Texas State at San Marcos

UNT90 · October 5, 2015

Has a legit FBS QB, has out-recruited UNT, and would easily beat this UNT team by 3 TDs.

Remember when we could have hired the guy running that program?

Travis · October 5, 2015

But the peoples all said they didn't want Fran.

Mean Green 93-98 · October 5, 2015

When UNT was in the post-Dodge hiring process, RV hinted that Dr. Rawlins had vetoed candidates such as Franchione and Jim Leavitt because of the baggage with which they came.

DeepGreen · October 5, 2015

Let it be known by all that DeepGreen wanted either Franchione or Leavitt.

Edited October 5, 2015 by DeepGreen

UNT90 · October 5, 2015

When UNT was in the post-Dodge hiring process, RV hinted that Dr. Rawlins had vetoed candidates such as Franchione and Jim Leavitt because of the baggage with which they came.

another excuse by RV?

Say it ain't so!!

You do realize you can't believe a word the man says when it comes to this program, right?

Mean Green 93-98 · October 5, 2015

another excuse by RV?
Say it ain't so!!
You do realize you can't believe a word the man says when it comes to this program, right?

I don't know whether it's true. . . . As for "excuse," this was back before Coach Mac was even hired. But he has passed the blame for other hires on to UNT presidents. He said that Dr. Bataille pushed the Dodge hire (for economic reasons) and the Shanice Stephens hire (for gender reasons). Maybe all, some, or none of it is true. And maybe someone here at the board would have better insight to know whether all, some, or none of it is true.

untjim1995 · October 5, 2015

I wanted Franchione or Kragthorpe...but I was fine with McCarney, too--if only because he wasn't a high school coach or some unknown assistant. And now, we pray:

Why, dear Lord, do you continue to smite us, the UNT Sports Fan? We on gmg.com are but a small and loving bunch, having never turned our back on our beloved Mean Green, even in times of desperation and wandering (IOW, forever...) Oh, sweet and merciful, Lord Jesus, please give us the wherewithal to understand why we are being so punished while schools like SMU and Portland State are given so much more. We pray for forgiveness and for patience, as we are forced to sit thru McCarney-Ball for a few more years, while King RV and the UNT 17 rules over the land with a basket full of treasures to keep the ruler as AD. Oh woe is thee--we beg of forgiveness and mercy, oh sweet and mighty Lord!! May we ask that you help aid us in defeat of the Mighty Portland State Vikings as they invade Denton with all 75 people that they will bring here, including their team and coaching staff. For, at this time of great sorrow, with this as our only OOC game at our temple of worship known as Apogee, faced with the overwhelming reality that Portland State stands as Goliath to our program right now, that you somehow give our young leader, Andrew McNulty, the ability to throw one stone (out 15) that might actually hit his target and will knock down the giant Vikings of the Pacific Northwest. If for just once, Mighty Lord, if you could give us the opportunity to defeat this enemy, on our home field, in front of 8000 of our fans, we would be forever grateful to your blessing. In your Most Holy Name, we pray...Amen

UNT90 · October 5, 2015

I don't know whether it's true. . . . As for "excuse," this was back before Coach Mac was even hired. But he has passed the blame for other hires on to UNT presidents. He said that Dr. Bataille pushed the Dodge hire (for economic reasons) and the Shanice Stephens hire (for gender reasons). Maybe all, some, or none of it is true. And maybe someone here at the board would have better insight to know whether all, some, or none of it is true.

isn't it funny that all of these excuses remove blame from RV? See how that works?

"Hey, nothing is ever my fault"

pathological.

The only info anyone would have would be from the mouth of RV, hence rendering said info completely unreliable. Unless you think someone was in the room when those conversations took place.

Edited October 5, 2015 by UNT90

DeepGreen · October 5, 2015

untjim1995, if I could "like" your post 10 time I would! Great stuff!!

KingDL1 · October 5, 2015

I don't know whether it's true. . . . As for "excuse," this was back before Coach Mac was even hired. But he has passed the blame for other hires on to UNT presidents. He said that Dr. Bataille pushed the Dodge hire (for economic reasons) and the Shanice Stephens hire (for gender reasons). Maybe all, some, or none of it is true. And maybe someone here at the board would have better insight to know whether all, some, or none of it is true.

I don't think Bataille was here when Dodge was hired? I heard she gave him a one year reprieve though.

Mean Green 93-98 · October 5, 2015

I don't think Bataille was here when Dodge was hired?

She definitely was. She came before the last year of Dickeyball.

KingDL1 · October 5, 2015

She definitely was. She came before the last year of Dickeyball.

Good to know.

Cr1028 · October 5, 2015

She definitely was. She came before the last year of Dickeyball.

I remember meeting her and RV at the tailgate setup for the '06 UT game.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Cr1028

Eagle1855 · October 5, 2015

They also got blasted by UH two weeks ago.

