Coker, Franchione on way out?

Harry · October 13, 2015

One mid-major coaching job (North Texas) already is open in Texas, and insiders tell GN there could be two more.

Changes aren’t necessarily imminent at Texas State and UT San Antonio, but they could happen. Both schools are coached by big names. Dennis Franchione, 64, is at Texas State and Larry Coker, 67, is at UTSA, and each has overseen his school’s move into the FBS ranks.

Texas State, which is in the Sun Belt, became a FBS program in 2012. Franchione, who has coached at Alabama and Texas A&M among others, came aboard after the 2010 season to help the school move from the FCS ranks. Texas State is 1-4 this season; the Bobcats were 7-5 last season but overlooked for a bowl. They won six games in 2011 and ’13 and won four in 2012.

read more: http://gridironnow.com/larry-coker-dennis-franchione-on-way-out/

greenit · October 13, 2015

If they have competent leadership, they know they can't let UNT gather all the buzz this offseason while they are mired in mediocrity at the moment.

Harry · October 13, 2015

If they have competent leadership, they know they can't let UNT gather all the buzz this offseason while they are mired in mediocrity at the moment.

My point is there are already 4-5 jobs open and there could be a lot more by the end of the season. We HAVE to make ourselves as attractive as we can..

TheColonyEagle · October 13, 2015

It will be interesting if true seeing 2 schools that have made great strides in recent years not resting on their laurels. Almost like saying,"thanks for getting us to this point but we need someone to take us to the next level"

There doesn't appear to be tenure being offered in their athletic dept.

HarringtonFishSmeller · October 13, 2015

Those two have moved their programs into higher competition levels, and have not been able to get the talent up to speed.

Again, being a non-brand school, it's hard to gain excellent talent year in and year out - yes, even in Texas.

(REMINDER: Just ONE national title from a Texas-based University since 1970. One. Just being in Texas, where there are many good recruits, isn't enough.)

VideoEagle · October 13, 2015

My point is there are already 4-5 jobs open and there could be a lot more by the end of the season. We HAVE to make ourselves as attractive as we can..

Yes, we need to show we are not a minor school anymore and are willing to behave like a bigger school. We don't have to act like UT or A&M, but we can't keep operating like Sam Houston State!

Mean_Green09 · October 13, 2015

My point is there are already 4-5 jobs open and there could be a lot more by the end of the season. We HAVE to make ourselves as attractive as we can..

With RV its nearly impossible. Word is spreading around agents that North Texas may be a toxic job with the current AD. They will tell their clients to say no thanks. And then there is also the fact that RV might not listen to all who are intrested. He might be sold on one guy already. He wont interview multiple candidates.

Eagle1855 · October 13, 2015

(REMINDER: Just ONE national title from a Texas-based University since 1970. One. Just being in Texas, where there are many good recruits, isn't enough.)

To your point, there have only been 4 titles in Texas since 1963 -- and all of them were the same school.

Meanwhile in Alabama...

HarringtonFishSmeller · October 13, 2015

To your point, there have only been 4 titles in Texas since 1963 -- and all of them were the same school.
Meanwhile in Alabama...

Pssht...meanwhile in Florida. The Gators, FSU, and Miami have run circles around Texas schools as far as national titles.

Same thing can be said for California. USC earned titles in '72, '74, '78, and '03. No other California school despite the plethora of talent there. And, huge gap between titles even for USC.

So, what can you say? In Texas and California, high school talent talks the championship talk; but, in Florida, they actually walk the walk.

Take it regionally. Number of national titles in the Southeast - All three major Florida schools, Alabama and Auburn, Georgia, Clemson, LSU, Tennessee, and Georgia Tech, all since 1970.

Since 1970, AP National Titles
1970: Nebraska (UPI - Texas)
1971: Nebraska
1972: USC
1973: Notre Dame (UPI - Alabama)
1974: Oklahoma (UPI - USC)
1975: Oklahoma
1976: Pitt (Jackie Sherrill's national title)
1977: Notre Dame
1978: Alabama (UPI - USC)
1979: Alabama

1980: Georgia
1981: Clemson
1982: Penn State
1983: Miami
1984: BYU
1985: Oklahoma
1986: Penn State
1987: Miami
1988: Notre Dame
1989: Miami

