MGB: McCarney says there is no such thing as a "gamer"

[UNTexas]

Good coaches defend their players. This coach throws his players, specifically backup QBs, under the bus every chance he gets. It's his trend.

He's not a very bright head coach when he speaks publicly. More over, he's not a good leader and pretty classless.

[Got5onIt]

Well, Dan if this is what you think, why don't you make Smith the #1 in practice and do everything you possibly can to prepare him for Saturday??????????????????????????? How hard is that??????????????

[Cr1028]

Anyone who has played almost at any level, knows that indeed there are a lot of players that absolutely raise their performances level on game days.  I can't believe any coach would believe any different.

Now, there are also a lot of coaches that believe that rewarding players who don't show up in practices is a bad practice.  You can effectively argue that point on the basis it does more harm than help to a team to devalue practice performance.   I can understand this stance, but to deny that "gamers" do not exist is nonsensical. 

This guy agrees.

 

Here is the thing why was DaMarcus Smith out there in first place? I think its a fair question for Mac. If he has these inconsistencies in practice and you dont trust him why did he even see the field taking meaningful snaps? Mac is such a big proponent of practicing well, yet he allows a kid to play who doesnt practice well? Why? Why throw dirt on the kid?

Oh wait he changed some plays on the field that he wasnt supposed to, so you're gonna punish him and talk bad about him. But arent you already punishing him for missing spring ball? 

Oh wait you dont have excuses do you? Oh you do.

Please Sir step away from this university. Step away from this program. 

Stop running from the truth Mac. You have no idea what you're doing. You never did with QBs and you never will. 

Honestly, I think Mac threw him out there knowing he would fail so we would all shut up about him.

[UNT90]

And, the difference between Mullins and Smith is that Mullins has been developing for three years continuously while Smith has been bouncing from program to program to program.  There is no time to "develop" Smith.  He's as bad as McNulty.

People are acting as though there is a difference between McNulty and Smith.  Other than one qualified out of high school and didn't spend his career transferring every year, there is no difference at all.  Which is sad. 

With either Smith or McNulty, we have no chance outside of the Portland State game this weekend to win another game this season.

This is an uneducated opinion. You have seen 3 series from Smith. His first 3 series in FBS, for all intents and purposes. How did Mullens first 3 series go?

You are right. It took Mullens 2 years (not 3 as you stated) to develop. Unfortunately, we only have 2 years total with Smith. Unless you believe Means is better, Smith needs to be on the field so he has the CHANCE to develop.

Will he? Don't know.

Won't ever know if he isn't out there.

[GreenTexan13]

2.5 years to go, folks

If that's the case, a lot of us are going to checked out by then.  Coach Hypocrite... I mean coach Mac is just stealing money from the university at this point going forward.

[Cr1028]

This is an uneducated opinion. You have seen 3 series from Smith. His first 3 series in FBS, for all intents and purposes. How did Mullens first 3 series go?

You are right. It took Mullens 2 years (not 3 as you stated) to develop. Unfortunately, we only have 2 years total with Smith. Unless you believe Means is better, Smith needs to be on the field so he has the CHANCE to develop.

Will he? Don't know.

Won't ever know if he isn't out there.

But here is a wild question. Let's just say hypothetically that Smith was overrated out of high school and really isn't that good. How long to we just stick it out with him before we give up and say "you know what, maybe this guy just isn't that good." ?

[UNT90]

But here is a wild question. Let's just say hypothetically that Smith was overrated out of high school and really isn't that good. How long to we just stick it out with him before we give up and say "you know what, maybe this guy just isn't that good." ?

That is the question. It took Mullens over a year to adjust to FBS competition. One would think the transition from high level JC ball to FBS would be less of a hurdle than high school. 

The more depressing question is what are UNT's other options? 

Edited October 6, 2015 by UNT90

[MeanGreenTexan]

And, the difference between Mullins and Smith is that Mullins has been developing for three years continuously while Smith has been bouncing from program to program to program.  There is no time to "develop" Smith.  He's as bad as McNulty.

People are acting as though there is a difference between McNulty and Smith.  Other than one qualified out of high school and didn't spend his career transferring every year, there is no difference at all.  Which is sad. 

With either Smith or McNulty, we have no chance outside of the Portland State game this weekend to win another game this season.

We have not seen nearly enough out of Smith to know this.

[foutsrouts]

And, the difference between Mullins and Smith is that Mullins has been developing for three years continuously while Smith has been bouncing from program to program to program.  There is no time to "develop" Smith.  He's as bad as McNulty.

People are acting as though there is a difference between McNulty and Smith.  Other than one qualified out of high school and didn't spend his career transferring every year, there is no difference at all.  Which is sad. 

