McNulty (since you locked it)

James329 · September 13, 2015

If he's the captain that this team needs and deserves, he should be busting his butt to help D. Smith get prepared. It's all about making the team the best it can be. And after seeing tonight, this team is better if he has a head set on. He's no Thompson.

Ben Gooding · September 13, 2015

Not really sure why the previous McNulty thread was locked.

There is no question who the best QB on the roster is. All you need to look at is the positioning of the opposing teams safeties. There is no respect of who is under center and I can't say I blame them. I would run blitz us to death. Then do it some more. Then more. We'll get better, but we won't be good. Not even close to good. Silver lining?

James329 · September 13, 2015

Our remedial offense can't be that complicated. It's slow, and obvious as hell. I'm confused why they even need those picture boards. Do the qbs even wear a wristband of calls?

Ans let's be truthful. Practice is practice. Happy feet and panic about getting hit aren't visible in practice. It's about making plays. McNulty can't do that. An every down pass competed was a big deal for him tonight.

chrisfisher · September 13, 2015

The ESPN3 announcers, who I think were SMU, were actually fairly decent. They mentioned repeatedly the poor performance of our QB. They stated many times that he was very inaccurate and had very poor to no timing with the receivers. Even when we were ahead in the 3Q, I knew we had no chance. Our defense, which looked pretty good, and special teams kept us in the game. Our offense was inept mostly due to poor QB performance. You can't get a running game going if there is no passing threat to keep the defense honest. Everyone in the stadium, and especially the SMU defense, knew that we could not beat them in the air. I'll take Smith even with expected mishaps (apparently as our coaches assess this situation) just to watch D1 football (speed and accuracy) at the QB position.

H-towngreen · September 13, 2015

Not sure why the other threads are being locked as well, haven't seen anything over the top.

Mac will ride Andy to his firing. Hopefully that comes sooner rather than later. And just remember, Andy was the 3rd string qb last year at this time.

UNT90 · September 13, 2015

I'll take Smith even with expected mishaps (apparently as our coaches assess this situation) just to watch D1 football (speed and accuracy) at the QB position.

the thing is, none of us have any idea if he is a D1 QB. The fact that he sits #3 on the depth chart tells me that he isn't the answer, much like DW wasn't the answer last year.

foutsrouts · September 13, 2015

the thing is, none of us have any idea if he is a D1 QB. The fact that he sits #3 on the depth chart tells me that he isn't the answer, much like DW wasn't the answer last year.

True, but there is certainly some evidence that Smith could get the job done. Do we really think that McNulty could put up anything close to Smith's numbers at Butler CC? Smith is worth a shot sooner rather than later IMO before this thing completely goes to hell. Almost sounds like I'm talking about Dajon of last year, but they're two very different individuals. Mac needs to wake up.

GrandGreen · September 13, 2015

I don't know why anyone is surprised at McNulty performance, it was basically the same as last year. The problem is that everyone assumes that there are better QB options on the team and McCarney, I guess, just doesn't want better QB play. The same scenario took place last year, and it was illustrated that, no in fact, there were no good options at the position.

Yes, I hope he gets Smith, Greer or even Means on the field to see what they can do because it can't be a lot worse than what I saw at SMU. I just doubt there is a hidden legitimate FB division QB waiting in the wings. That being said why trot out a senior with limited skills, in lieu of someone that will be here next year?

Edited September 13, 2015 by GrandGreen

UNTexas · September 13, 2015

This isn't a Division 1 offense. The D is good and so is Special Teams. It's time to fire people. I'm ashamed of how pathetic the offense is. This is the worst QB situation in college football and the head coach is a poor leader if he doesn't give D Smith a chance.

Hunter Green · September 13, 2015

the thing is, none of us have any idea if he is a D1 QB. The fact that he sits #3 on the depth chart tells me that he isn't the answer, much like DW wasn't the answer last year.

Well, we'll never know, will we? Until Mac puts him in, he will be a mystery. Let him learn, and improvise just as Davis has done.

meangreendork · September 13, 2015

Well, we'll never know, will we? Until Mac puts him in, he will be a mystery. Let him learn, and improvise just as Davis has done.