1990: Colorado (UPI - Georgia Tech)
1991: Miami (UPI - Washington)
1992: Alabama
1993: Florida State
1994: Nebraska
1995: Nebraska
1996: Florida
1997: Michigan (Coaches now voting ESPN, not UPI - Nebraska)
1998: Tennessee
1999: Florida State

2000: Oklahoma
2001: Miami
2002: Ohio State
2003: USC (ESPN - LSU)
2004: (USC vacated)
2005: Texas
2006: Florida
2007: LSU
2008: Florida
2009: Alabama

2010: Auburn
2011: Alabama
2012: Alabama
2013: Florida State
2014: Ohio State

Not many championships out West, or above the Mason-Dixon line. Where's the best talent: Texas, California, or Florida? I'd say Florida beats out Texas and California; then, Cali over Texas...if, we're going by national titles. And, regionally, the Southeast has easily been the best since at least 1970.

Someone in Texas will have to walk the walk someday. No Texas school has ever won back-to-back AP titles. And, only consecutive years Texas schools won AP titles was 1938 (TCU) and 1939 (Texas A&M). Those are the only titles TCU and A&M ever won.

Edited October 13, 2015 by HarringtonFishSmeller

UTSA Fan · October 13, 2015

Those two have moved their programs into higher competition levels, and have not been able to get the talent up to speed.
Again, being a non-brand school, it's hard to gain excellent talent year in and year out - yes, even in Texas.
(REMINDER: Just ONE national title from a Texas-based University since 1970. One. Just being in Texas, where there are many good recruits, isn't enough.)

I have to disagree. UTSA has had d2 talent playing before this year (started program with players not having other offers) and done well in that context. They are very competitive now with 23 underclassmen on the 2 deep. In the next 2-3 seasons they will kick ass and not worry about taking names.

TIgreen01 · October 13, 2015

I have to disagree. UTSA has had d2 talent playing before this year (started program with players not having other offers) and done well in that context. They are very competitive now with 23 underclassmen on the 2 deep. In the next 2-3 seasons they will kick ass and not worry about taking names.

Agreed. If UTSA fires Coker, then their AD management isn't as good as we all think it is. He just graduated 35+ players and is basically having to start over. He gets a pass this year, and probably at least half of next.

CMJ · October 14, 2015

Pssht...meanwhile in Florida. The Gators, FSU, and Miami have run circles around Texas schools as far as national titles.
Same thing can be said for California. USC earned titles in '72, '74, '78, and '03. No other California school despite the plethora of talent there. And, huge gap between titles even for USC.
So, what can you say? In Texas and California, high school talent talks the championship talk; but, in Florida, they actually walk the walk.
Take it regionally. Number of national titles in the Southeast - All three major Florida schools, Alabama and Auburn, Georgia, Clemson, LSU, Tennessee, and Georgia Tech, all since 1970.
Since 1970, AP National Titles
1970: Nebraska (UPI - Texas)
1971: Nebraska
1972: USC
1973: Notre Dame (UPI - Alabama)
1974: Oklahoma (UPI - USC)
1975: Oklahoma
1976: Pitt (Jackie Sherrill's national title)
1977: Notre Dame
1978: Alabama (UPI - USC)
1979: Alabama
1980: Georgia
1981: Clemson
1982: Penn State
1983: Miami
1984: BYU
1985: Oklahoma
1986: Penn State
1987: Miami
1988: Notre Dame
1989: Miami

1990: Colorado (UPI - Georgia Tech)
1991: Miami (UPI - Washington)
1992: Alabama
1993: Florida State
1994: Nebraska
1995: Nebraska
1996: Florida
1997: Michigan (Coaches now voting ESPN, not UPI - Nebraska)
1998: Tennessee
1999: Florida State

2000: Oklahoma
2001: Miami
2002: Ohio State
2003: USC (ESPN - LSU)
2004: (USC vacated)
2005: Texas
2006: Florida
2007: LSU
2008: Florida
2009: Alabama

2010: Auburn
2011: Alabama
2012: Alabama
2013: Florida State
2014: Ohio State

Not many championships out West, or above the Mason-Dixon line. Where's the best talent: Texas, California, or Florida? I'd say Florida beats out Texas and California; then, Cali over Texas...if, we're going by national titles. And, regionally, the Southeast has easily been the best since at least 1970.
Someone in Texas will have to walk the walk someday. No Texas school has ever won back-to-back AP titles. And, only consecutive years Texas schools won AP titles was 1938 (TCU) and 1939 (Texas A&M). Those are the only titles TCU and A&M ever won.