With either Smith or McNulty, we have no chance outside of the Portland State game this weekend to win another game this season.

There is no such thing as there being no difference at all between two human beings. Hitler and Stalin both liked to kill, but they were very different people. I guess I can understand where you developed your impressions if you're either on the team, are McNulty's father, or are Mac himself.

[UNT90]

And, the difference between Mullins and Smith is that Mullins has been developing for three years continuously while Smith has been bouncing from program to program to program.  There is no time to "develop" Smith.  He's as bad as McNulty.

People are acting as though there is a difference between McNulty and Smith.  Other than one qualified out of high school and didn't spend his career transferring every year, there is no difference at all.  Which is sad. 

With either Smith or McNulty, we have no chance outside of the Portland State game this weekend to win another game this season.

Oh, and there is one HUGE difference between McNulty and Smith:

ARM STRENGTH.

They are not the same in that catagory at all. 

[MGNation92]

Oh, and there is one HUGE difference between McNulty and Smith:

ARM STRENGTH.

They are not the same in that catagory at all. 

Arm strength isn't everything. Jay Cutler has a stronger arm than Tom Brady, but I would take Brady 10/10 times. Not to say Mcnuggets is anywhere remotely close to that, but arm strength with shitty decision making is still shitty decision making

[UNT90]

Arm strength isn't everything. Jay Cutler has a stronger arm than Tom Brady, but I would take Brady 10/10 times. Not to say Mcnuggets is anywhere remotely close to that, but arm strength with shitty decision making is still shitty decision making

Lol.

Not even a comparison to make in this situation.

Smith has FBS level arm strength. McNulty doesn't have the arm strength of many FCS QBs. And he will never develop past where he is. 

When you can't even threaten to throw anything past 20 yards, your offense suffers. We know this.  

[Cr1028]

That is the question. It took Mullens over a year to adjust to FBS competition. One would think the transition from high level JC ball to FBS would be less of a hurdle than high school. 

The more depressing question is what are UNT's other options? 

A valid point on JUCO. Now another hypothetical. Let's say that Smith is able to impress us in garbage time of games we're losing like Dajon did last year(He hasn't done anything close to what Dajon did in his relief snaps last year). Then, he comes in and performs equally to Dajon's performance last year. He has one good game and then 2 turnover-filled bad games. Do we then sit him for good? He is a redshirt junior and not a redshirt freshman like Dajon was. We only have a limited time frame to develop him into a legit FBS qb.

[UNT90]

A valid point on JUCO. Now another hypothetical. Let's say that Smith is able to impress us in garbage time of games we're losing like Dajon did last year(He hasn't done anything close to what Dajon did in his relief snaps last year). Then, he comes in and performs equally to Dajon's performance last year. He has one good game and then 2 turnover-filled bad games. Do we then sit him for good? He is a redshirt junior and not a redshirt freshman like Dajon was. We only have a limited time frame to develop him into a legit FBS qb.

I think the answer is to give him the rest of the season, unless he is clearly Josh Greer bad. Leave him out there. You will know by the end of the season if you need to find YET ANOTHER JUCO QB to come in and compete for a starting job.

If you do, the people evaluating QBs don't need to be here any longer (OC and head coach)

 

Edited October 6, 2015 by UNT90

[Andrew]

McNultys career stats are enough to end this conversation. He has Iike twice as many INTS as passing touchdowns and far more fumbles than rushing TDs. He has been an epic failure and continues to start. How many games has McNulty won over the past 2 seasons? I am just guessing his overall record is something like 2-14 at the best. He doesn't play well and he doesn't win. It's that simple!

Edited October 7, 2015 by Andrew

[Mean_Green09]

The QB situation isn't on McNulty. It's not his decision. It's not his job to say who starts or who sits. It's not his job to call plays. It's not his job to evaluate talent. 

Anyone who thinks this is McNultys fault is just wrong. 

This is all on McCarney and his staff. No reason for us to throw McNulty under the bus anymore. He has competed to the best of his ability. Which isn't much. Let's not act McNulty was a prime QB prospect who has underperformed. He has probably outperformed low expectations. He should've never been a starter at this level. 

[Cerebus]

The QB situation isn't on McNulty. It's not his decision. It's not his job to say who starts or who sits. It's not his job to call plays. It's not his job to evaluate talent. 

Anyone who thinks this is McNultys fault is just wrong. 

This is all on McCarney and his staff. No reason for us to throw McNulty under the bus anymore. He has competed to the best of his ability. Which isn't much. Let's not act McNulty was a prime QB prospect who has underperformed. He has probably outperformed low expectations. He should've never been a starter at this level. 

+1 trillion.

 

[UNT90]

The QB situation isn't on McNulty. It's not his decision. It's not his job to say who starts or who sits. It's not his job to call plays. It's not his job to evaluate talent. 

