Would You Give Canales A 1 Year Chance

[El Paso Eagle]

Would you be supportive if Canales was given next year to see what he could do?

[H-towngreen]

I like the guy but no

[MGNation92]

Yes, but only to listen to him talk in the third person. Chico gonna Chico

[SilverEagle]

Yes but two years. But with that kind of time restriction, he's only going to be able to recruit Juco's and transfers. 

[southsideguy]

i would as long as he hires a new dc.

[Ben Gooding]

No. We need new blood TOP to BOTTOM. 

[greenminer]

Nope.

Find our new HC, sign him to 5 years as soon as you decide.

[Mean_Green09]

I dont think he wants to be here after this year.

[Matt from A700]

Our offense looked better than it has all season last night, but I still believe a clean slate is the best for the program.

[trud1966]

My gut says no.   Now, if we somehow managed to win 5 out of the last 6 games, I'd say possibly, but the odds are against him.   Hell, I knew we'd get killed last night, but if nothing else, it was entertaining at times to watch Smith at QB. 

[HarringtonFishSmeller]

No.  After watching the game last night, no.  Do the kids have more energy?  Yes.  But, they are are same players - that he helped recruit and coach.

We have nothing at quarterback, receiver, on the line, on offense.  We've got nothing, anywhere, on defense.  Our safeties lead the conference in tackles...but, that's indicative of nothing but how bad the front seven is.  And, they are torched in pass defense.

I like Chico.  But, sitting out there last night...I like Mike, but it's the same team.  We are woefully bereft of talent. 

The truth is, WKU could have named their score against us last night.  They showed great restraint in not hanging 70+ on us.  They packed it up in the third quarter, and had third teamers in by the end of the game.

Amazing how far the drop has been over the past two seasons.  And, outside of kicker and punter, at every position on the team.  It's a mess.   

[UNTDoc]

My head says no, but my heart...also says no. We need a new fresh start all the way around, from the AD on down.

[Ben Gooding]

No.  After watching the game last night, no.  Do the kids have more energy?  Yes.  But, they are are same players - that he helped recruit and coach.

We have nothing at quarterback, receiver, on the line, on offense.  We've got nothing, anywhere, on defense.  Our safeties lead the conference in tackles...but, that's indicative of nothing but how bad the front seven is.  And, they are torched in pass defense.

I like Chico.  But, sitting out there last night...I like Mike, but it's the same team.  We are woefully bereft of talent. 

The truth is, WKU could have named their score against us last night.  They showed great restraint in not hanging 70+ on us.  They packed it up in the third quarter, and had third teamers in by the end of the game.

Amazing how far the drop has been over the past two seasons.  And, outside of kicker and punter, at every position on the team.  It's a mess.   

There is D1 talent scattered throughout the team. Roderick Young, Tee Goree, Tillman Johnson, Kaydon Kirby, Kishawn Mcclain, Jareid Combs, Jeff Wilson, Carlos Harris and D Smith and in my honest opinion that is it. These are the players that could be inserted into 90% of rosters in CUSA and see significant playing time and/or start. Teams are finding holes away from these players in our roster and are exploiting those areas on O and D. hence our 50-17 average score. There is D1 talent on this roster though, that is for sure. The problem is...there just isn't much of it. 

Edited October 16, 2015 by Ben Gooding

[rcade]

Would you be supportive if Canales was given next year to see what he could do?

No. You gotta give a new coach enough contract years for players, recruits and the fan base to have confidence in him. A coach given a provisional deal like that would be at too much of a disadvantage.

[casual fan]

Yes....but.......only if  Canales wins some games and you can't find the guy you want.

In that scenario he might turn out to be the guy you want after one full season.

Portland crushed us with a one year interum hire. 

Who knows, Canales might be our Bruce Barnum.

[meangreenacct]

No...way too much risk that it could set us even further back in recruiting.

[ColoradoEagle]

Would you be supportive if Canales was given next year to see what he could do?

[Mean Green Eagle]

I don't think so. I'd just see it as an extra year to wait to begin righting the ship. 

[UNT90]

Good Lord, people...

No... As strongly as no can ever be stated

[Bundy]

NO, ¡No!, 不！, Nee!, Non!, Nein!, Κανένα!, לא!, まさか！, Não!, Нет!, Không có! , H-E-Double Hockey Stick NO!!!

[Quoner]

 

Who knows, Canales might be our Bruce Barnum.

[Cerebus]

People, no HS kid is going to commit to a school where the guys who recruited him might not be there when he is a RS Sophomore.  If you only trust Chico enough to give him a 2 year contract you don't trust him enough to hire him.

[gangrene]

Yes, but only if we beat Tennessee 66-7.

[Cr1028]

I won't be prepared to answer until at least Halloween.

[HarringtonFishSmeller]

There is D1 talent scattered throughout the team. Roderick Young, Tee Goree, Tillman Johnson, Kaydon Kirby, Kishawn Mcclain, Jareid Combs, Jeff Wilson, Carlos Harris and D Smith and in my honest opinion that is it. These are the players that could be inserted into 90% of rosters in CUSA and see significant playing time and/or start. Teams are finding holes away from these players in our roster and are exploiting those areas on O and D. hence our 50-17 average score. There is D1 talent on this roster though, that is for sure. The problem is...there just isn't much of it. 

I agree.  I just don't see as much of it as you do.  The series last night that did me in with Smith was the three straight incompletions where he:

-On first down, throws the ball into the ground on a wide open slant
-On second down, overthrows the receiver and almost has the ball intercepted, on what looked like the exact same slant call
-On third down, threw to the receiver whose corner had safety help over the top and had the pass broke up

The balls he throws for distance hang in the air way too long.  Most are wobbly.  The shorter throws, he has no touch on - all throw very hard. He's not all that accurate, and has no touch.  And, doesn't seem to be able to read where the safeties are.  He fumbles the ball a ton. 

None of this is to say anyone else on the roster is better.  It's just to say that, if this is improvement, we need a couple of new QBs as well as with the new coach next year. 

Somebody else already posted what he did against WKU's ones.  I know that before WKU went up 35-7, he was something like 4 for 16.  I mean, I'm happy he did better against their twos and threes.  But...it's a long leap of faith for me to say he's an FBS.  Many colleges need quarterbacks...and, we didn't have much competition for him when he came out of JUCO.  That's all I'm saying.  Coaches watch a lot more film than just youtube highlight clips. 

Many of the others you named had more FCS offers than FBS offers.  Like with our quarterbacks, I'm certain they would all be All-Conference-type players at FCS schools...perhaps even the current version of the Sun Belt.   Like with Combs, it lists us and Texas State.

Okay...we all agree that we didn't believe than with Dan MCarney, we'd still be fighting with Texas State for recruits after five years.  But, that's what it came down to.  And, that's why we are in the position we are in now at every position except kicker and punter.  And, by golly, we've got TWO punters!

Yes....but.......only if  Canales wins some games and you can't find the guy you want.

In that scenario he might turn out to be the guy you want after one full season.

Portland crushed us with a one year interum hire. 

Who knows, Canales might be our Bruce Barnum.

The only game we have a chance at winning is the UTEP game.  They are the only school remaining whose QB situation is as screwed up as ours...but, we get them at home.  So...advantage us.