Ryan Rentfro drops knowledge on us....the "faithful"

[emmitt01]

Archaic offense that calls for running the ball predictably- Check

Statements that winning at North Texas is just so darn tough- Check

Bunker mentality amongst the coaches and players- Check

Chastising the fans when they don't turn out in drives for a bad product- Check

Shit, Mac's only four conference titles and three more bowl bids away from getting a practice field named after him.

[man-up UNT]

If you guys can't stand the heat then leave the program and go someplace else; lot's of other people (men) would love to be in your shoes. We want players with resiliency and character; winners not losers. Get mad and go take it out on your opponents. Consider this a real life lesson, next man-up, go show us something!  

[GOMG2013]

I agree with Rentfro about the sacrifice and hard work they put in.  He needs to get players together and demand changes instead of chastising fans.

 Mcnulty had his shot. Seniors that haven't produced by now need to take a seat.  

[MeanGreen13]

I agree with Rentfro about the sacrifice and hard work they put in.  He needs to get players together and demand changes instead of chastising fans.

 Mcnulty had his shot. Seniors that haven't produced by now need to take a seat.  

so... Rentfro himself then??? 

[greenit]

Sometimes I'm surprised when these sort of complaints occur.  The coaches and players have to endure far less scrutiny and criticism at North Texas than at say Texas, Oklahoma, or even TCU.  Heck, we really only have one true member of the media that spends any material portion of his time covering NT football, and that media member does not publish many hard hitting criticisms of the program.  As a whole, I think the NT fan base is rational, and given the results of the past decade, those that are still around are extremely loyal and dedicated and would love nothing more than for things to miraculously turn around starting this week @ USM.

I am drawing a blank here.  Tim McMahon?

[Side Show Joe]

It's very hard to take the blinders off when SMU, who rolled us like we were drunken hobs in week 1 just lost to FCS program James Madison. And Rice who embarrassed us at home in week 2, got their pants taken down against Baylor yesterday. Iowa's backups were giving us hell yesterday. After 3 weeks of this, you can't expect the fan base to be cool with what we are seeing.

Coach Mac needs to take the social media away from his players. They aren't helping to defused this situation.

[greengang]

Good grief this is just soft. I'm sick of these kids taking a loss and going straight to twitter to whine and cry. If we scored half as many points as we sent out tweets we would be 3-0. For years we have sat here and cried about how we can't pack apogee, when in reality we need to be thankful this many show up when we've had no success. Calling out fans when this program hasn't done anything note worthy in 10+ years? Get out of here with that. These kids don't realize that us fans have nothing to hold our hats on, we all stick around because we see the potential of this program and what it could possibly become. Actions speak louder than words and I don't want to see another player hate on a fan base that has nothing to be proud of at this point. I can stand losses, but I can't stand embarrassment, and I sure as hell can't stand not seeing improvement. Not sure which is softer, our mental toughness or our physical toughness.

[oldguystudent]

Clean house.  Top to bottom.  Front to back.  If necessary, go the UAB route and shut the whole damn thing down for a year or two.  It's time to excise the tumor and any malignant cells around it that may be hanging around.

[Ben Gooding]

Clean house.  Top to bottom.  Front to back.  If necessary, go the UAB route and shut the whole damn thing down for a year or two.  It's time to excise the tumor and any malignant cells around it that may be hanging around.

I agree with everything above. If we have to shut it down for a year or two then so be it. It will be worth it in the long run to get these jackssses away from UNT. RV AND mac have to go and if shutting it down to get this accomplished is the only way then do it. 

[Cerebus]

 If necessary, go the UAB route and shut the whole damn thing down for a year or two. 

So you somehow went from "why freak out about football, I love tailgating" to "come on pookie, lets burn this mother down!" in one season.  I strongly counsel you to drink less, or maybe more, listen to your gut and then do the exact opposite.