Anyone who thinks this is McNultys fault is just wrong. 

This is all on McCarney and his staff. No reason for us to throw McNulty under the bus anymore. He has competed to the best of his ability. Which isn't much. Let's not act McNulty was a prime QB prospect who has underperformed. He has probably outperformed low expectations. He should've never been a starter at this level. 

He should have been a safety walk on at this level.

And you are absolutely right. This isn't his fault. This is completely on the coaching staff for failure to recruit and develop a legitimate FBS QB.

[EagleMBA]

I think the answer is to give him the rest of the season, unless he is clearly Josh Greer bad. Leave him out there. You will know by the end of the season if you need to find YET ANOTHER JUCO QB to come in and compete for a starting job.

If you do, the people evaluating QBs don't need to be here any longer (OC and head coach)

 

This. A corollary benefit is that it gives fans a reason to attend games.

[Cr1028]

Leaders make sacrifices. If he was truly a leader he would tell the coaches he isn't interested in starting again. Instead he should tell them he wants to mentor Smith and help him become a great starting QB.

Any college football player who  tells his coach he wants to ride the bench because someone else is better than him should have his scholarship revoked and be kicked off the team.

[greenit]

McNulty = Brandon Weeden.  And look what he has done for the Cowboys.

 

Same complaints about Weeden.  Doesn't throw it down field.  Defense stacks the box to prevent run and short passes due to no deep threat.  Did the Cowboys OC all of a sudden become turrible?

 

[foutsrouts]

A valid point on JUCO. Now another hypothetical. Let's say that Smith is able to impress us in garbage time of games we're losing like Dajon did last year(He hasn't done anything close to what Dajon did in his relief snaps last year). Then, he comes in and performs equally to Dajon's performance last year. He has one good game and then 2 turnover-filled bad games. Do we then sit him for good? He is a redshirt junior and not a redshirt freshman like Dajon was. We only have a limited time frame to develop him into a legit FBS qb.

Which is why we need to start developing him now, so that we can possibly start him next year and begin developing the next guy. Greer is not the answer to anything. Unless we think that going 6-1 from here on out (Tennessee is a guaranteed loss) is a possibility, this season is pretty much meaningless at this point and time. Begin developing someone (anyone) besides the lame duck named McNulty.

[Side Show Joe]

I think the game has passed Mac by. All of us have seen "Gamers" throughout our days playing the game, and we know they exist at the college level too.

Mac likes to argue that McNulty gets it done in practice and that is why he is our starter. The problem may be that getting it done in our practice is easier then getting it done against other FBS defenses.

Many of us cautioned against McNulty being our starter heading into this season because we believed an 0-4 start would be a real probability. Smith should at least had quality snaps in the SMU and Texas games, and been starting since the Rice game. Would we still be 0-4? Maybe, but Smith would have learned. That is something Mac has deprived this QB and our team from doing, and now we are staring at the real possibility of losing to a FCS program and most likely seeing our first and only 0-12 season in our history. Smith can't be expected to develop timing and a comfortably with the receivers and backs if he doesn't have real game situations to develop it.

I know Mac's not happy with the criticism most are throwing his way, but our embarrassing situation is the direct result of his failed plan, and stubbornness. We need new leadership.

"Change is a weakness" - Coach McCarney

[greenminer]

I think the game has passed Mac by. All of us have seen "Gamers" throughout our days playing the game, and we know they exist at the college level too.

Mac likes to argue that McNulty gets it done in practice and that is why he is our starter. The problem may be that getting it done in our practice is easier then getting it done against other FBS defenses.

Many of us cautioned against McNulty being our starter heading into this season because we believed an 0-4 start would be a real probability. Smith should at least had quality snaps in the SMU and Texas games, and been starting since the Rice game. Would we still be 0-4? Maybe, but Smith would have learned. That is something Mac has deprived this QB and our team from doing, and now we are staring at the real possibility of losing to a FCS program and most likely seeing our first and only 0-12 season in our history. Smith can't be expected to develop timing and a comfortably with the receivers and backs if he doesn't have real game situations to develop it.

I know Mac's not happy with the criticism most are throwing his way, but our embarrassing situation is the direct result of his failed plan, and stubbornness. We need new leadership.

"Change is a weakness" - Coach McCarney

This is such a misleading statement, because IMO it implies some kind of age/generational effect.  I don't think the game has passed Mac by, I think it is more accurate to say Mac turns a blind eye to the necessary changes.

[foutsrouts]

This is such a misleading statement, because IMO it implies some kind of age/generational effect.  I don't think the game has passed Mac by, I think it is more accurate to say Mac turns a blind eye to the necessary changes.

How cruel.