It's really a matter of coaching decisions. I'm sure McNulty means the best, but he's not cut out for leading an FBS team. Smith on the other hand, shows great potential. So it's really up to the coaches to decide if they want less-than average but consistent results, or potentially great results, but potential inconsistency. I'd take Smith. We know what McNulty can do, and he's done it under center for 3 years. Smith? Even if he does fail, at least we know all options have been tried, short of putting Means on the field. And hell, I'll take that too. The other offensive weapons and a solid line are all there.

Cerebus · September 13, 2015

Look, posts like:

Horrible play by a "d1" QB. I'd rather watch a monkey humping a doorknob than the crap we had running the offense tonight.

Are WAY out of line. And I think my post explains why it was locked:

I'm going to close this because I don't think dumping all this vitriol on one of our fellow alums is proper.
How about the employee we pay 800k a year to run this football program, or his boss, which we pay 300k a year to make hires like Mac, Benford, dodge, and about 20 different women's bb coaches that crashed and burned.

More importantly Harry, the guy who pays for this board and was faxing out Mean Green info before a lot of posters were born, agrees with me. Harry wants to run a board that isn't a free for all pile on where people compete to write "funny" metaphors that dog our fellow alumni. As I posted out, it's also misplaced anger.

Don't like the program that has been built? Call or write the AD. Don't like the AD? Smatresk is his boss.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Cerebus

Aldo · September 13, 2015

Look, posts like:

Are WAY out of line. And I think my post explains why it was locked:

More importantly Harry, the guy who pays for this board and was faxing out Mean Green info before a lot of posters were born, agrees with me. Harry wants to run a board that isn't a free for all pile on where people compete to write "funny" metaphors that dog our fellow alumni. As I posted out, it's also misplaced anger.
Don't like the program that has been built? Call or write the AD. Don't like the AD? Smatresk is his boss.

if y'all want garbage forums, join UTSA's fan forum.

UNTexas · September 13, 2015

Look, posts like:

Are WAY out of line. And I think my post explains why it was locked:

More importantly Harry, the guy who pays for this board and was faxing out Mean Green info before a lot of posters were born, agrees with me. Harry wants to run a board that isn't a free for all pile on where people compete to write "funny" metaphors that dog our fellow alumni. As I posted out, it's also misplaced anger.
Don't like the program that has been built? Call or write the AD. Don't like the AD? Smatresk is his boss.

I think people are just venting. Everyone is sick of the product this team puts out. UNT's athletic staff begged for years to get fan support and facilities. They have gotten everything they asked for and they keep losing. It's pathetic and people need to lose their jobs. Starting with the AD on down. Mac seemed like a good choice before but the game appears to have passed him by. He sticks to his guns even when he's wrong. I don't know if it's hubris or playing favorites but one thing is certain, he seriously lacks judgment in recruiting a specific key position.

Ben Gooding · September 13, 2015

Look, posts like:

Are WAY out of line. And I think my post explains why it was locked:

More importantly Harry, the guy who pays for this board and was faxing out Mean Green info before a lot of posters were born, agrees with me. Harry wants to run a board that isn't a free for all pile on where people compete to write "funny" metaphors that dog our fellow alumni. As I posted out, it's also misplaced anger.
Don't like the program that has been built? Call or write the AD. Don't like the AD? Smatresk is his boss.

Oh, so gif'ing good people to death that have given up on GMG, that are also alum, is acceptable? BUT scrutinizing performance is unacceptable? Just trying to clear things up.

Andrew · September 13, 2015

Oh, so gif'ing good people to death that have given up on GMG, that are also alum, is acceptable? BUT scrutinizing performance is unacceptable? Just trying to clear things up.

Interesting.... I would also think that a football player (who is supposed to be tough) would be able to take critiscm better than an alumni in front of s computer screen. I wonder if it will be different once the athletes are paid....

