosophy. We need to go with the trend in offense not against it. High schools run the spread now. High school players know how to run it. Coaches know how to coach it.

[UNT90]

Because going with the trend has worked so well for UNT...

I bet you are some of the same people who were yelling and screaming at Dodge to recruit a tight end. 

Here is an idea. Let's hire a head coach that has consistently put more points on the board per game than his opposition. Let's try that new trend, at least for UNT. Winning. 

But if you are going to go triple option, Willie Fritz should be the guy you go get. Navy is a higher profile job than UNT. It's that simple.

Edited October 17, 2015 by UNT90

[Harry]

I like Fritz because he's a winner and damn good recruiter.

I hate the idea of running the triple option.  I don't think I can live with that.  I will continue to think on this.

[SilverEagle]

Because going with the trend has worked so well for UNT...

I bet you are some of the same people who were yelling and screaming at Dodge to recruit a tight end. 

Here is an idea. Let's hire a head coach that has consistently put more points on the board per game than his opposition. Let's try that new trend, at least for UNT. Winning. 

But if you are going to go triple option, Willie Fritz should be the guy you go get. Navy is a higher profile job than UNT. It's that simple.

...and (with 12 years on the job) obviously more secure. 

Unless your an AD.

[Ben Gooding]

Because going with the trend has worked so well for UNT...

I bet you are some of the same people who were yelling and screaming at Dodge to recruit a tight end. 

Here is an idea. Let's hire a head coach that has consistently put more points on the board per game than his opposition. Let's try that new trend, at least for UNT. Winning. 

But if you are going to go triple option, Willie Fritz should be the guy you go get. Navy is a higher profile job than UNT. It's that simple.

Maybe so...but Navy pays Irvin 440k whereas he could make double that here at UNT. The more I think about it, the more the triple option makes sense at UNT. We can't recruit, historically. We just can't. This kind of philosophy puts less emphasis on recruiting. We won't need above average QB play to have success. We won't need great players on defense because our D won't be exposed every game because we should win the TOP every single game. It would create close, nerve racking football games and in many times I am sure ugly games, but the triple option works in today's football climate. Teams aren't use to defending it and that is a competitive advantage every time the team walks onto the field. 

Maybe so...but Navy pays Irvin 440k whereas he could make double that here at UNT. Also, Irvin isn't the HC there. He's the OC. The more I think about it, the more the triple option makes sense at UNT. We can't recruit, historically. We just can't. This kind of philosophy puts less emphasis on recruiting. We won't need above average QB play to have success. We won't need great players on defense because our D won't be exposed every game because we should win the TOP every single game. It would create close, nerve racking football games and in many times I am sure ugly games, but the triple option works in today's football climate. Teams aren't use to defending it and that is a competitive advantage every time the team walks onto the field. 

[UNT90]

Willie Fritz also has a buttload of Texas ties. Don't know about the Navy guy.

And just because it's triple option, don't think that means Fritz's teams couldn't score. Last year, his lowest point total was 22 in a late season win over ULM. They scored 23 in a 24-23 loss to NC St. 

Aside from those 2 games, the next lowest is 28 in 2 games, and every other game (8 of them) they scored 30 or more, including 38 in a 4 point loss to Georgia Tech.

We haven't done that in the last 5 years. 

Dont be so quick to judge a triple option book by it's cover.

Edited October 17, 2015 by UNT90

[man-up UNT]

yeah, and we can run the wishbone, you're a complete idiot!

[Got5onIt]

Georgia Tech doesn't do too bad with it. 

[Green92]

Any type of run first offense doesn't do much for me either.  Mac's success 2 years ago did do us a favor for today.  We are in a better position to get a better qualified coach than we were 4 years ago.  I think some of the up and coming coaches are going to take notice. A million bucks is worth taking a chance on NT. 

[UNT90]

I like Fritz because he's a winner and damn good recruiter.

I hate the idea of running the triple option.  I don't think I can live with that.  I will continue to think on this.

I don't care if we run the single wing, Harry, aslong as we win football games.

Fritz knows how to build a program and win football games.

Thats all I care about.

yeah, and we can run the wishbone, you're a complete idiot!

