Ticket reporting that UT AD will be fired

[Harry]

I wonder who they will replace Patterson with?

[Mean_Green09]

I wonder who they will replace Patterson with?

Mack Brown lol,but Patterson was a d-bag and pissed off the donors. 

[flyonthewall]

Can't in a "public forum" but you know that.  Praise in public, criticize in private

[MeanGreenTexan]

I am tired of hearing how broke we are.  It is simply not true.  If we need to buy people out, we can do it.

I don't believe you.   I think I know who you are...  And I still don't believe what you're saying here.

[Army of Dad]

I wonder who they will replace Patterson with?

Rick Villareal

[Green Mean]

yes, exactly the same crap.  15 years ago we moved from the big west to the sunbelt.  Our weight room was tiny.  Our womens soccer team was playing on an intramural field.  The locker rooms were worthy of hosting a 2a texas high school football team.

We now have a stadium that is arguably the best in our conference.

The women have dedicated facilities

We have a basketball practice facility

We are about to open a state of the art golf facility at the honors club

I could go on and on about the positives, but that would only cause you to repeat your constant rant about the negatives

So let me help you

The schedule in football this season sucks

As Bill Parcells says, you are what you are, and we are winless in football right now, and winless in a way that is hard to swallow.

But in no way is the situation at THE FREAKIN UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IN AUSTIN remotely the same as ours, so don't make the bad comparison

Not necessarily disagreeing with you but what RV has been able to do is somewhat commendable I guess but he hasn't exceeded expectations in my view.  What he has done facilities wise is just being able to catch up with the rest of the nation.  To me he exceeds expectations if he does all those facilities, makes good hires and has a great record in each of the sports (at least the ones that are important and people care about).  

Many talk about the great things RV has done but since I've follow the program I've never heard anything about other programs wanting to lure RV away from Denton to be the AD of their school.

Yes we're not UT but I think the point people are trying to make is it's all about standards and expectations.  Given where we are in the totem pole our expectations and standards are virtually non-existent.  Hoping Smatresk is different and the real deal but until I see it first hand I'll always be skeptical and not trust the schools' higher ups.  And crap I know many don't want to compare ourselves with the big boys but why the F not?  You only increase your profile and value of your university if you try to model and compare yourself to things better than you.  That's how we'll get better IMO.

[Aldo]

Hallelujah! Patterson is gone!

[Cerebus]

Can't in a "public forum" but you know that.  Praise in public, criticize in private

I know you can't say anything, but i'v had this discussion before with Kram.

Praise in public, criticize in private works really great if you are that persons boss or if, like you, you have a lot of influence over that person keeping their job.

We, the poor and wretched masses SMU so detests, don't have that power.  The only power we have comes numbers.  Some may be able just casually mention that their seven figure check isn't going to clear next year if certain changes aren't made to accommodate them, all we can do is bury people in letters and emails and calls.

 

[TheTastyGreek]

all we can do is bury people in letters and emails and calls.

 

Um... Did you forget about the Crowdfunded Sandwich Initiative? 

[Cerebus]

 

Um... Did you forget about the Crowdfunded Sandwich Initiative? 

Until you fully back my Jodie Sweetin for AD movement I am not a part of the sandwich revolution.  

[Army of Dad]

Until you fully back my Jodie Sweetin for AD movement I am not a part of the sandwich revolution.  

I think it's irresponsible to push for her to be AD.

No recovering addict should be subject to that. Are you trying to get her to relapse!?

[UNT90]

Just what do you think is happening behind the scenes right now?

hopefully something that should have happened in 2012. 

[SilverEagle]

This is laughable.  The strategic vision of buying the liberty campus, closing the golf course, building a tennis facility, building and athletic practice facility and locker rooms, that was all the SGA. 

I guess the big ffffing check that I wrote for the stadium didn't clear, or the check for the athletics center, or the check for basketball practice facility.  Stop insulting some of us with this b.s. 

Are you saying that you and other big ffffing check writers were just about to write even bigger checks for the whole stadium before the SGA came along and stole ya'lls glory?

Now THAT'S laughable.

[Army of Dad]

In before the lock?

 

 

question, no info.

[Harry]

I am tired of hearing how broke we are.  It is simply not true.  If we need to buy people out, we can do it.

agreed.  At one point in time this may have been true but not any longer.