Edited September 13, 2015 by Andrew

Cerebus · September 13, 2015

Oh, so gif'ing good people to death that have given up on GMG, that are also alum, is acceptable? BUT scrutinizing performance is unacceptable? Just trying to clear things up.

What are you talking about?

Ben Gooding · September 13, 2015

If I have to tell you what I am talking about then you need to pay closer attention, particularly as a moderator.

Andrew · September 13, 2015

What are you talking about?

I'm guessing he is wondering why people who post on here can be torn down for simple words, but a player who could single-handedly cost UNT the entire season can get off with no blame. I see people bash Benford all the time, but at least he puts the best players on the court.... Of course this season he is gone if we struggle in the slightest. Every athlete on the team is a grown man and should be able to handle a bit of critiscm just as the coaches who are also grown men should be able to handle it.

I am just trying to read in between the lines though :)

Cerebus · September 13, 2015

If I have to tell you what I am talking about then you need to pay closer attention, particularly as a moderator.

So nothing. Got it. Thanks.

GreenTexan13 · September 13, 2015

if y'all want garbage forums, join UTSA's fan forum.

I agree, it looks like a sailor's forum over there on Rowdytalk. It's nothing but Curse words. Which makes people look highly uneducated.

I guess I can see why Cerebus shut it down. But personally, I think that we are all so frustrated. It may not be the right way of expressing their opinions, but they are right in every way on acting upset.

Got5onIt · September 13, 2015

Oh, so gif'ing good people to death that have given up on GMG, that are also alum, is acceptable? BUT scrutinizing performance is unacceptable? Just trying to clear things up.

I don't think scrutinizing performance is the issue, it's the way it's being done. These kids could've played at other schools but decided to come to ours. They deserve respect just for doing that. They're not making half a million dollars a year like McCarney & Co. and are sacrificing their bodies on Saturdays. The anger should be directed towards Dan McCarney and Rick Villareal. It's not McNulty's fault he's in over his head as a starting FBS QB.

UNTexas · September 13, 2015

Part of playing is hearing the critics. Just like you take the praise. I take it most of y'all have never been in film room with college coaches. These kids take ass chewing daily. Nothing said here is going to break their hearts. When you play like crap, you know it.

If the players don't like the complaints, then they need to do something about it. Accountability, or lack thereof, is exactly why this program is in the dumpster year in and year out.

If they want respect. Win. If they don't want to be embarrassed. Win. If the AD and Head coach want donors. Win.

They need to knock off the twitter nonsense too. I'm really sorry these kids grew up in the generation where everyone gets a trophy but in the real world people don't praise failure. Im not attacking the character of anyone in the athletic department or players. They are good folks. However, this consistent losing and lack of accountability is enough. Every fan and alumni deserves better.

Edited September 13, 2015 by UNTexas

Ben Gooding · September 13, 2015

They deserve a glimpse of appreciation on signing day. That's it. That's what they deserve. As for McNulty, that glimpse was 5 years ago. Since then he has sat on the roster soaking up a scholarship of which he is still ultimately doing.

It's not his fault that this "coaching" staff is too dumb to know any better. I get it. But at the same time, we have to be kind of direct with our insults so our incoherent staff knows which player to change this week at practice. But, the play calling though. Ugh. Just bad. That said play calling could be and probably is a direct relation as to who our starting QB is. But, he knows the playbook? F that.

Cerebus · September 13, 2015

It's not his fault that this "coaching" staff is too dumb to know any better. I get it. But at the same time, we have to be kind of direct with our insults so our incoherent staff knows which player to change this week at practice.

If that is what your intent is I can tell you, having talked to several coaches on several different staffs here, they don't read this. If word of what we are saying gets to them, they ignore it. You are doing nothing constructive.

What you are doing is dog piling on a player and their family. That player is a fellow alum, show some class.

Yes, they are a FBS player, and criticism comes with it. There is a world of difference between "I don't think Player X has what it takes and the coaches need to make a change" and "Player X is dog crap and he smells like dog crap and his parents probably tasted like dog crap hurr durr."

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE: Send a polite letter or email to the boss of the person you want to be replaced. Explain why. Explain why it is important to make the change.