 

[Censored by Laurie]

If you guys can't stand the heat then leave the program and go someplace else; lot's of other people (men) would love to be in your shoes. We want players with resiliency and character; winners not losers. Get mad and go take it out on your opponents. Consider this a real life lesson, next man-up, go show us something!  

just going out on a limb here, but I'm betting I'll be quoting a lot of your posts in the coming weeks and months.

welcome to the board, tough guy!

[oldguystudent]

So you somehow went from "why freak out about football, I love tailgating" to "come on pookie, lets burn this mother down!" in one season.  I strongly counsel you to drink less, or maybe more, listen to your gut and then do the exact opposite.

 

I take poorly to student athletes biting my hand that feeds them.

[KingDL1]

I take poorly to student athletes biting my hand that feeds them.

They would be better served to stay off social media with any real commentary, short of just lets beat the next team. 

[oldguystudent]

They would be better served to stay off social media with any real commentary, short of just lets beat the next team. 

You'd think there would be somebody who could teach them that.  You know, like, um...what's the word I'm looking for here?  A coach?

[Mike Jackson]

1) We've had "good times" around here lately?

2) He's a junior. If biting your tongue for 2-3 years is a "long time", and you finally can't help yourself from spouting off in a critical and accusatory manner... Imagine how the guys who have been fans for 30-40+ years feel. 

3) As pointed out above... Fans don't have a "job". They have a voluntary willingness to cheer, or follow, or not. 

4) Division 1 sports is an exploitative shitshow, and the athletes generally get the shortest, poopiest end of the stick, but it's no secret how it works. When you have one non-con road win in 15 seasons, when you have one winning season in 11 years, when so many of the things that drive the fans here nuts happen and keep happening... People are going to tune out or flip out. It's unfortunate that so many do it in an ugly way towards players... But, it happens. And if that's difficult to deal with... Well, it's a much dimmer spotlight in Division 3. 

5) Whatever criticism any player or coach has gone in for here at North Texas PALES in comparison to bigger programs, where players get death threats, guys get harassed by fellow students and run off of campus, and so on and so forth. Here, a dozen people bitch about McNulty. And it's on one forum, not half a dozen. Easy to ignore. Nobody is calling into the only podunk radio station in town or flooding the letters-to-the-editor section of the Rinkydinkeryville Times sports section... In the grand scheme of things, relatively nobody is paying attention. 

6) Any player upset about a dozen jackasses with a malfunctioning moral barometer should stop and consider that most of them are misdirecting anger that ought to be focused on the dozen or so people in charge of coaching and recruiting the team, or the people that hire those coaches, or the people that hire the people that hire those coaches. It's crappy to have to be an emotionally more stable and mature person at ages 18-23 than guys in their 30's, 40's, 50's, and older... But, if you can gut up and do it, then take solace in the fact that you're a superior human being, and that fortitude will serve you well in the rest of your life. 

7) If this makes players and coaches bunker down and win for themselves to spite the fans... Fine. At this point, I don't care if they do it for the fans, in spite of the fans... Whatever. Sacrifice a damn fatted calf on the 50 yard line before each game if leads to wins. Love us, hate us, ignore us, whatever. Win and fewer people bitch (it never stops completely). Keep losing, and it's best to just plug your ears. 

8) I hope that any future graduate of the University of North Texas that is on this team and angry at the fan reaction can keep that mentality 5, 10, 20+ years from now. Because there's no shortage of former players on this website, and some of them can be the most extreme in their performance criticisms and overall assessments of our team(s). 