[ColoradoEagle]

Serious question, then. If we can buy people out when we need to, then why is Benford still our HC in basketball? It was obvious to almost everyone in year one that he wasn't the guy. Year two absolutely confirmed it. Why do we give more loyalty and benefit of the doubt to coaching hires than we do the fanbase who has dropped off the map since the JJ years? Why go into the fourth year with a guy whose record here is 42-53 (.447), buoyed mostly by patsies (21-33 .389 in conference play)?

Either we're broke and can't get out of contracts, or we're not broke but are masochistic. 

Edited September 15, 2015 by ColoradoEagle

[oldguystudent]

 

Either we're broke and can't get out of contracts, or we're not broke but are masochistic. 

Pure speculation with absolutely no sources to back it up here:

I bet the past couple years sitting under the specter of having to pay all that dubious accounting money back to the state had just about everything frozen.

That is, of course, until they figured out that Burnt Orange doesn't make one immune from decades long accounting errors.

Now that we're out of that place, I bet there are considerably more funds available.

I repeat.

Pure speculation with absolutely no sources to back it up here

[James]

There's one thing I'll never forgot during my freshman year at North Texas (2012):

It was during the homecoming pep rally on campus and RV was addressing the audience. His almost exact quote was "The Texas Tech's of the world have had their times, it's North Texas' turn to rise up."

At the time it got me excite, but later looking back on it, was this the pinnacle he aimed for in his career? Does RV only want to be as good as Tech? I do not want someone running the athletic department at MY university who's ultimate goal is to imitate a small watering hole in godforsaken Lubbock, TX. (No offense to anyone on the board who lives out there.)

I hope for, I demand someone with the enthusiasm to take North Texas to an elite level, anything less than that is unacceptable.

Edited September 15, 2015 by James

[ColoradoEagle]

There's one thing I'll never forgot during my freshman year at North Texas (2012):

It was during the homecoming pep rally on campus and RV was addressing the audience. His almost exact quote was "The Texas Tech's of the world have had their times, it's North Texas' turn to rise up."

At the time it got me excite, but later looking back on it, was this the pinnacle he aimed for in his career? Does RV only want to be as good as Tech? I do not want someone running the athletic department at MY university who's ultimate goal is to imitate a small watering hole in godforsaken Lubbock, TX. (No offense to anyone on the board who lives out there.)

I would die a happy man if we got to Texas Tech's level.

[James]

I would die a happy man if we got to Texas Tech's level.

I would too, but should that be the level of excellence he should be shooting for?

[ColoradoEagle]

I would too, but should that be the level of excellence he should be shooting for?

Considering right now we seem to be shooting for being better than UT-Arlington (and failing in some cases), that's a pretty lofty goal.

[oldguystudent]

I would too, but should that be the level of excellence he should be shooting for?

I'm in the minority here in that I never want UNT to be an Alabama.  I don't believe you can reach such lofty heights without engaging in some...mischief.  I like my relatively nice, squeaky clean program.

[TIgreen01]

I would too, but should that be the level of excellence he should be shooting for?

Uh, yeah.  Before the Big 12 fell apart with defections, it was the best football conference in America.  Tech was in the hunt for the championship several years in a row before the entire Leach/James fiasco.  They've had national success, at times in several other sports, as well.  

Heck, 10 years ago we wouldn't want to compare ourselves to Baylor.  Look where they are now.

Either way, we're not catching up at this point.  Not with P5 school's pocketing $25-30mil/year from tv contracts alone...but I guess it's good to have goals.

As far as firing coaches immediately, I'd rather be the school that gives a coach/staff a fair shake than the school that swaps out coaches every single year and is under constant change.  Things happen that aren't always totally under the control of the head coach no matter how much we like to play the blame game in our society now.  One of the best things about supporting North Texas is that, to my knowledge, we haven't been a school who has thrown moral, ethics and sportsmanship into the trash just so we can chase victories.  I'd like to win every game we play in every sport, but if it means we have to sacrifice who we are, then I'm not interested.  I don't know the whole story or the circumstances that led to our basketball team's collapse in Benford's first year.  I might have knee-jerked and fired him mid-season based on what I know (nothing other than what I saw on the court).  For me, it's at least comforting to know that we've had the money to buy him out if our leadership wanted to.  It means that they are looking at the whole picture and not just making knee-jerk decisions.  So---to flyonthewall---thanks for posting.

[GRN-WHT]

then why is Benford still our HC in basketball?

Because it would expose RV as the idiot he is.

[UNT90]

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