Quarterback

Cr1028 · September 14, 2015

I caught a lot of flak before this game because I questioned how vastly improved #5 was since he looked so good throwing to stationary targets against air. Most coaches who feel they are on the hot seat will adjust their playcalling to get their best players in the game. I've been called a tin-foil hat wearing, black helicopter riding, nutjob. I simply call it as I see it.

I have no vendetta against #5 but I have never seen our head coach so consumed by getting one player to succeed. He is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. You may be able to get the square peg to stick in the round hole, but it will never fill the round hole.

In the beginning, we were told that we were lucky to get #5 here because of our head coach's connection to the family. I'd argue that #5 is lucky to be here because of his family's connections to our head coach. #5 had no other offers, period. There is just no market for undersized quarterbacks with weak arm strength, poor accuracy, and average to below average speed. Not one person on this board can say with reasonable certainty that #5 would've even been allowed to walk-on at another FBS school as a quarterback.

Some say I'm crazy for suggesting nepotism. I say those ignoring it as a possibility are the ones that are crazy. There is a reason that a true freshman nobody else wanted becomes the answer to the trivia question "Who scored the first touchdown in Apogee stadium?". They have invested so much in trying to make #5 a FBS quarterback but they have failed to recognize that you cannot teach speed, arm strength, or height. #5 will be our quarterback through at least the Iowa game (can't bench the kid before playing in his hometown as a starting FBS qb), but likely will be our starter for the entirety of the season.

The good news in all of this is that #5 is a redshirt senior and will exhaust his eligibility after this season. The worst thing that could happen right now is he gets injured and is granted a medical redshirt as his 2012 redshirt was attributed to injury. Barring injury, #5 will be gone next year and D. Smith will have had a full year to rewrite the playbook that #5 apparently holds the copyrights to. 2016 will be our year of revival.

There is hope beyond the dark cloud that reigns over the 2015 season, I just hope that the head coach's loyalty to one player, doesn't ruin the career and reputation of our offensive coordinator. I truly believe Canales can guide D. Smith to a Matt Grothe like season if McCarney allows him to. Time will tell, but until then, there is always next year.

Ben Gooding · September 14, 2015

I caught a lot of flak before this game because I questioned how vastly improved #5 was since he looked so good throwing to stationary targets against air. Most coaches who feel they are on the hot seat will adjust their playcalling to get their best players in the game. I've been called a tin-foil hat wearing, black helicopter riding, nutjob. I simply call it as I see it.

I have no vendetta against #5 but I have never seen our head coach so consumed by getting one player to succeed. He is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. You may be able to get the square peg to stick in the round hole, but it will never fill the round hole.

In the beginning, we were told that we were lucky to get #5 here because of our head coach's connection to the family. I'd argue that #5 is lucky to be here because of his family's connections to our head coach. #5 had no other offers, period. There is just no market for undersized quarterbacks with weak arm strength, poor accuracy, and average to below average speed. Not one person on this board can say with reasonable certainty that #5 would've even been allowed to walk-on at another FBS school as a quarterback.

Some say I'm crazy for suggesting nepotism. I say those ignoring it as a possibility are the ones that are crazy. There is a reason that a true freshman nobody else wanted becomes the answer to the trivia question "Who scored the first touchdown in Apogee stadium?". They have invested so much in trying to make #5 a FBS quarterback but they have failed to recognize that you cannot teach speed, arm strength, or height. #5 will be our quarterback through at least the Iowa game (can't bench the kid before playing in his hometown as a starting FBS qb), but likely will be our starter for the entirety of the season.

The good news in all of this is that #5 is a redshirt senior and will exhaust his eligibility after this season. The worst thing that could happen right now is he gets injured and is granted a medical redshirt as his 2012 redshirt was attributed to injury. Barring injury, #5 will be gone next year and D. Smith will have had a full year to rewrite the playbook that #5 apparently holds the copyrights to. 2016 will be our year of revival.

There is hope beyond the dark cloud that reigns over the 2015 season, I just hope that the head coach's loyalty to one player, doesn't ruin the career and reputation of our offensive coordinator. I truly believe Canales can guide D. Smith to a Matt Grothe like season if McCarney allows him to. Time will tell, but until then, there is always next year.

The bolded is another reason why Dan McCarney needs to be fired immediately. Why not throw in your probable starter next season when the current guy is 1) not any good and 2) gone after this year. I just can't comprehend it. We aren't giving us the BEST chance THIS or NEXT year sticking with McNulty.