Thank you for your post.  We are a tired frustrated fanbase and it isn't just losing that get us mad it is getting our doors blown off.  It is not have a FBS program worthy of all the advantages that UNT has.  Texas A&M has 3,000 more students than UNT, University of Houston has 3,000 more, and the huge UT Longhorn has 12,000 more.  So UT is the ONLY university in the state of Texas significantly bigger than UNT.  Let me repeat that the University of Texas Longhorn is the ONLY university significantly bigger than UNT.  So we can lose yes, every program does but being humiliated regularly like we are Texas State somewhere out in the rural sticks of Texas is 100% unacceptable.  A UNT alum should be able to go anywhere in Oklahoma, Texas, LA, and New Mexico and people know where the school is located and that it is a first rate university. The football program just like academics is part of that.  We should never look like a private  FCS school with less than 10,000 students on campus and routinely that is what this team has looked like over the past 10 years. 

[JRock]

Fully agree with UNT90.

[KingDL1]

You'd think there would be somebody who could teach them that.  You know, like, um...what's the word I'm looking for here?  A coach?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVca9MwDX8&ab_channel=mcmillke

 

[UNTexas]

As someone who's been on both sides of what this kid is talking about I can tell you he's lucky to have any fans left and doesn't know the history of our program. Losers talk sh$t, as he's doing, and winners do something about it. 

If he wants to feel good then win. Or he can send angry tweets or dance, yell, and act the fool on the sideline like the other benchwarmers while they get blown out.

He needs to grow up and realize in big boy world you don't get participation trophies. Our fans are pretty damn loyal to still be interested year after year while the team loses.

Edited September 27, 2015 by UNTexas

[greenit]

I can only assume they have no mirrors in some areas of the locker room.  Maybe that is where some of the money for upgrades is going.  Maybe put a few in the coach's offices as well.

Edited September 27, 2015 by greenit

[Cerebus]

Just in case anyone hasn't guess it yet:

Mike Jackson != The Fake Lonnie Fitch

 

Edited September 28, 2015 by Cerebus
HarringtonFishSmeller = The Fake Lonnie Fitch

[NorthTexan95]

One winning season in a decade. I don't think we're jumping the gun, here. 

[oldguystudent]

Does Twitter not feature direct comments/replies?  Kinda curious what the twitter twatter world has to say about this, but I'm functionally illiterate with the twats.

[TIgreen01]

It's amazing we have any fans left.  Judging by the press box side attendance for Rice, there are fewer of us sticking around than maybe the 90s?

There is no question that this is a young team.  We're playing too many underclassmen, and at our level that usually leads to lopsided defeats.  It's a shame that almost half our depth chart is underclasmen at this point in Mac's tenure.  So, for all the being of sick of waiting for something to happen, we're looking at another two years before this current squad likely is ready to turn it around.

[MeanGreenTexan]

And while some of you may think this feedback is negative and that this thread should be locked.... I feel that it shows how the players feel that we the fans have reacted to what is occurring within the program.

To the players I would reiterate that which has been stated before this post in that we are not doubting or cheering against you as individual players or as a team but are, in fact, asking that this staff be accountable for it's coaching and decision making.  You can look at any other program that has just 1 winning season in 10 years and you will see the same type of actions by the "faithful".

Please don't take this as personal but something has to change and the fact that there people who want better than 1 winning season in 10 years shows that we are in fact the "faithful" you would choose to call out.

except that several people actually said they hope the team gets blown out in this manner, so that "changes" would be made....  well, I don't see any changes.

We support you with our money. We pay for your scholarships. We want the best for you.

When people make decisions that don't give YOU, THE PLAYERS the best chance to win, we will talk about it. BECAUSE WE WANT TO GIVE YOU EVERY ADVANTAGE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 

On the field performance is fair game.  You have known this since high school. You are right, people shouldn't personally attack players. That is immature. But performance is fair game. Get used to it. It gets tougher when you graduate and enter the job market. 

And lastly, resist the temptation to post things like this on social media. Want to shut us up? Quickest way is to prove us wrong. 

And you know what? We would love that. 

 

[Mike Jackson]

Just in case anyone hasn't guess it yet:

Mike Jackson = The Fake Lonnie Fitch

 

Should I feel insulted?   I don't know who Lonnie Fitch is.  I googled him too,,,, no luck