UNT90 · October 5, 2015

Water under the bridge. Besides, Texas State is only 1-3 this year...only win is against Prairie View A&M. Their defense has given up 59, 56, and 59 in their three games against programs not named Prairie View A&M.
So, tap the brakes on the "Dennis Franchione Is Jesus" angle. This is his fifth year at little San Marcos and his boat is taking on water as well...and in a lower level conference, okay? This stud QB you are championing wracked up 16 against Florida State and 14 against Houston. I doubt many schools are regretting the day they overlooked that guy.
Look, we all agree that McCarney should be shown the door - or, show some respect and take it himself. But, to play up Franchione is attempting to get a pretty crippled cart out in front of a horse that long ago left the barn..
Also, unless its pre-1977, no coaches who punch players in the locker room at halftime, please, like Leavitt. Talk about a freaking coward of a coach. His team is losing at half, so he punches one kid who made a mistake. Real level-headed guy, that Leavitt.
Let's get a coordinator from a successful school at or above our level this time around. Franchione isn't working anymore magic than Mac.

Definitely not Jesus.

Just would have been a better hire than Mac.

Pointing out what a low bar that is.

And that QB racked up 50 points vs Southern Miss, a team that is equal competition.

Tell me, would you rather have that QB or our QBs?

Edited October 5, 2015 by UNT90

foutsrouts · October 5, 2015

I remember meeting her RV at the tailgate setup for the '06 UT game.

Confused me for a second. I thought you were saying that she is married to RV, and since this has become a religious thread, I was about to say a little prayer for her.

Cr1028 · October 6, 2015

Confused me for a second. I thought you were saying that she is married to RV, and since this has become a religious thread, I was about to say a little prayer for her.

haha, whoops. I should proofread before I click submit.

GM1998 · October 6, 2015

When UNT was in the post-Dodge hiring process, RV hinted that Dr. Rawlins had vetoed candidates such as Franchione and Jim Leavitt because of the baggage with which they came.

I would hold off on calling Southwest (I refuse to call them Texas State) a success. Too soon to call.

FirefightnRick · October 6, 2015

When UNT was in the post-Dodge hiring process, RV hinted that Dr. Rawlins had vetoed candidates such as Franchione and Jim Leavitt because of the baggage with which they came.

Boulder of salt.

Rick

Water under the bridge. Besides, Texas State is only 1-3 this year...only win is against Prairie View A&M. Their defense has given up 59, 56, and 59 in their three games against programs not named Prairie View A&M.
So, tap the brakes on the "Dennis Franchione Is Jesus" angle. This is his fifth year at little San Marcos and his boat is taking on water as well...and in a lower level conference, okay? This stud QB you are championing wracked up 16 against Florida State and 14 against Houston. I doubt many schools are regretting the day they overlooked that guy.
Look, we all agree that McCarney should be shown the door - or, show some respect and take it himself. But, to play up Franchione is attempting to get a pretty crippled cart out in front of a horse that long ago left the barn..
Also, unless its pre-1977, no coaches who punch players in the locker room at halftime, please, like Leavitt. Talk about a freaking coward of a coach. His team is losing at half, so he punches one kid who made a mistake. Real level-headed guy, that Leavitt.
Let's get a coordinator from a successful school at or above our level this time around. Franchione isn't working anymore magic than Mac.

If your going to repeat a bullshit lie at least get it correct..he was accused of choking and slapping him...not punching him.

Of course we know now it was a lie...told by a liar who changed his story twice...backed up by two other disgruntled players, but countered by a majority of the rest of players in that side of the lockerroom at the time plus a police officer.

Rick

Edited October 6, 2015 by FirefightnRick

Got5onIt · October 6, 2015

I'd still take Fran if there could be a do over............

UNT90 · October 6, 2015

I'd still take Fran if there could be a do over............

Which was my point. Not saying Fran would have been a great hire, just a better hire than McCarney.

NTXCoog · October 6, 2015

They also got blasted by UH two weeks ago.

We're trying to do our part to keep them down. Their defensive coordinator resigned after our game with them.

UNT90 · October 6, 2015

We're trying to do our part to keep them down. Their defensive coordinator resigned after our game with them.

So, even Texas St. is more proactive than UNT.

Wonderful.

Eagle1855 · October 6, 2015

So, even Texas St. is more proactive than UNT.
Wonderful.

It would seem. But I'd argue we're still in a better position than they are. They run their operation out of a Mickey Mouse stadium. The rest of their athletic programs aren't nearly as competitive as ours (though I'd love to have baseball), and their location all but requires them to find talent well outside their backyard.

They have a better game-plan. But we've still got a 7-mile head-start in the marathon that is college athletics. Of course, it would behoove us to not dick about any further and get moving, lest they continue to close that ever-narrowing gap.