I'd run the wishbone in 2 seconds if it meant going undefeated in conference play while winning 9 games.

Thats what Fritz did last year, with an FBS transitional program playing their first year at the FBS level. 

This year? 4-1 with a loss to West Virginia. They have scored over 40 points in every win and again are in first place in the Sun Belt. 

So, instead of coming with insults, why don't you explain exactly HOW you would like to see UNT win, since the HOW appears so important to you. Maybe you should check our history the last 40 years a little closer. 

Edited October 17, 2015 by UNT90

[EagleMBA]

Any offensive scheme that can consistently score points and eat clock to keep our defense on the sideline is a good offense.

[cdizzle86]

Please no triple option. We already have attendance problems and the last thing we need is a boring style of play

[UNT90]

Please no triple option. We already have attendance problems and the last thing we need is a boring style of play

Did you not see they are scoring over 40 a game against non-P5s? 

Jesus, people, entertaining football doesn't sell out stadiums. WINNING DOES!!! 

Tell me, what was the attendance for the next home game after we lost to Navy 145-128? Because with that type of "entertainment," the next game should have been standing room only. Not even close. 

Why? Because we sucked. 

Win. Any freaking way you can. 

[Ben Gooding]

Did you not see they are scoring over 40 a game against non-P5s? 

Jesus, people, entertaining football doesn't sell out stadiums. WINNING DOES!!! 

Tell me, what was the attendance for the next home game after we lost to Navy 145-128? Because with that type of "entertainment," the next game should have been standing room only. Not even close. 

Why? Because we sucked. 

Win. Any freaking way you can. 

Bingo! The trip option will never allow us to be World beaters, but it will allow us to consistently win 6-7-8-9 games a year...CONSISTENLY. It is also a true reload-type offense. Sure, there are QB's who will run the system better than others, but it truly is a plug and go kind of system that is extremely hard to prepare for. 

[UNT90]

Bingo! The trip option will never allow us to be World beaters, but it will allow us to consistently win 6-7-8-9 games a year...CONSISTENLY. It is also a true reload-type offense. Sure, there are QB's who will run the system better than others, but it truly is a plug and go kind of system that is extremely hard to prepare for. 

I want to make this very clear. I'm not advocating for the triple option, I'm advocating for Willie Fritz. 

Because he wins.

[Christopher Walker]

I like Fritz because he's a winner and damn good recruiter.

I hate the idea of running the triple option.  I don't think I can live with that.  I will continue to think on this.

I want to make this very clear. I'm not advocating for the triple option, I'm advocating for Willie Fritz. 

Because he wins.

The only reason Fritz runs the Triple Option is because he coaches at Georgia Southern, and you couldn't run anything but the Triple Option in Statesboro lest you wanted a mutiny on your hands. People down there are... scary whenever someone threatens one of their football traditions.

[UNT90]

The only reason Fritz runs the Triple Option is because he coaches at Georgia Southern, and you couldn't run anything but the Triple Option in Statesboro lest you wanted a mutiny on your hands. People down there are... scary whenever someone threatens one of their football traditions.

Thank you for pointing that out. He has been forced to run the triple option, and has adapted and excelled.

He ran a hybrid spread option at Sam Houston. Read here:

http://m.savannahnow.com/sports/2014-08-23/gsu-counts-new-coach-willie-fritz-lead-eagles-fbs-success#gsc.tab=0

Another point in his favor. 

[FirefightnRick]

I love the idea of the triple option.  It would allow our opponents barely 4 days a year to prepare for it, and a pro set with tightends can be run out of it.  Just takes a little bit of imagination.

 

Rick

[ADLER]

There is very little gamble involved with Willie Fritz. Put plainly, he wins, and he has won everywhere that he's coached.

The only possible drawback for Fritz is that his services will command a premium salary since he is now a proven commodity on the Division 1 level.

Can North Texas afford what Fritz would be asking? It would certainly be amongst the higher CUSA payrolls for Fritz and his staff.

[cdizzle86]

Count me out. I'd rather have briles, meachem, or cumbie. Kids in Texas want to play spread, not triple option.

Edited October 18, 2015 by cdizzle86