Withers940 · September 14, 2015

I dont usually listen to Coach Mac's Monday night show but i am going to tonight and I hope to God that someone rails McCarney on this QB Cluster F.

I also want someone to ask him who exactly calls the plays because how could someone like Canales send in calls only to get turned down over and over. Someone with any pride would of spoken up by now or left.

Ben Gooding · September 14, 2015

I would love to do it, but I'm not one to have a faint heart (or mouth) when fed bs. My response and his probable anger would be an embarrassment to UNT.

GreenTexan13 · September 14, 2015

The bolded is another reason why Dan McCarney needs to be fired immediately. Why not throw in your probable starter next season when the current guy is 1) not any good and 2) gone after this year. I just can't comprehend it. We aren't giving us the BEST chance THIS or NEXT year sticking with McNulty.

Exactly, I turn off my ears when DMac talks about McNulty now. If I was him, I guess..... I would keep McNulty in the first half of the Rice game. If that guy pulls another game like last weekend, bench him... Then put in D.Smith and see what he can do. McNulty is gone after this year, and I have been saying for awhile (before I was brainwashed into accepting McNulty) that our coaching staff needs to put a younger QB in the game. We have two years left with Smith. Now we are going to be stuck in a situation, where we have to build up another QB after this year.

MeanGreenTexan · September 14, 2015

I would love to do it, but I'm not one to have a faint heart (or mouth) when fed bs. My response and his probable anger would be an embarrassment to UNT.

Well @KRAM1, since Ben just backed out, it looks like the tough questions are going to have to come from you. Carry the mantle proudly. We're pulling for you.

James329 · September 14, 2015

When they fire Canales, hopefully they can find an OC with a proven track record at QB who will bring a starting QB with him.

Cr1028 · September 14, 2015

When they fire Canales, hopefully they can find an OC with a proven track record at QB who will bring a starting QB with him.

Hopefully one without any friends or family that have subpar quarterbacks as sons.

Edited September 14, 2015 by Cr1028

UNT90 · September 14, 2015

I would love to do it, but I'm not one to have a faint heart (or mouth) when fed bs. My response and his probable anger would be an embarrassment to UNT.

this post gives me hope for young Ben Gooding.

UNT 90 Grad · September 14, 2015

I would love to do it, but I'm not one to have a faint heart (or mouth) when fed bs. My response and his probable anger would be an embarrassment to UNT.

bs = barbecue sausage? Not much better than Rudy's. And only $7.99 for the buffet during the Coach's Show? Mmmmmm gooood!

MeanGreenTexan · September 14, 2015

When they fire Canales, hopefully they can find an OC with a proven track record at QB who will bring a starting QB with him.

New guy: "Hey coach! Thanks for hiring me! Listen, I got to watching some tape, and this #5 kid you have running the show... he's not very good. I'd like to sit him down in favor of this guy you currently have on your roster who was an Elite 11 guy in H.S., Smith. Is that cool?"
Coach Mac: "No".
New guy: "OK. I guess we'll just try and make do with what we have and build for next year. Hey, by the way, I've been in contact with this kid at Central High and I think he's going to be a great QB, especially in the kind of offense I'd like to run. Can we offer him?"
Coach Mack: "How tall is he?"
New guy: "Six foot".
Coach Mac: "No".
New guy: "OK. What can I do to make this team better at the QB position?"
Coach Mac: "Work with Andy Mac to make him better, or search JUCO QBs or H.S. QB's who are 6'3" or taller".
New guy: "I quit".

Got5onIt · September 14, 2015

When AM leaves, Mac will just find another QB to latch onto. He did it with DT as well. Luckily for him, DT actually raised his play enough to make a difference his senior year. We will continue to see this pattern as long as McCarney runs the show. My question is, what is the criteria to becoming Mac's guy? I sure as hell don't think the bar starts at talent or physical ability....

Edited September 14, 2015 by Got5onIt

KingDL1 · September 14, 2015

Did every body here miss last year? How many QBs did we go through, and who started the season? Yeah that starter for the season was who? Greer correct? And who's guy was he? Canales'

Didn't Dajon Start 2 games also? I don't want look I am getting my green depression again.

I am not trying to defend Mac, but it seems like a really weak ass silly thing to say McNulty is starting because of an off the field relationship. I do think McNulty should have be replaced I am just not sure we have anything better to do that with.

