Tim McMahon ranks top 10 Texas programs

Harry · August 28, 2015

Rudy · August 28, 2015

Ugh. We should have been able to maintain our momentum after the HoD Bowl.

wardly · August 28, 2015

So its UNT and SMU at the bottom of the barrel, with pillow fight on the 12th.

Got5onIt · August 28, 2015

Yuck.

Side Show Joe · August 28, 2015

After spending $78 million on Apogee, moving to C-USA, and winning the HOD on New Years Day 2014, we shouldn't be in this position heading into the 2015 season. I know coach Mac doesn't appreciate that most sports writers, like Mr. MacMahon, place UNT very near the bottom in most polls, but that is the price we pay for coming off a 4-8 season at North Texas. I hope Mac hates it so much that he never fields another 4-8 team at North Texas again.

I get the feeling that coach Mac and his staff believe this season's team is very capable of reaching a bowl game. If we can get acceptable QB and secondary play this season, I believe we will have a bowl team. This team must make the statement that last season's 4-8 record was only a minor blip and the Mean Green will be a program that cannot be ignored moving forward. If UNT ends up being able to offer one of the more competitive COA amounts in Texas and C-USA, then it will only help matters.

Mean Green Eagle · August 28, 2015

Ouch. Can't even crack the top-10, eh?

Rudy · August 28, 2015

Ouch. Can't even crack the top-10, eh?

and there's only 12 of us.

TheWestie · August 28, 2015

He used to work at the DRC. He secretly likes UNT. He's trying to give em a reason to play with a chip on their shoulder.

(its' all a secret plan!)

Harry · August 28, 2015

Timmy Mac cares for UNT -- heck he's a grad and wrote for the Daily. But you can't sugarcoat 4-8. You can't sugarcoat 1 winning season in 10. He's being honest. We have some many friends in the media that could help promote our success through their stories. But you have to win and win consistently. #JUSTWIN

GrandGreen · August 28, 2015

NT should definitely be in the bottom 3 along with SMU and UTSA.

Good karma maybe as NT was picked to do nothing in 1913 and picked to win the West in 2014.

All About UNT · August 28, 2015

NT should definitely be in the bottom 3 along with SMU and UTSA.
Good karma maybe as NT was picked to do nothing in 1913 and picked to win the West in 2014.

Is that true Harry? Was North Texas picked to do nothing in 1913? What do you remember about them during that season?

Edited August 28, 2015 by All About UNT

VideoEagle · August 28, 2015

Multiple source ranked us 4th or 5th in CUSA West in 2013. The same preseason polls listed us as 1st or 2nd going into 2014, despite lots of lost players. The people who write preseason polls spend 80% or more of their time on P5 teams and just don't know enough about CUSA to make accurate assessments. Individual reporters know the tema nearest them, but not the others on the conference. With the incomplete information, their rankings will be wrong.

foutsrouts · August 28, 2015

Is that true Harry? Was North Texas picked to do nothing in 1913? What do you remember about them during that season?

We had a lot of draft dodgers that year and no one thought we could even field a team.

MeanGreenTexan · August 28, 2015

GreenTexan13 · August 28, 2015

NT should definitely be in the bottom 3 along with SMU and UTSA.
Good karma maybe as NT was picked to do nothing in 1913 and picked to win the West in 2014.

ahhh! 1913, that was a good year! North Texas starts fielding the first football team!

Haha jk, I honestly ignore these preseason predictions. Your example of our success prediction in 2014 is a good example. Plus I think UTSA was predicted to do alright, and they stunk.

Aldo · August 28, 2015

UTSA is going to be one of the worst teams in FBS this year. How many original kids did they graduate?

Harry · August 28, 2015

UTSA is going to be one of the worst teams in FBS this year. How many original kids did they graduate?

I believe 37 or thereabouts. As I have stated, as big a disappointment 2014 was for us, it was a bigger one for them since they had built their entire program around that season.

That said, I know Coker and the man can recruit. They brought in a Michigan transfer QB as well as some transfer lineman who could play right away. I think the talent level of the recruits they have is much better than what they had prior, they are just young and inexperienced. Eric Soza was a great player for them at QB and he will be hard to replace.

GrandGreen · August 28, 2015

Is that true Harry? Was North Texas picked to do nothing in 1913? What do you remember about them during that season?

I admit I speculated on that 1913 game, even I don't quite go back that far. However, I bet the writers had that season prediction wrong too.

Aldo · August 28, 2015

That said, I know Coker and the man can recruit. They brought in a Michigan transfer QB as well as some transfer lineman who could play right away. I think the talent level of the recruits they have is much better than what they had prior, they are just young and inexperienced.

Their 2015 class was great, but I don't think they'll reap the benefits right away, since the recruit cycle before that was so limited (due to the number of seniors).

I highly doubt we will ever see anything from that Michigan QB. Driskel will be the new transfer we'll all be dreading.

Edited August 28, 2015 by Aldo

MeanGreenTexan · August 28, 2015

Their 2015 class was great, but I don't think they'll reap the benefits right away, since the recruit cycle before that was so limited (due to the number of seniors).
I highly doubt we will ever see anything from that Michigan QB. Driskel will be the new transfer we'll all be dreading.

Agree. Sounds like he'll be depth for Bogenshutz.

FirefightnRick · August 28, 2015

This is how the state of Texas see's us. This is our image and our reputation and sadly, it affects the other departments negatively who are busting their asses and actually succeeding.

This kind of image has cost us untold amounts of money and support. One would think that it would make university officials sick to their stomachs and spawn demands for accountability? But it won't.

Rick

Edited August 28, 2015 by FirefightnRick

wardly · August 28, 2015

I personally have found that the Sagarin ratings are the most accurate. They have us 111th out of 192 programs,behind Marshall,La.Tech,Sam Houston,MTSU,and UTEP.

untjim1995 · August 28, 2015

The SMU game is vitally important for us because they are also so bad. But they have the excuse of a brand new coach, we don't.

I just look at the SMU game as the most important game of the season--not because they're our "rival", but because they should be a win for us on a schedule that doesn't openly offer you many of them. If you lose to them, you are looking at no more than 3 wins this season, with the very real probability of just one win. A 1-11 or 2-10 season, on the heels of a disastrous 4-8 year where you program really regressed, especially at QB, would just be a catastrophe. Apparently we have no choice but to run out the contract on Mac, who would still have three years remaining on his $650k annual deal. If you think recruiting is bad now and that the fanbase is sad considering our numbers, imagine what things will look like if the scenario above occurs. You won't have 5000 people at some of those FCS and late season CUSA games in the years to come if we fall apart this season and we are financially stuck.

Obviously, the exact opposite could happen--we improve this year and develop some depth, turn that into a better season next year, then have a winning season like 2013 again in 2017. That's very possible, too, which would hopefully bring out more fans and hopefully get our recruiting to move up.

VideoEagle · August 28, 2015

I personally have found that the Sagarin ratings are the most accurate. They have us 111th out of 192 programs,behind Marshall,La.Tech,Sam Houston,MTSU,and UTEP.

I've found Sagarin rankings far more accurate after the first two games of the season.