Further if this conspiracy of sorts is real why did they even give Greer and Dajon a shot during games last season?

IslandEagle · September 14, 2015

INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS

TIgreen01 · September 14, 2015

You guys are some serious conspiracy theorists, and I should know. I am one, too. However, I know it'd be easier to have someone to blame, but, usually, the simplest answer is the correct one. Andy Mac is our starting QB because he is the best one that we have on the roster.

Not easy to swallow, and offers no hope for 2015 to get better. But it is the reality we are facing. Now, should the coaching staff be held responsible for having recruited these QBs? That's another discussion from the one you're having about nepotism and all this other stupid crap.

Got5onIt · September 14, 2015

Did every body here miss last year? How many QBs did we go through, and who started the season? Yeah that starter for the season was who? Greer correct? And who's guy was he? Canales'
Didn't Dajon Start 2 games also? I don't want look I am getting my green depression again.
I am not trying to defend Mac, but it seems like a really weak ass silly thing to say McNulty is starting because of an off the field relationship. I do think McNulty should have be replaced I am just not sure we have anything better to do that with.
Further if this conspiracy of sorts is real why did they even give Greer and Dajon a shot during games last season?

They've done everything possible to find a QB other than McNulty. That tells me a whole helluva lot. So why would you settle on him this year? He may be the hardest worker and a great vocal leader, but everything this staff has done up to this point shows they didn't think he had a starter's ability.

Edited September 14, 2015 by Got5onIt

KingDL1 · September 14, 2015

They've done everything possible to find a QB other than McNulty. That tells me a whole helluva lot. So why would you settle on him this year? He may be the hardest worker and a great vocal leader, but everything this staff has done up to this point shows they didn't think he had a starter's ability.

Last year the answer was McNulty protected the ball best and the answer this year ain't Greer. I don't know who really is the answer but hell some of our wide recievers should be able to throw further than McNulty.

I tuned out this off season because I felt as long as Canales is running the offense it would suck.

meangreen15 · September 14, 2015

Last year the answer was McNulty protected the ball best and the answer this year ain't Greer. I don't know who really is the answer but hell some of our wide recievers should be able to throw further than McNulty.

I tuned out this off season because I felt as long as Canales is running the offense it would suck.

I still don't understand that logic being used for McNulty last year. He had 6 TDs-7 INTS, and a 54% completion rate.

What we saw Saturday was a vintage Andy Mac performance.

KingDL1 · September 14, 2015

I still don't understand that logic being used for McNulty last year. He had 6 TDs-7 INTS, and a 54% completion rate.
What we saw Saturday was a vintage Andy Mac performance.

Yup, I did not create the logic, but we did see the other two were not the answer either.

I will need more Tequila for tailgating!

Ben Gooding · September 14, 2015

You guys are some serious conspiracy theorists, and I should know. I am one, too. However, I know it'd be easier to have someone to blame, but, usually, the simplest answer is the correct one. Andy Mac is our starting QB because he is the best one that we have on the roster.
Not easy to swallow, and offers no hope for 2015 to get better. But it is the reality we are facing. Now, should the coaching staff be held responsible for having recruited these QBs? That's another discussion from the one you're having about nepotism and all this other stupid crap.

It may not be a theory that AM is only starting bc of off the field relationships. What is not a theory and is fact is that he is only here (or playing FBS football) because of this staff. So the theory lies within the problem itself.

Harry · September 14, 2015

I dont usually listen to Coach Mac's Monday night show but i am going to tonight and I hope to God that someone rails McCarney on this QB Cluster F.

I also want someone to ask him who exactly calls the plays because how could someone like Canales send in calls only to get turned down over and over. Someone with any pride would of spoken up by now or left.

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MEANGREENCOACH2 · September 14, 2015

Kevin Dillman

JK

Andrew · September 14, 2015

Kevin Dillman

JK

no kidding..... I am confident that we will get more talk about him being QB. Mac knows he can play and don't think he hasn't discussed it. No joke. He might get a shot this year. If Vito could go to a practice we might get more info or a visual of him getting some snaps.

Ben Gooding · September 14, 2015

Kevin Dillman

JK

you're just kidding, but why not? Like...really. 16/34 128 yds 0 td 2 int is not @ UT bad, but considering the competitoin level it may be just as bad. It at least ranks down there with his FIU performance last year of I believe 9/20 109 yds 1 int. These stats are not just negative outliers, these are his actual average stat lines. These stat lines are being forced fed down our throat by our own HC.